The Scene

[Kev John]

As i'm aware the soul scene as become very splintered

there is not 1 venue where we can't get it together and have good time tonight to listen,dance & socialise.

To Funky northern,RnB northern uptempo Xover,rare northern and not forgetting good upbeat modern krap including soulful house

Not the tailor mades like Tribute.tribute to betty &smile

As i'm in my early 5ts i went to the late wigan 79/80 and funk was played along side northern anthems of the time. I also djd at the Keele allnighter modern room the last 3yrs before it finished

There are a lot of soulies out who want to go out but won't because there is to many oldies & same old same olds being played

I wish that promoters to be little bid more adventurous and give a more progessive dj a chance at there venues

It's soul music i love you love it let's get the scene Buzziing again with new tunes.?

Were in the 2nd decade of the 21st century come let's have good time don't let it Die.

Keepin the Faith

moanin kev

[Soulman]

As i'm aware the soul scene as become very splintered

there is not 1 venue where we can't get it together and have good time tonight to listen,dance & socialise.

To Funky northern,RnB northern uptempo Xover,rare northern and not forgetting good upbeat modern krap including soulful house

Not the tailor mades like Tribute.tribute to betty &smile

As i'm in my early 5ts i went to the late wigan 79/80 and funk was played along side northern anthems of the time. I also djd at the Keele allnighter modern room the last 3yrs before it finished

There are a lot of soulies out who want to go out but won't because there is to many oldies & same old same olds being played

I wish that promoters to be little bid more adventurous and give a more progessive dj a chance at there venues

It's soul music i love you love it let's get the scene Buzziing again with new tunes.?

Were in the 2nd decade of the 21st century come let's have good time don't let it Die.

Keepin the Faith

moanin kev

Always been an advocate of everything under one roof although I must say, I'm jaded at the moment and can't be arsed with the retro side of things. I'm sure if it moved on, featured all aspects... northern, ballads, modern, soulful house and indeed the "new" funk side of things it would make it more interesting for everyone apart from those set in their ways. Love it all and that's the way it should be, after all, it's all soulful whether it's to your taste per individual record or not.

Steve

[Guest Matt Male]

Welcome, I think you'll fit right in, although there are already a few moanin Kev's on here already. So you might have to change your name.

How about miserable Kev?

As for the places that play progressive and adventurous sounds I think there are plenty of places around like that. I think it's never been more varied with something for everyone across the country.

Edited October 29, 2011 by Matt Male

[Nickg]

As i'm aware the soul scene as become very splintered

there is not 1 venue where we can't get it together and have good time tonight to listen,dance & socialise.

To Funky northern,RnB northern uptempo Xover,rare northern and not forgetting good upbeat modern krap including soulful house

Not the tailor mades like Tribute.tribute to betty &smile

As i'm in my early 5ts i went to the late wigan 79/80 and funk was played along side northern anthems of the time. I also djd at the Keele allnighter modern room the last 3yrs before it finished

There are a lot of soulies out who want to go out but won't because there is to many oldies & same old same olds being played

I wish that promoters to be little bid more adventurous and give a more progessive dj a chance at there venues

It's soul music i love you love it let's get the scene Buzziing again with new tunes.?

Were in the 2nd decade of the 21st century come let's have good time don't let it Die.

Keepin the Faith

moanin kev

Hi Kev,

Welcome to Soul Source, any chance of writing a few words to introduce yourself:

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forum/57-members-shouts-and-intros/

thanks

Nick

[Kev John]

hi nick

been back on soul scene for past 10yrs after 22yrs break.

started collecting vinyl records in1973

first record bought Harold Melvin Satisfaction Guaranteed uk pir

first US Crown Heights Affair was Dancin/Love me a brilliant 7ts dancer on flip 1976

i visit soul clubs in staffordshire & cheshire

but i travelled all over north west england ,midlands

I did 1st hour spots & drove for Keith Minshull for 4yrs

i

[Julie Moore]

Welcome, I think you'll fit right in, although there are already a few moanin Kev's on here already. So you might have to change your name.

How about miserable Kev?

As for the places that play progressive and adventurous sounds I think there are plenty of places around like that. I think it's never been more varied with something for everyone across the country.

Only mho Matt but i can`t find a lot of atb do`s that are really atb 100%

Im in the East midlands Newark to be exact.............you got Nottingham which no offence to anyone but the baggies bigrade ...........a few atb dotted around but not truly atb then you got a bit of modern around Mansfield & Newark but all under 1 roof

[Alan Bonthrone1]

Only mho Matt but i can`t find a lot of atb do`s that are really atb 100%

Im in the East midlands Newark to be exact.............you got Nottingham which no offence to anyone but the baggies bigrade ...........a few atb dotted around but not truly atb then you got a bit of modern around Mansfield & Newark but all under 1 roof

What,s atb.please . Pardon my ignorance.

[Julie Moore]

Sorry .....Across The Board e.g all kinds of Soul music under 1 roof

Regards

Julie

Edited October 29, 2011 by Julie Moore

[Alan Bonthrone1]

Sorry .....Across The Board e.g all kinds of Soul music under 1 roof

Regards

Julie

[Alan Bonthrone1]

Thank,s For That. All The Best, Alan

[Kev John]

hi matt

i'm not miserable so there's gonna be no name change sorry

when i'm with the right crowd i.m a happy man

i go to quality soul nights & nighters

the best 1 was a couple of months ago woz Grumpy's soul night @ runcorn cheshire

music & atmosphere woz brilliant till the last toooooon

it was packed to the rafters nearly 300 in & no Hand baggers in Happy days

kev

Edited October 29, 2011 by moanin kev

[Guest Matt Male]

Only mho Matt but i can`t find a lot of atb do`s that are really atb 100%

Im in the East midlands Newark to be exact.............you got Nottingham which no offence to anyone but the baggies bigrade ...........a few atb dotted around but not truly atb then you got a bit of modern around Mansfield & Newark but all under 1 roof

I didn't really mean ATB because that usually just means across the board oldies to me thesedays. I'm not too bothered about hearing every genre under the same roof, i'd rather they were either new to my ears or rarely played out.

Kev, welcome to soul source.

Edited October 29, 2011 by Matt Male

[Kev John]

hi matt

that's we all want but in the main rooms not in little pokey rooms with no atmosphere & no punters in

kev

[Julie Moore]

I didn't really mean ATB because that usually just means across the board oldies to me thesedays. I'm not too bothered about hearing every genre under the same roof, i'd rather they were either new to my ears or rarely played out.

Kev, welcome to soul source.

Me too, to a certain extent

Edited October 29, 2011 by Julie Moore

[Pete Eccles]

hi matt

that's we all want but in the main rooms not in little pokey rooms with no atmosphere & no punters in

kev

Kev, if what you wished for filled main rooms would it not follow that that would be the order of the day?

Not saying what should or shouldn't be the policy of any particular night, as Matt has pointed out you can find whatever you want if you look for it, but if you want a night to play to your tastes instead of what works that venue then ya gonna be moanin indefinitely I reckon,

Edited October 30, 2011 by Pete60

[Dazdakin]

The "scene" as it is at the moment is doing just about ok without the need for a massive rethink on music policy...especially for an "ATB" policy as it does not and would not work UNLESS your talking an atb policy of northern soul i.e. Oldies/Rarer Under played/New 6T's discoveries (if they are any good and not just new and rare as this does not mean that they are any good) with a mix of R&B and some of the Funk stuff that the likes of Mick "H" can spin.

All of the above can and have in years past lived in the same room, but it has to be what we all would deem to be "northern" otherwise you can shove it!!

[Jez Jones]

Good 'Moaning' Kev

[Guest sharmo 1]

very strange set up this northern soul thing ,Loughboro' last night great night two rooms small room R-N-B , early soul reggae and ska some fantastic records played in that room last night and that room will develop over the next year or so.Main room was last night oldies and nighter spins , BUT 4 danced to Gwen Owens 4 Danced to the Deadbeats 6 to Robbie Lawson 5 to the Profesionals ect ect so what do people want ? a girl said to me at the bar she prefered real oldies and not "this new stuff " refering to records like I just mentioned .This is why I prefer the small alternative rooms and Modern nights regards Simon.

[Guest]

Only mho Matt but i can`t find a lot of atb do`s that are really atb 100%

Im in the East midlands Newark to be exact.............you got Nottingham which no offence to anyone but the baggies bigrade ...........a few atb dotted around but not truly atb then you got a bit of modern around Mansfield & Newark but all under 1 roof

sorry julie but have to dissagree slightly......pilsley is a totally across the board night...in fact barry insists his residents play acroos the board and his guests usually do the same....most across the board events up your way have mainly oldies djs with maybe a guest spinner that can throw a few motown,rnb or modern tunes in...which imvho isnt across the board

ive looked at playlists from many events on here claiming to be ATB but the truth is they just aint

as is always the case these are MY views only

moldie x

[KevH]

sorry julie but have to dissagree slightly......pilsley is a totally across the board night...in fact barry insists his residents play acroos the board and his guests usually do the same....most across the board events up your way have mainly oldies djs with maybe a guest spinner that can throw a few motown,rnb or modern tunes in...which imvho isnt across the board

ive looked at playlists from many events on here claiming to be ATB but the truth is they just aint

as is always the case these are MY views only

moldie x

Hi ,could you clarify ATB please.Does it mean a total mix of genres and era's,regardless of any history attached to the "scene".?

Or,across a particular genre..ie: r'n'b from 50's to late 60's,different tempo's etc.?

Kev.(representing the positive Kev's).

Edited October 30, 2011 by KevH

[Guest]

Hi ,could you clarify ATB please.Does it mean a total mix of genres and era's,regardless of any history attached to the "scene".?

Or,across a particular genre..ie: r'n'b from 50's to late 60's,different tempo's etc.?

Kev.(representing the positive Kev's).

hi positive kev

for me the term atb means...6ts,7ts,modern,motown,rare and underplayed,crossover plus maybe latin and funky type stuff

this may not be everybodys view but it is mine

atb....down but not out moldie...well not yet anyway

[KevH]

hi positive kev

for me the term atb means...6ts,7ts,modern,motown,rare and underplayed,crossover plus maybe latin and funky type stuff

this may not be everybodys view but it is mine

atb....down but not out moldie...well not yet anyway

Not been to bed yet Moldie,so bear with me.Surely if a dj tries too hard to cram in too many genres as you describe all in one set,it can get a bit disjointed for the dancefloor?

[Jnixon]

Not been to bed yet Moldie,so bear with me.Surely if a dj tries too hard to cram in too many genres as you describe all in one set,it can get a bit disjointed for the dancefloor?

depends how long the sets are id say. seems like most of your venues are hung up with hour slots.

give a decent dj a few hours straight to play about and assuming the audience are open minded enough (40 or under or not British as an example ) its a fairly exciting and interesting outcome.

[Guest]

As i'm aware the soul scene as become very splintered

there is not 1 venue where we can't get it together and have good time tonight to listen,dance & socialise.

To Funky northern,RnB northern uptempo Xover,rare northern and not forgetting good upbeat modern krap including soulful house

Not the tailor mades like Tribute.tribute to betty &smile

As i'm in my early 5ts i went to the late wigan 79/80 and funk was played along side northern anthems of the time. I also djd at the Keele allnighter modern room the last 3yrs before it finished

There are a lot of soulies out who want to go out but won't because there is to many oldies & same old same olds being played

I wish that promoters to be little bid more adventurous and give a more progessive dj a chance at there venues

It's soul music i love you love it let's get the scene Buzziing again with new tunes.?

Were in the 2nd decade of the 21st century come let's have good time don't let it Die.

Keepin the Faith

moanin kev

I find the highlighted element of your post rather odd. There are plenty of progressive nights/nighters to choose from. I only attend progressive events and my diary's always full.

Which progressive DJ do you want a chance to be given to?

[Chalky]

hi positive kev

for me the term atb means...6ts,7ts,modern,motown,rare and underplayed,crossover plus maybe latin and funky type stuff

this may not be everybodys view but it is mine

atb....down but not out moldie...well not yet anyway

Across The Board means from the 60's to present day whatever genre and not many venues cater for that...if any, that is a fact. Most that advertise ATB (especially soul nights) are oldies with a bit of Angie Stone or records that sound Northern thrown in and stray little from the well trodden path.

[Guest]

Across The Board means from the 60's to present day whatever genre and not many venues cater for that...if any, that is a fact. Most that advertise ATB (especially soul nights) are oldies with a bit of Angie Stone or records that sound Northern thrown in and stray little from the well trodden path.

so whats the difference between your view and mine then..have i not said the same as you just worded it differently?

moldie

[Guest]

Not been to bed yet Moldie,so bear with me.Surely if a dj tries too hard to cram in too many genres as you describe all in one set,it can get a bit disjointed for the dancefloor?

hi kev

if your at the right venue with the right ppl the floor wont empty...a good dj can play a bit of everything without the dancefloor emptying

atb moldie

[Chalky]

depends how long the sets are id say. seems like most of your venues are hung up with hour slots.

give a decent dj a few hours straight to play about and assuming the audience are open minded enough (40 or under or not British as an example ) its a fairly exciting and interesting outcome.

Will never work here, too much baggage and too much emphasis on venues of the past and too few people willing to show some tolerance and patience and open their ears to something new.

Not everywhere in Europe is a mixture of genres but those that are don't have the history that holds back the UK Rare Soul Scene, it's simply soul music to them whatever genre and they couldn't care less where fit was first played. There was records played by Arthur last night that are massive in Europe, Butch said you can't get on the floor when they are played, here they clear the floor.

[KevH]

Would it be ok the call them "Anything goes" Nights? That sounds more descriptive.

[Chalky]

so whats the difference between your view and mine then..have i not said the same as you just worded it differently?

moldie

What you said could just be describing 60's and 70's oldies.

[Chalky]

Would it be ok the call them "Anything goes" Nights? That sounds more descriptive.

Can't we just call it a Rare Soul Scene with Rare Soul Nights/Nighters? Time the tags and genres were done away with, it just holds the scene back.

[Guest]

depends how long the sets are id say. seems like most of your venues are hung up with hour slots.

give a decent dj a few hours straight to play about and assuming the audience are open minded enough (40 or under or not British as an example ) its a fairly exciting and interesting outcome.

whats age or being british got to do with it...im over 40 and british and like to hear bits of everything

moldie

[Guest]

Would it be ok the call them "Anything goes" Nights? That sounds more descriptive.

you call it what you like mate lolololol

atb moldie

[Guest]

Would it be ok the call them "Anything goes" Nights? That sounds more descriptive.

you call it what you like mate lolololol

atb moldie

What you said could just be describing 60's and 70's oldies.

oh so modern comes from the 6ts or 7ts then

ok misstra know it all

moldie

[KevH]

Can't we just call it a Rare Soul Scene with Rare Soul Nights/Nighters? Time the tags and genres were done away with, it just holds the scene back.

I agree Chalky.We could call ATB nights rare soul nights.But they are'nt the same thing are they?

[Chalky]

oh so modern comes from the 6ts or 7ts then

ok misstra know it all

moldie

I agree Chalky.We could call ATB nights rare soul nights.But they are'nt the same thing are they?

I don't claim to be anything....If I saw what you wrote or something similar on a flyer I would take it to be an oldies night, simple as that. The majority don't want across the board, 60's to the present day, that is a fact.

Rare Soul is just that to me whatever the year.

[Cunnie]

Can't we just call it a Rare Soul Scene with Rare Soul Nights/Nighters? Time the tags and genres were done away with, it just holds the scene back.

Agree with what you are saying & know where you are coming from Chalky but if you truly want to embrace all era's & genre's of the Soul scene I think the rare tag needs dropping.

[Guest]

I don't claim to be anything....If I saw what you wrote or something similar on a flyer I would take it to be an oldies night, simple as that. The majority don't want across the board, 60's to the present day, that is a fact.

Rare Soul is just that to me whatever the year.

so if i did a flyer with the word MODERN on it then it would suggest to you it was an OLDIES night

have you spoken to the majority? cos youve certainly never spoken to me

why not let ppl decide for themselves what they want....too many ppl on here telling others what they should or shouldnt be listening too.....not aimed at you

atb moldie...thats all the best not across the board

[Chalky]

so if i did a flyer with the word MODERN on it then it would suggest to you it was an OLDIES night

have you spoken to the majority? cos youve certainly never spoken to me

why not let ppl decide for themselves what they want....too many ppl on here telling others what they should or shouldnt be listening too.....not aimed at you

atb moldie...thats all the best not across the board

I would probably assume they would be 70's northern unless a recognised out and out modern soul DJ on the line up.

People are free to listen to and go where they please, can't force anyone to go anywhere, but there is too much talk from many on here who profess to be supporters of more progressive music policies, from 60's through the decades who fail to follow up what they say.

[Chalky]

Agree with what you are saying & know where you are coming from Chalky but if you truly want to embrace all era's & genre's of the Soul scene I think the rare tag needs dropping.

I simply used the "rare" tag to differentiate it from the more mainstream club soul. Maybe a more apt name can be dreamt up

[Guest]

I would probably assume they would be 70's northern unless a recognised out and out modern soul DJ on the line up.

why does the dj have to be a recognised one?...not being funny chalky but you dont know every dj on the scene

People are free to listen to and go where they please,.... can't force anyone to go anywhere, but there is too much talk from many on here who profess to be supporters of more progressive music policies, from 60's through the decades who fail to follow up what they say.

and that is aimed at?.....just cos they dont go to the events you go to?

moldie

[Guest]

I would probably assume they would be 70's northern unless a recognised out and out modern soul DJ on the line up.

.

but you mentioned in earlier post angie stone..i dont think she had even been born in the 7ts

your old mucker moldie

[Chalky]

and that is aimed at?.....just cos they dont go to the events you go to?

moldie

no one in particular

and you are right I don't know every DJ but I know a lot of them.

[Cunnie]

but you mentioned in earlier post angie stone..i dont think she had even been born in the 7ts

your old mucker moldie

Born in 1961.

Know that as she will soon be celebrating her 50th birthday (December I think).

[Chalky]

but you mentioned in earlier post angie stone..i dont think she had even been born in the 7ts

your old mucker moldie

fookin ell Moldie, it samples a 70's record and she was born in the 60's

[Guest]

no one in particular

lololololololol

and you are right I don't know every DJ but I know a lot of them.

im sure you do but there are plenty of lesser known djs out there you dont know who can put together a great modern set..big name dj doesnt always guarentee a big set....

moldie

[Guest]

Born in 1961.

Know that as she will soon be celebrating her 50th birthday (December I think).

i was actually joking cunnie or rather being sarcastic...a major fault of mine

moldie

prince and princess

[Guest]

Born in 1961.

Know that as she will soon be celebrating her 50th birthday (December I think).

i was actually joking cunnie or rather being sarcastic...a major fault of mine

moldie

prince and princess

fookin ell Moldie, it samples a 70's record and she was born in the 60's

see above post chalky..calm down its only a commercial

[KevH]

Anyway,back to ATB.

If you heard Joi Cardwell,Shep - fool to fool,Miracles - whole lotta shakin',dj genesis,one after the other,would you be at a rare night or an atb night? Is this format planned or thrown together and called across the board?

[Julie Moore]

sorry julie but have to dissagree slightly......pilsley is a totally across the board night...in fact barry insists his residents play acroos the board and his guests usually do the same....most across the board events up your way have mainly oldies djs with maybe a guest spinner that can throw a few motown,rnb or modern tunes in...which imvho isnt across the board

ive looked at playlists from many events on here claiming to be ATB but the truth is they just aint

as is always the case these are MY views only

moldie x

Hi Moldie, hope your well bud

If you read my post properly i did say there was a few scattered about in my now localish area ...Pilsley being the best ......but i didn`t want to go naming names and slagging some off so i thought i would not name any at all ....but you of all people know my taste in music and how ive tried lots & lots of new venues over the last couple of years .....but still come away dissapointed maybe its me

Regards

Julie x