Jonathan Capree Gonna Build Me A Mountain Ox Bow

[Pete S]

Thanks for that. It's an identical tune to something else. It's awfulness knows no bounds. What a weak, watery, emotionless effort. Joe 90 beats that into a cocked hat, that's how bad it is and I don't need 'educating' to know that this is utter sh*te, thanks very much.

[Cobbles]

pete, can you or others think of the other version.....for a comparison of vocals maybe for RnB lovers......as someone said earlier the backing track is better than JC's vocals....

franc

[Pete S]

pete, can you or others think of the other version.....for a comparison of vocals maybe for RnB lovers......as someone said earlier the backing track is better than JC's vocals....

franc

Doesn't it sound like "Work Song"? I think it's that..

[Denbo]

Doesn't it sound like "Work Song"? I think it's that..

WORK SONG? Who's or which version?

[Shinehead]

Doesn't it sound like "Work Song"? I think it's that..

Yes thats what it reminds me of .

[Cobbles]

wrong quote ...sorry

Edited November 14, 2011 by cobbles

[Cobbles]

WORK SONG? Who's or which version?

a jazz lounge bar in house band version!!!!

sorry keep having a listen to it and it doesn't get any better....

i'm gonna stop now though!!!

franc

[Mister Fish]

Thanks for that. It's an identical tune to something else. It's awfulness knows no bounds. What a weak, watery, emotionless effort. Joe 90 beats that into a cocked hat, that's how bad it is and I don't need 'educating' to know that this is utter sh*te, thanks very much.

I think you're being too kind Pete..

Edited November 14, 2011 by Mister Fish

[Guest sharmo 1]

It reminds me of a cross between work song and the snake I think this is gonna turn up in quantitee I've got a funny feeling about that record I don't think it's rare . I'm positive I've seen that a few times in the netherlands and Belgium.Hope I'm wrong for the person that's just spude up for it.Regards Simon.

[Sebastian]

For some strange reason I quite like the other Jonathan Capree 45 as well. It's very quirky though and would probably rub even more people the wrong way than "Gonna Build..." does!

[Cobbles]

For some strange reason I quite like the other Jonathan Capree 45 as well. It's very quirky though and would probably rub even more people the wrong way than "Gonna Build..." does!

give uzz a kish...i mean clip !!!!....we like a gud debase on ere!!!..

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Edited November 14, 2011 by cobbles

[Guest]

One in my Box Great Record come and here for yourself at OUT OF THE BLUE 26th Nov at the Castle Oldham Street Manchester :wave: :wave:

[Realpeoplesmusic]

Bloody Hell Geoff, Jimmy Phillips and Jonathan Capree in the space of a month...have you won the lottery?

Great tune!!!

Callum

[Guest]

and a nice copy of Otis Lee - Hard Row to Hoe

[Corbett80]

Would i be right in saying that the split on who does and doesn't like this 45 is that it's mostly mod club regs who really like it? - and that would follow at least in my experience of people who are into it. I can see why it has appeal in terms of the backing and structure of the record in those terms. Not totally convinced by the big ending but if it has an actual club night following then it's done a hell of a lot better than a whole bunch of records I wish had the same effect, so good on it.

For some reason it reminds me of Whirlpool by Marty Thomson.......

Edited November 15, 2011 by corbett80

[Chalky]

It's a terrible record IMO, vocally and lyrically very poor. Might be rare but another case of Emperors New Clothes. The Sacred Four mentioned is just as bad, it's not the sort of music I got into this scene for, and I do got to decent venues (IMO) and I don't need educating either. Grey Imprint p*sses all over the pair of them, dunno how you can compare them though to be honest.

If Joel is right in is assumption that it is the mod scene that prefers it then good let them keep it. Luckily it is that rare won't be hearing it too often!!!

And Joel, Marty Thompson a decent track, I can't hear JC in it though.

[Pete S]

Is that Whirpool meant to be a comedy record? Sounds like Vic Reeves doing the Pub Singer. That's even worse than the JC record.

[Denbo]

and a nice copy of Otis Lee - Hard Row to Hoe

Yes, noticed that too. Great records Geoff.

[Rbman]

It's a terrible record IMO, vocally and lyrically very poor. Might be rare but another case of Emperors New Clothes. The Sacred Four mentioned is just as bad, it's not the sort of music I got into this scene for, and I do got to decent venues (IMO) and I don't need educating either. Grey Imprint p*sses all over the pair of them, dunno how you can compare them though to be honest.

If Joel is right in is assumption that it is the mod scene that prefers it then good let them keep it. Luckily it is that rare won't be hearing it too often!!!

And Joel, Marty Thompson a decent track, I can't hear JC in it though.

Wow...some opinion.....when i first heard it out - Paul Sadot at Lifeline at the Fox- I thought that's very interesting although with somewhat weak vocals but fresh and very danceable.....but hey...if you think its crap then it must be!

Edited November 16, 2011 by Rbman

[Pete S]

Wow...some opinion.....when i first heard it out - Paul Sadot at Lifeline at the Fox- I thought that's very interesting although with somewhat weak vocals but fresh and very danceable.....but hey...if you think its crap then it must be!

It IS crap but not as crap as that Whirlpool record, I think that might be just the worst 'northern soul' record I've ever heard, I had nightmares about it last night, and amazed that someone with decent taste like Chlaky thinks it's half decent

If you played that Jonathan Capree record 30 years ago you'd have been laughed at and rightly so.

[Corbett80]

I put the Marty Thompson one up as a laugh!

To be fair though Pete I have no reason to defend JC as i don;t rate it personally but we aren't 30 years ago, we're now so can't see how thats relevant?

J

Edited November 16, 2011 by corbett80

[Mace]

I put the Marty Thompson one up as a laugh! Truly awful

You wanna be careful you don't crunch your gears by knocking into reverse so fast....

[Corbett80]

Why? i never suggested I liked the marty thompson one did I? Would of thought it was obvious it was a jibe at the other 45 but maybe not.....

Edited November 16, 2011 by corbett80

[Mace]

Why? i never suggested I liked the marty thompson one did I?!

I didn't say you did....did I ?

It's a reference to back peddling from a situation that you feel uncomfortable about.

[Corbett80]

Which is what?

[Mace]

Presuming that people will think you like the Marty Thompson track because you posted it up.

[Corbett80]

Well it sounded to me like Pete did and quite frankly i'd rather be associated with a Spandau Ballett record then either of the two mentioned here....so in that respect f*ck yes peddaling like mental.

[Guest sam]

I can see how people like and dislike this track,at the right night with the right crowd and DJ it goes down a storm.

What pisses me sigh is all this "You don't know who you're talking to"

Is everyone that uptight?

With regards to Callum hes a great Dj and entitiled to his opinion and with Tomasso again a great DJ whoi has this tune and obviously enjoys playing it so why lay into them when theyre just expressing an opinion on something they likw but you don't?

World would be a dull place if we all liked the same things

[Corbett80]

To be fair its the luck of the draw isn't it? When people are applauding a record you like / have everyone's happy as larry. It's only a few gobby people's (me included) opinion anyway. I'd rather have a few c*nt a record off on here and it go down as well as this apparently does in club nights then vice versa - and god knows i've had to deal with the latter enough times

[Chalky]

It IS crap but not as crap as that Whirlpool record, I think that might be just the worst 'northern soul' record I've ever heard, I had nightmares about it last night, and amazed that someone with decent taste like Chlaky thinks it's half decent

If you played that Jonathan Capree record 30 years ago you'd have been laughed at and rightly so.

Got to agree in retrospect Pete having refreshed the grey matter and having another listen....not that great is it, still better than the JC though although I care for hearing neither out.

[Chalky]

Wow...some opinion.....when i first heard it out - Paul Sadot at Lifeline at the Fox- I thought that's very interesting although with somewhat weak vocals but fresh and very danceable.....but hey...if you think its crap then it must be!

No Martin I think it is crap, doesn't mean anyone else has to be of the same opinion, music is all about opinions isn't it (and debate) everyone has one. If some like the record, then good for them. To me it is bland and as I said weak both vocally and lyrically. But if I had to hear records like this for a large part of the night then I think I would pack it all in.

Pete is right, at one time of the day you would have been laughed at or something like. Records like this, the Tornadoes, Sacred Four just highlight the lack of new quality 60's soul for most DJ's, there's stacks of cheap soul music that is ignored that is far better than this.

As has been said many times, each to their own, it would be boring if we all liked the same music and we would have bugger all to argue about.

[Corbett80]

I suppose the lure of a packed dancefloor to a record like this though is what drives it's price (notwithstanding rarity). It obviously has something that appeals or it would be clearing floors rather than creating 'whistling and rounds of applause.'

[Rbman]

No Martin I think it is crap, doesn't mean anyone else has to be of the same opinion, music is all about opinions isn't it (and debate) everyone has one. If some like the record, then good for them. To me it is bland and as I said weak both vocally and lyrically. But if I had to hear records like this for a large part of the night then I think I would pack it all in.

Pete is right, at one time of the day you would have been laughed at or something like. Records like this, the Tornadoes, Sacred Four just highlight the lack of new quality 60's soul for most DJ's, there's stacks of cheap soul music that is ignored that is far better than this.

As has been said many times, each to their own, it would be boring if we all liked the same music and we would have bugger all to argue about.

As a matter of interest Chalky do you like the Velvets & Louis "Estelle Parker".....

[Guest sharmo 1]

Charlie Griffin played the whirlpool at six hills nighter filled the floor and got a round of aplause , I'm sure Keb used to play it as well to a full floor regards S.

[Chalky]

As a matter of interest Chalky do you like the Velvets & Louis "Estelle Parker".....

not particularly

[Cobbles]

Charlie Griffin played the whirlpool at six hills nighter filled the floor and got a round of aplause , I'm sure Keb used to play it as well to a full floor regards S.

it was a stafford record for keb .......it's on (sir ben)..... so does have some sentimental value as one of those big dramatic tunes that got spun...like dave blocker " just like a ship"

but i now look back with slight embarassment as having liked them although right for the time

i can see that jC track being right for the mod scene as that's slightly more diverse and not just soul music.

wonder if they'll look back in 20yrs time and cringe at the thought of it ?????

franc

[Cobbles]

i'll give JC some credit it's only just better than this we used to dance to.....

this is actually by the muppets !!!!!!!!

[Russ Vickers]

As a matter of interest Chalky do you like the Velvets & Louis "Estelle Parker".....

I kinda quite like Estelle Parker, not keen on JC tho, altho might sound better thru a big system.

Russ

[Md Records]

I was offered the Jonathan Capree as an "unknown" about 10/12 years ago, for £200 but didn't think it was strong enough to warrant that price tag. I was offered that copy a couple of years later for £400, played it and still didn't think it was strong enough (though did buy Jimmy Moore as an "unknown" off the guy for £40). To me, it sounds o.k. and I'm sure it's a pretty good "dancer" loud, but it doesn't do a lot for me, and I'd probably buy it, if it were £100.

Also, I remember going in an old record store in Indianapolis a few years ago, and there were racks of "chart" records with labelled dividers, Like Beatles, Michael jackson, Supremes etc - and there was a section for "Marty Thompson - Whirlpool" with about 6 copies - totally incongruous to the rest of the stock!!!

Des Parker

[Benji]

It IS crap but not as crap as that Whirlpool record, I think that might be just the worst 'northern soul' record I've ever heard, I had nightmares about it last night, and amazed that someone with decent taste like Chlaky thinks it's half decent

15/20 years ago I hammered Whirlpool and put it on lots of tapes for other collectors. I'm truly ashamed now

[Guest sharmo 1]

You know why everyone's off Wirlpool is because they've seen a photo of him .Regards Simon.

[Pete S]

You know why everyone's off Wirlpool is because they've seen a photo of him .Regards Simon.

That's right, he looks naff and his record is actually brilliant. If only I hadn't seen that photograph.

[Stevie T]

top record , and cant wait to be moving my feet to it this weekend , Thats if there is any space left on the floor when the bad boy is being spun

[Pete S]

i'll give JC some credit it's only just better than this we used to dance to.....

this is actually by the muppets !!!!!!!!

At least that records got some drive behind it...pretty bloomin' good

[Stevie T]

One in my Box Great Record come and here for yourself at OUT OF THE BLUE 26th Nov at the Castle Oldham Street Manchester :wave: :wave:

fantastic , brilliant , count me in

[Guest sharmo 1]

At least that records got some drive behind it...pretty bloomin' good

Yes Pete and they look better on the picture !!

[Philt]

it was a stafford record for keb .......it's on (sir ben)..... so does have some sentimental value as one of those big dramatic tunes that got spun...like dave blocker " just like a ship"

but i now look back with slight embarassment as having liked them although right for the time

i can see that jC track being right for the mod scene as that's slightly more diverse and not just soul music.

wonder if they'll look back in 20yrs time and cringe at the thought of it ?????

franc

Eyup Franco, hope you're well mate, been a while.

Funnily enough was having that very 'conversation' with a small person from round here maybe a couple of months ago; you know the script, been out, wee small hours, [i was] talking tosh and the subject got around to taste and records inevitably.

I was singing, even shouting LOL, the praises of Guy in particular and some of the stuff from that era whilst, at the same time - much to my embarassment in the very cold light of day - describing things like E Laskey on Thelma as rather tired and boring

Guess you could say I was maybe guilty of donning the old rose-tinteds when it came to the quality of some of the stuff that was getting an airing round that time. Some of the greatest records ever played in the mix of course but I did eventually have to admit that a good number of those 'dramatic' - great descriptor that - tunes from that mid-late 80s period simply don't cut it in the final analysis, in terms of their real quality.

As my wee friend kindly pointed out, they were absolutely of their time and that time but they'd maybe not be first out of your box these days; the odd one even brings on the cringe you mentioned too

I've still got loads of em and they're largely obselete in terms of playability and, in many cases, have no tangible market value it seems. (I'm thinking of things like Bobby Mac on Vended, Dave Blocker, Don and Juan ...). Still love em all dearly in their own way but more about fantastic memories than anything else.

Unsurprisingly, however, as the scene has diversified, some might say fragmented, still further, you do start to hear things getting spins again and it's great when they receive a favourable response. One of the things that made that time so exciting for me as a yoof was the newness and difference of the stuff I was hearing when I travelled further afield than the oldies bashes my peers generally frequented. Suppose some would call it progressive and others might curl a lip at it; as I say, of it's time and it was a bloody great time but if you want to talk about their respective and individual merit as soul records that's probably a different story.

Still, takes all sorts and good luck to anyone who is trying to keep things fresh. I do feel like a real old fart though on occasion these days, you must feel like you've been dug up mate

atb

Phil

[Guest]

Eyup Franco, hope you're well mate, been a while.

Funnily enough was having that very 'conversation' with a small person from round here maybe a couple of months ago; you know the script, been out, wee small hours, [i was] talking tosh and the subject got around to taste and records inevitably.

I was singing, even shouting LOL, the praises of Guy in particular and some of the stuff from that era whilst, at the same time - much to my embarassment in the very cold light of day - describing things like E Laskey on Thelma as rather tired and boring

Guess you could say I was maybe guilty of donning the old rose-tinteds when it came to the quality of some of the stuff that was getting an airing round that time. Some of the greatest records ever played in the mix of course but I did eventually have to admit that a good number of those 'dramatic' - great descriptor that - tunes from that mid-late 80s period simply don't cut it in the final analysis, in terms of their real quality.

As my wee friend kindly pointed out, they were absolutely of their time and that time but they'd maybe not be first out of your box these days; the odd one even brings on the cringe you mentioned too

I've still got loads of em and they're largely obselete in terms of playability and, in many cases, have no tangible market value it seems. (I'm thinking of things like Bobby Mac on Vended, Dave Blocker, Don and Juan ...). Still love em all dearly in their own way but more about fantastic memories than anything else.

Unsurprisingly, however, as the scene has diversified, some might say fragmented, still further, you do start to hear things getting spins again and it's great when they receive a favourable response. One of the things that made that time so exciting for me as a yoof was the newness and difference of the stuff I was hearing when I travelled further afield than the oldies bashes my peers generally frequented. Suppose some would call it progressive and others might curl a lip at it; as I say, of it's time and it was a bloody great time but if you want to talk about their respective and individual merit as soul records that's probably a different story.

Still, takes all sorts and good luck to anyone who is trying to keep things fresh. I do feel like a real old fart though on occasion these days, you must feel like you've been dug up mate

atb

Phil

Phil,

I think a lot of us on here have got that just dug up feeling especially after a heavy night or a nighter.

But I'm with you on the good luck to anyone who is trying to keep things fresh, as you have so refreshing put it, it's different era's & generations that have helped evolve the scene so let the new generation have there time as they won't be new forever.

I'm sure this happens on the mass music markets to cause I never liked wot me mam & dad liked musically!! Oh that must have been their era?