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The embedding of youtube clips within the topic is a massive pain. Can people not just provide an external link?

Also quoting a post with an embedded clip and leaving in the clip really slows the pages down.

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The embedding of youtube clips within the topic is a massive pain. Can people not just provide an external link?

Also quoting a post with an embedded clip and leaving in the clip really slows the pages down.

The message board adds the youtube tags to any youtube video and there's no way to remove them, even if you edit your post. I asked about this and Mike suggested putting a question mark at the end of the link which somehow prevents the youtube tag.

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OK I got another really good one. Although people here will probably totally disagree. The mad lads "did my baby call" is killer, a million types better than the professionals and steve mancha.

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OK I got another really good one. Although people here will probably totally disagree. The mad lads "did my baby call" is killer, a million types better than the professionals and steve mancha.

I love the Mad Lads version, the flute is an excellent touch

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I love the Mad Lads version, the flute is an excellent touch

yeah, it's more psychedelic, the harmony is better, and in my opinion john gary williams is a better lead

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Latimore's "Rain From The Sky" is a much better record than Adam Wade's original, even though I like that too in some respects.

Bobby Womack's "Can't Take it Like a Man" is far better than Gerri Grainger's.

Coke Escovedo's "I Wouldn't Change A Thing" easily beats either Johnny Bristol or Diana Ross.

Close one but Esther Phillips' "Home Is Where The Hatred Is" shades Gil Scott Heron's original.

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Platters wasn't even released until the mid 80's so I'd guess Johnny Hampton's came first.

As for those who think the Four Season's version of I'm Gonna Change Is Better than The Velours...

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Velours much better but thanks for uploading De-to. Sounded (to me), like a Beach Boys production :wicked:

Original

Better version (shot down in flames again??)

So much better lol

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This is sort of off topic. I don't really listen to rock music but one of my favorite rock LPs of all time is the first Gandalf LP on Capitol. Almost every song is a cover, but they're all amazing. One of the last rock records I still listen to.

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This is sort of off topic. I don't really listen to rock music but one of my favorite rock LPs of all time is the first Gandalf LP on Capitol. Almost every song is a cover, but they're all amazing. One of the last rock records I still listen to.

And you had a go at me for "Supernatural"!!!!!!

What's next? You dress up as an Orc at the weekends in the Lord of the Rings Reenactment Society?

ROD


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And you had a go at me for "Supernatural"!!!!!!

What's next? You dress up as an Orc at the weekends in the Lord of the Rings Reenactment Society?

ROD

whatever, that album is good. This one is a tim hardin cover:

and I don't do lord of the rings LARPing, only vampire the masquerade

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As for those who think the Four Season's version of I'm Gonna Change Is Better than The Velours...

Wow. I'm amazed you said that Pete. I think the Four Season's version wins hands down. A much, much better production than the Velours and the right speed!

Ian D :D

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Sorry Tony but the Moody Blues was a typical UK bland, note for note attempt on quality Soul stuff regularly being issued by UK artists at the time, hoping very few people would get to hear the original. And they were right, few ever did because of the stranglehold 'Tin Pan Alley' had on the radio playlists at the time. It was only possible to hear obscure soul on the pirate stations, if you could receive them, which was very difficult where I lived, in the welsh mountains. Nevertheless, I bought Bessie Banks 'blind' and it oozed soul then and still does, whereas The M.B. version is a pleasant oldies radio filler. Georgie Fame did at least 'know' his Soul and was very good live ( I saw him in the Tamla Motown tour of 65) but didn't usually hit it on vinyl for me, EXCEPT for his version of Last Night (the flip of 'Sitting') which I should have put on my list!

The Moody Blues take the fairly poor original and turn it into a masterpiece. Note for note copy, you're having a laugh surely. Bessie Bank's version sounds like an unfinished demo.

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Wow. I'm amazed you said that Pete. I think the Four Season's version wins hands down. A much, much better production than the Velours and the right speed!

Ian D :D

It's way too fast. I don't not like it, it's just not as good.

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The Moody Blues take the fairly poor original and turn it into a masterpiece. Note for note copy, you're having a laugh surely. Bessie Bank's version sounds like an unfinished demo.

That's precisely why I prefer the Bessie Banks Pete. It's raw and spontaneous which is often a key element of many great soul tracks, no multiple retakes and 'cleaning' up that squeezed out any rawness from most of the UK 60s releases. 'No ad libs, screams, wrong notes, mixed up vocals etc in UK pop/attempts at soul. A great U.S example of spontaneity is Brook Benton & Dinah Washington 2 top stars who completely messed up Rockin' Good Way at one point but made it even better by leaving it in the final issue! I can think of others but no similar U.K examples, but no doubt you will!

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That's precisely why I prefer the Bessie Banks Pete. It's raw and spontaneous which is often a key element of many great soul tracks, no multiple retakes and 'cleaning' up that squeezed out any rawness from most of the UK 60s releases. 'No ad libs, screams, wrong notes, mixed up vocals etc in UK pop/attempts at soul. A great U.S example of spontaneity is Brook Benton & Dinah Washington 2 top stars who completely messed up Rockin' Good Way at one point but made it even better by leaving it in the final issue! I can think of others but no similar U.K examples, but no doubt you will!

Nah, it may be 2 years on but the debate we had Bessie Banks + Billy Stewart vs Moody Blues + Georgie Fame was one of the most heated I've ever known on here, so I think I'd best stay out of this one now. Always ends in tears. :lol:

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