Bunderthollox Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Hi I've got Syl Johnson special agent 200 edition red smooth label black writing 20079 that Manships says is correct but a mate says isn't. Is there a deadwax stamp on these r any kind of matrix number? The centre is raised deadwax 10 mm thanks a lot 1
Kris Holmes Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 does your mate know there are two pressings of the special agent 45? 1
bri pinch Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 there are red and yellow originals, and the white demo of course, if the red one was ever pressed up it's a new one on me
Chalky Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 Are there two or three different takes of this? Know it has been discussed at length but I can't find the topic. One take is on both red and yellow issue.
Kris Holmes Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 2 different ones, can't remember offhand if they are different takes or just different mixes. would have to check. it annoys me how short this record is.
Gasher Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 yellow and red are different takes...............the intro is different on the yellow......... and the white demo is the same as the red issue. gasher 1
Chalky Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 yellow and red are different takes...............the intro is different on the yellow......... and the white demo is the same as the red issue. gasher pretty sure mate one take is on both red and yellow
Guest jkw Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 I always thought the demo was the one with the longer intro, and I'm sure my red issue has mix 1 wriiten on it somewhere....
Gasher Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) not it aint mate Ive had both and the demo..so Im pretty sure chalkster..unless there is a 3rd take Special Agent 200 - Do You Know What Love Is / The Love I Found In You - 1967 (red label) the white demo is also Special Agent 200 Special Agent 201 - Do You Know What Love Is / That Ain't Right - 1967 (Released again by same record company with different mix and yellow label - scarce) Edited November 27, 2011 by GASHER 1
Chalky Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 not it aint mate Ive had both and the demo..so Im pretty sure chalkster..unless there is a 3rd take right, you've made me get up out of me chair and move just been upstairs and got Manny's 5th Guide, hope it is ok to quote this. Demo with SP1 mix 200 Red with SP1 mix 200 Red with 200079-2 mix 201 Yellow with 200079-2 mix this has different flip as well (Things Ain't Right). So there is a different mix on both red and yellow issue and one mix released on red and yellow. But to confuse matters more I've seen a scan of yellow issue with SP1 mix on it. But I am pretty sure when discussing this on Soul Talk some years ago it was said there was three different takes/intros. 1
Gasher Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 i hate you chalky your always right smart arse hahaha ...didnt know bout the 200 Red with 200079-2 mix would like to see a scan as proof hahaha..i dont think it exists.. least it got you off your arse for some exercise.. well done mate gasher
Chalky Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 i hate you chalky your always right smart arse hahaha ...didnt know bout the 200 Red with 200079-2 mix would like to see a scan as proof hahaha..i dont think it exists.. least it got you off your arse for some exercise.. well done mate gasher I need a sit down now mate, I'm knackered. I remember discussing this some time ago both on Soul talk and pretty sure on here. Still looking for the other scans, the yellow on would seem to be the rarest, demo then red if popsike is anything to go by. 1
Bunderthollox Posted November 27, 2011 Author Posted November 27, 2011 Hi Lads thanks for the great info on this its always reassuring to know-no my mate said Manships is wrong but I think there are two red label editions. The scan in the middle looks true to mine.
Bunderthollox Posted November 27, 2011 Author Posted November 27, 2011 My mate maybe does know or not lol. It was me that exposed his John and the Wierdest as a brown vinyl copy (which he then sold to me in disgust!)
Gasher Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 Mine is a 2.01 btw. ??? ARE YOU ON ABOUT RELEASE NUMBER OR WTF IS A 2.01?? HAHA AND IF YOU ARE ON ABOOT THE MIX..IS YOURS A .....201..YELLOW SP1 OR 200079 -2 MIX??
Scotters Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 Don't think I've heard this before so just had a listen. I like it. Thanks.
Bunderthollox Posted March 23, 2012 Author Posted March 23, 2012 does your mate know there are two pressings of the special agent 45? He probably doesnt. But then again he didnt know about the Kenny Gamble Black black on blue either or his repro john and the Wierdest.
Garethx Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 I could be completely wrong on this but isn't it only the deadwax which tells the different mixes apart visually, not the labels? The labels for each mix of "DYKWLI" state SP-1 and a master number 200079 whether it's 200 or 201. Don't think there is a copy with "200079-2" on the label, whether it be the red, yellow or white demo. I had a red label copy with the 'inferior' mix. For what it's worth I think this is the rarest variant but the version of "Do You Know What Love Is" is nowhere near as good and it isn't just the different intro, it's the entire rhythm track which has had extra layers of percussion (handclaps and tambourine) added. It plods along where the other one glides. The vocal take sounds identical on both.
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