Pete Eccles Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) my logic is not "crooked logic". Wants is a buyer oriented forum. If an actual dealer responds to a buyer they should state what price they are looking to get and the condition. If someone is in the situation you are in where you will only sell if someone pays you enough money, that's fine, but I totally want to avoid people like that because they are usually unreasonable and looking for way more than the value. Most aren't even "sellers", they are collectors fishing for high prices. This is not directed at you, maybe you are very reasonable with your expectations, but in my experience that's not how it goes with most people. It's your prerogative to sell that way, and it's my choice to buy the way I want to. Nothing I'm saying is "crooked logic". The only thing that's makes no sense is saying that people should actually not be able to say "PM me with price and condition". Thanks. Bob you buy your way, I will sell my way, that's fair enough, but anyone with a want and not stating what they are willing to pay are narrowing down potential results, if I wasn't actively selling the record in the first place then there is only one loser - the buyer, Edited December 23, 2011 by Pete60
Dave Pinch Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 i put a want out the other day..and not one person has replied to it. so come on guys send me some pm`s on this ovide 45 and make me happy dave
Dave Pinch Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 answer your pms ffs thanks for your second chance offer bearsy.......sorted now on the athur willis
boba Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Bob you buy your way, I will sell my way, that's fair enough, but anyone with a want and not stating what they are willing to pay are narrowing down potential results, if I wasn't actively selling in the record in the first place then there is only one loser - the buyer, I guess I agree. I was just saying it doesn't make sense to ban either way. Also, saying that the buyers lose by only responding to sellers who state price and condition isn't any different than saying they lose by only responding to sellers that say "make me an offer". Another reason that the "make me an offer" situation can be much worse as if you are a collector who values something highly and you are interacting with a buyer who feels that that price is way out of line, you can create bad blood and tension between the two parties as the seller can be insulted and the buyer can think that the seller is unreasonable and doesn't really want to sell items. If the seller states price and condition, it's a much more professional transaction -- buyer can say yes or no or even make a counteroffer but you know from the start whether each party's expectations are so different that they should not proceed with negotiations
Dave Pinch Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 i dont think we all need to make a major issue of this its up to the individual how they buy and sell their records. but the idea is to say your sorted on the want and then bloody well buy the copy you say your going to have. then in sales dont pm a guy saying your gonna have a record unless you are serious about buying it and if somethin comes up and cant buy or dont want the record just let the seller know.....easy dave
Pete Eccles Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 I guess I agree. I was just saying it doesn't make sense to ban either way. Also, saying that the buyers lose by only responding to sellers who state price and condition isn't any different than saying they lose by only responding to sellers that say "make me an offer". Another reason that the "make me an offer" situation can be much worse as if you are a collector who values something highly and you are interacting with a buyer who feels that that price is way out of line, you can create bad blood and tension between the two parties as the seller can be insulted and the buyer can think that the seller is unreasonable and doesn't really want to sell items. If the seller states price and condition, it's a much more professional transaction -- buyer can say yes or no or even make a counteroffer but you know from the start whether each party's expectations are so different that they should not proceed with negotiations If you are a collector that values something highly, much higher than the buyer, so if the buyer states what he is willing to pay the said collector needn't get involved = no bad blood, it's all about the starting point, in sales - state how much you want for a record, in wants - the opposite, I didn't say ban anything, just not liking some things
boba Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 If you are a collector that values something highly, much higher than the buyer, so if the buyer states what he is willing to pay the said collector needn't get involved = no bad blood, it's all about the starting point, in sales - state how much you want for a record, in wants - the opposite, I didn't say ban anything, just not liking some things you're right, you didn't say to ban anything. Sorry to draw this out, it clearly wasn't so important of an issue to merit a long debate. have a good holiday. 1
Chalky Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 can't believe this is now into it's second page....I know it is an emotive subject and you are right manners cost nothing but think you will have to expect that not everyone share's the same moral values. You are going to have to either ignore it, report to Rod and if it is a persistent offender then he might have a word, or leave some negative feedback telling others what they do to upset you.
Mike Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 post closed by nev at 10:19am do ask again that if you are going to close/lock a thread that you started can you post on the thread that you are doing such as it can help avoid misunderstandings thanks mike
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