Tomangoes Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Some tunes, back in the day, used to be massive, then over and done with very quickly and seem to get lost forever. A few examples: Cal Tjader - Soul Sauce Black Soul Music - Black Soul Mack Simmons - Turning Point Attractions - Mammas Baby Cant say I've heard any of these at a soul night in 30 years. Any others deserve a mention? Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 ERNEST FITZGERALD - ACE IN THE HOLE. - big for alan rhodes for a weeks then disappeared, only a cheapie too Can't find one to buy, let alone hear it out anywhere now! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Some records I only ever remember hearing once at Wigan: john gary - hang on to me john andrews - it's just love jacki bond - why can't i love him prince ella & sidney jones - baby sugar i love you blue chips - tell him barry st john - everything i touch turns to tears probably hundreds more Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Cochise - Paul Humphrey You Sexy Sugar Plum - Rodger Collins Overture - The Miracles Broadway Cissy - Roscoe & Co All monsters in their time but seldom heard these days..... Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Broadway Cissy - Roscoe & Co That reminds me - Mata Baby "Do the Pearl Girl" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Twans - cant remember the last time i heard that out! Lesley Uggams - both of them Paula Durante - If He Were Mine Al de Lory - Right On Margaret Mandolph - Something Beautiful Frankie Crocker ete etc All biggies once...There's hundreds more like this....dunno maybe they get played at torch reunions/twisted wheel sessions so would never know Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 That reminds me - Mata Baby "Do the Pearl Girl" And the South Suburban Rhythm Section "Libra's Really Do Run It"......... Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Twans - cant remember the last time i heard that out! Lesley Uggams - both of them Paula Durante - If He Were Mine Al de Lory - Right On Margaret Mandolph - Something Beautiful Frankie Crocker ete etc All biggies once...There's hundreds more like this....dunno maybe they get played at torch reunions/twisted wheel sessions so would never know are we you may be missing the point, those records were monsters but the topic is records that were played once or twice then forgotten isn't it? Or not. I dunno. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 are we you may be missing the point, those records were monsters but the topic is records that were played once or twice then forgotten isn't it? Or not. I dunno. Dunno Pete how would we know if it was only played once unless at oNe venue you attended every week certainly the first post states cal tjader, heard that out quite a lot back in the day and many a time since, never heard of matt simmons or earnest fitzgerald so they may have been one-offs I guess? (can name a few records - some so-called big 'uns of today that showuldve been one-plays maybe another post there. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Dunno Pete how would we know if it was only played once unless at oNe venue you attended every week certainly the first post states cal tjader, heard that out quite a lot back in the day and many a time since, never heard of matt simmons or earnest fitzgerald so they may have been one-offs I guess? (can name a few records - some so-called big 'uns of today that showuldve been one-plays maybe another post there. Well yeah we did attend Wigan every week, thats why I listed ones that I'd only heard there once. Well no I went every 2 weeks in 76, 3 out of every 4 in 77 and every single week in 78 up til august. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blake H Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Troy Keys...If I had my way..VMP Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 EJ CHANDLER-I CAN`T STAND TO LOSE YOU, That one seemed to be over n done with pretty quick, may have been the amount of copies that seemed to turn up over night, where did all those copies come from? was it soul bowl? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 T.L.C by PJ went on a quick curve dinnit?? Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest giant Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Some tunes, back in the day, used to be massive, then over and done with very quickly and seem to get lost forever. A few examples: Cal Tjader - Soul Sauce Black Soul Music - Black Soul Mack Simmons - Turning Point Attractions - Mammas Baby Cant say I've heard any of these at a soul night in 30 years. Any others deserve a mention? Ed INSTRUMENTALS Boots Randolph---take a letter maria(massive for John Vincent at the casino Gerry & Paul---the cat walk Ace Cannon----sea cruise( massive at the casino Earl Wright---thumb a ride VOCALS johnny Dynamite---the night the angels cried JEAN Carter---like one Nancy Wilson---end of our love Eddie & Ernie--i can do it Richard (popcorn) wylie---rosemary what happened Diane Renay--can't help loving that man Al Kent---the way you been acting haven't heard these in many years Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Does the fact that a 45 might have been played only once or twice at the Wigan Casino make it 'forgotten'? I don't think so. Anyone got the comprehensive list of every track played at every venue, large and small, national, local and parochial, across all the years? Of course not. So, the question is then: forgotten by whom? Seems the answer is only old timers who went to clubs that existed for a few short years and closed their doors - how long ago? Let's have some criteria to define 'forgotten' before the usual statements of "When I was at the [insert name of decades dead venue here]..." Which is usually followed by the lonesome cry along the lines of: "...it's not like the old days..." Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JON WILLIS Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 INSTRUMENTALS Boots Randolph---take a letter maria(massive for John Vincent at the casino Gerry & Paul---the cat walk Ace Cannon----sea cruise( massive at the casino Earl Wright---thumb a ride VOCALS johnny Dynamite---the night the angels cried JEAN Carter---like one Nancy Wilson---end of our love Eddie & Ernie--i can do it Richard (popcorn) wylie---rosemary what happened Diane Renay--can't help loving that man Al Kent---the way you been acting haven't heard these in many years Popcorn Wylie, played this out at SOULFUSION to a packed dance floor.. Nancy, Earl & Eddie get played out at Oxford Soul Club & Soulfusion Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 are we you may be missing the point, those records were monsters but the topic is records that were played once or twice then forgotten isn't it? Or not. I dunno. I thought the question was about tunes that went big very quickly, then disappeared just as quick... Maybe I'm wrong too Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stevemochan Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Jimmy Gresham This Feeling I Have Terri De I think it was played once at the casino by RS then disappeared. Still only a handfull of copys known and oh so good. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jerry Hipkiss Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Troy Keys...If I had my way..VMP Funnily enough I just replaced my copy after many years, played the instrumental loud and thought "I'd love to hear that out - minus the cheesy intro of course!"...so it's in the big box! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I thought the question was about tunes that went big very quickly, then disappeared just as quick... Maybe I'm wrong too Tony Me too (again) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I thought the question was about tunes that went big very quickly, then disappeared just as quick... Maybe I'm wrong too Tony But apart from that.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 i played broadway sissy at derby assembly rooms at 0430 in the mornning,,,still think this epitomies northern soul! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Does the fact that a 45 might have been played only once or twice at the Wigan Casino make it 'forgotten'? I don't think so. You could always try actually reading the question. Played for a few weeks then disappears. As Wigan casino was the venue I attended, thats the one that I can relate my experiences of. Edited October 13, 2011 by Pete S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ritchie Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Lynda Marcelle - It's not like you, Massive for a couple of months. Leslie Uggams - Dont you even care, Bigger than Jesus in 77. I still have it at the back of the box unplayed for donkeys years. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Lynda Marcelle - It's not like you, Massive for a couple of months. Leslie Uggams - Dont you even care, Bigger than Jesus in 77. I still have it at the back of the box unplayed for donkeys years. Absolutely brilliant though, that Leslie Uggams Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 You could always try actually reading the question. Yes, but 'Wigan' features in this threat seven times and 'Casino' eight times. Sorry, make that eight and nine times respectively Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Yes, but 'Wigan' features in this threat seven times and 'Casino' eight times. Sorry, make that eight and nine times respectively I know but if I'd spent most of my time at the 100 Club, I'd namecheck that place - I can only go by where I've been and what I've heard (or not heard)(again)(ever) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Some tunes, back in the day, used to be massive, then over and done with very quickly and seem to get lost forever. A few examples: Cal Tjader - Soul Sauce Black Soul Music - Black Soul Mack Simmons - Turning Point Attractions - Mammas Baby Cant say I've heard any of these at a soul night in 30 years. Any others deserve a mention? Ed Got the black soul music and just bought a copy of mamma'a little baby, was wondering if they'd been played, when and where these two first aired? i think I'm right in saying soul saurce was a wheel thing though I know it was also spun at the golden torch too. Edited October 13, 2011 by geeselad Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) T.L.C by PJ went on a quick curve dinnit?? Tony Been spinning this again.....someone on here actually requested it at our last gig. Some you never hear out but must have been big at one point as they were pressed. Bobbi Lynne-Jump Back In The Arms Of Love Marsha Brody-Right Combination Edie Walker -Good Guys Carlettes/Corlettes-Im Getting Tired....I'm spinning this again Joey Dee-How Can I Forget Cortez Greer-Strong On You...in the box I've got that Attractions Mammas Baby record somewhere....blue label springs to mind.Gave it one or two spins then filed it.Thought it was a poor record.....will give it another try. Edited October 13, 2011 by wiggyflat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Been spinning this again.....someone on here actually requested it at our last gig. Some you never hear out but must have been big at one point as they were pressed. Bobbi Lynne-Jump Back In The Arms Of Love Marsha Brody-Right Combination Edie Walker -Good Guys Carlettes/Corlettes-Im Getting Tired....I'm spinning this again Joey Dee-How Can I Forget Cortez Greer-Strong On You...in the box I've got that Attractions Mammas Baby record somewhere....blue label springs to mind.Gave it one or two spins then filed it.Thought it was a poor record.....will give it another try. From that lot, the Joey Dee was a truly massive record in early 76, bootlegged twice in fact, one of the biggest records of that year. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davetay Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Lynda Marcelle - It's not like you, Massive for a couple of months. Leslie Uggams - Dont you even care, Bigger than Jesus in 77. I still have it at the back of the box unplayed for donkeys years. I think you will find that Leslie Uggams went big in 76 covered up as Nancy Ames. Lyndia Marcelle got pressed in late 76/ early 77, both great records in there day and I still like them. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Been spinning this again.....someone on here actually requested it at our last gig. Some you never hear out but must have been big at one point as they were pressed. Bobbi Lynne-Jump Back In The Arms Of Love Marsha Brody-Right Combination Edie Walker -Good Guys Carlettes/Corlettes-Im Getting Tired....I'm spinning this again Joey Dee-How Can I Forget Cortez Greer-Strong On You...in the box I've got that Attractions Mammas Baby record somewhere....blue label springs to mind.Gave it one or two spins then filed it.Thought it was a poor record.....will give it another try. Cortez Greer is a fine record, and the other side is quite passable too, price started going up this last year or so too. The only thing it has against it is it was one of my first wifes favourite records (and still is), I still have a copy and would play it out. There's a version by someone else on a UK label too I seem to remember Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soul over easy Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Been spinning this again.....someone on here actually requested it at our last gig. Some you never hear out but must have been big at one point as they were pressed. Bobbi Lynne-Jump Back In The Arms Of Love Marsha Brody-Right Combination Edie Walker -Good Guys Carlettes/Corlettes-Im Getting Tired....I'm spinning this again Joey Dee-How Can I Forget Cortez Greer-Strong On You...in the box I've got that Attractions Mammas Baby record somewhere....blue label springs to mind.Gave it one or two spins then filed it.Thought it was a poor record.....will give it another try. ede walker / good guys / rising sons...got pressed as patience valantine / you cant tell the good guys from the bad.... i think? mid 70s use to get an air play, along with the likes of jessica james and the outlaws / we,ll be making out. Can anyone remember or as heard any where the ikettes / two timin double dealin ? that got a short life span mid or late 70.s? not heard that for years ,im pretty sure some of the folks who have been collecting since 70,s period will have a copy tucked away ? ...ktf. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think you will find that Leslie Uggams went big in 76 covered up as Nancy Ames. Lyndia Marcelle got pressed in late 76/ early 77, both great records in there day and I still like them. Was still going strong in 77, the tape I did Feb 12th 77, goes down well on there. Lydia Marcelle was a very rare play from what I can remember. Great though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 ede walker / good guys / rising sons...got pressed as patience valantine / you cant tell the good guys from the bad.... i think? mid 70s use to get an air play, along with the likes of jessica james and the outlaws / we,ll be making out. Can anyone remember or as heard any where the ikettes / two timin double dealin ? that got a short life span mid or late 70.s? not heard that for years ,im pretty sure some of the folks who have been collecting since 70,s period will have a copy tucked away ? ...ktf. I remember seeing the Ikettes in a wigan top 20 some time in 1975 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Been spinning this again.....someone on here actually requested it at our last gig. Some you never hear out but must have been big at one point as they were pressed. Bobbi Lynne-Jump Back In The Arms Of Love Marsha Brody-Right Combination Edie Walker -Good Guys Carlettes/Corlettes-Im Getting Tired....I'm spinning this again Joey Dee-How Can I Forget Cortez Greer-Strong On You...in the box I've got that Attractions Mammas Baby record somewhere....blue label springs to mind.Gave it one or two spins then filed it.Thought it was a poor record.....will give it another try. I can't remember ever hearing "Mama's Baby" anywhere. Not that great a record IMO anyway.... Likewise these two..... Bobbi Lynn - Jump Back In The Arms Of Love Marsha Brody-Right Combination They were around in droves but I can honestly say I can't remember ever hearing 'em out anywhere. The Bobbi Lynn's were virtually all water damaged from memory. I always remember wondering why there were gazillions of water-damaged Bobbi Lynn's on Look but no Freddy Chavez's anywhere! Ian D Edited October 13, 2011 by Ian Dewhirst Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) I can't remember ever hearing "Mama's Baby" anywhere. Not that great a record IMO anyway.... Likewise these two..... Bobbi Lynn - Jump Back In The Arms Of Love Marsha Brody-Right Combination They were around in droves but I can honestly say I can't remember ever hearing 'em out anywhere. The Bobbi Lynn's were virtually all water damaged from memory. I always remember wondering why there were gazillions of water-damaged Bobbi Lynn's on Look but no Freddy Chavez's anywhere! Ian D Yes they are all water damaged ........ Heres some more I rarely hear out out but must have had their day in the sunshine once Bobbi Lynne or Zenda Jacks-Earthquake Ellingtons-Destined To Become A Loser.....just not right for today Ila Vann-Can't Help Lovin That man..........ditto BJ Thomas-I Don't Have A Mind....never hear this.Last time I heard it Tim Ashibende was spinnin it. Tommy Sands-The Statue.....not my cuppa t but must have been massive.Never heard this played out!! Whats the story behind Val Mcennas Love Feeling as well? Must have been a big record at one point. What was Kennard Gardner Do The Skin all about as well....must have been popular as got booted Edited October 13, 2011 by wiggyflat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 couple of thing I remember from the 8ts, Joe Stampley/ uniques- not too long ago and Anita Hulmes - what will I do Think the Anita Hulmes was a stafford track but was certainly a big spin around 87 for a while. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 couple of thing I remember from the 8ts, Joe Stampley/ uniques- not too long ago and Anita Hulmes - what will I do Think the Anita Hulmes was a stafford track but was certainly a big spin around 87 for a while. That Uniques was getting spun in London 2001/2002 by Jo Wallace quite a lot.I'm sure they were a garage band and from memory came out on UK Pye? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 couple of thing I remember from the 8ts, Joe Stampley/ uniques- not too long ago and Anita Hulmes - what will I do Think the Anita Hulmes was a stafford track but was certainly a big spin around 87 for a while. Anita Hulmes was spun at Wigan for a while Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 That Uniques was getting spun in London 2001/2002 by Jo Wallace quite a lot.I'm sure they were a garage band and from memory came out on UK Pye? It was spun a lot round the stoke area around 87/ 88, at keele, highland suite, longton ect Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Anita Hulmes was spun at Wigan for a while I didn't know that, I didn't even hear it til 1988 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I didn't know that, I didn't even hear it til 1988 I'd heard it when I was going out with Colleen, Steve Fay had a copy too. Maybe it was one of those things that was played very briefly then disappeared for a while Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I'd heard it when I was going out with Colleen, Steve Fay had a copy too. Maybe it was one of those things that was played very briefly then disappeared for a while Which, hey, is the whole point of the thread innit....? Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 That Uniques was getting spun in London 2001/2002 by Jo Wallace quite a lot.I'm sure they were a garage band and from memory came out on UK Pye? They have done loads of stuff mostly in a country style "not too long ago" came out on Dot LP with a Hawaii break in it ;-0 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 They have done loads of stuff mostly in a country style "not too long ago" came out on Dot LP with a Hawaii break in it ;-0 and on UK Dot 45 - credited just to Joe Stampley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 and on UK Dot 45 - credited just to Joe Stampley Have you listened Pete it's mad,there early stuff there some good one in-between loads of country stuff. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Have you listened Pete it's mad,there early stuff there some good one in-between loads of country stuff. Yeah the early stuff is good, they were more r&b then though I think Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Yeah the early stuff is good, they were more r&b then though I think Yeah got a couple good 45s by 'em,i would have said 50/50 c&w/r&b. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 couple of thing I remember from the 8ts, Joe Stampley/ uniques- not too long ago and Anita Hulmes - what will I do Think the Anita Hulmes was a stafford track but was certainly a big spin around 87 for a while. Uniques goes back further than that doesn't it.Malc Burton,where are you?. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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