Guest giant Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 WENT TO LOCAL DO FEW WEEKS AGO, SEAN CHAPMAN WAS DJ ING. HE PLAYED A RECORD BY STEPHANIE MCKAY-- TAKE ME OVER ,VOCAL TO DAVE ANS COLLINS--DOUBLE BARREL, THE DANCE FLOOR REACTION WAS FANTASTIC. I HEARD THIS SONG FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THOUGHT YES NICE TUNE AND VERY SOULFUL. JUST WONDERING IF ANY ONE KNOWS THIS 45 AND WHAT THEY THINK. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN GO TO YOU TUBE, TYPE IN STEPHANIE MCKAY.
Guest dundeedavie Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 i think it was originally a 12" ... i bought it as a new release some years ago
Guest theoriginator56 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 few promo 45s sent out . realeasd on 12inch originaly lp track. 2oo6 was the year of realese.
Guest giant Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 few promo 45s sent out . realeasd on 12inch originaly lp track. 2oo6 was the year of realese. i have just purchased the promo 45 it cost me fair bit as its very hard to find the 45 realesed date 2003. i believe its been played on the northern scene from time to time.
Iancsloft Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Get ur Doc Martins on and play Dave & Ansil Collins then moon stomp on down to my loft and buy some proper rare records its about as Northern as Sponge Bob & Patrik Starfish singing Do the Jelly fish MY GOD Mr B you,ll be dancin around a handbag next 2
Guest giant Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Get ur Doc Martins on and play Dave & Ansil Collins then moon stomp on down to my loft and buy some proper rare records its about as Northern as Sponge Bob & Patrik Starfish singing Do the Jelly fish MY GOD Mr B you,ll be dancin around a handbag next very funny Ian
Iancsloft Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 very funny Ian Thank you im a man of many talents has well you know
Guest Beeks Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) i think it was originally a 12" ... i bought it as a new release some years ago It was..I got it when first released too..2003..definitely not 2006 as an earlier poster suggested..I know for a fact because I was working for Fat City Records at the time and regularly played it out..one of my fave records to this day Edited October 11, 2011 by Beeks
Guest giant Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 It was..I got it when first released too..2003..definitely not 2006 as an earlier poster suggested..I know for a fact because I was working for Fat City Records at the time and regularly played it out..one of my fave records to this day agree with you great tune
Guest john s Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 The 7" was definitely around first - in Bristol, at least. Produced by Geoff Barrow from Portishead.
Guest theoriginator56 Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 It was..I got it when first released too..2003..definitely not 2006 as an earlier poster suggested..I know for a fact because I was working for Fat City Records at the time and regularly played it out..one of my fave records to this day 2003 thanks for that dont time fly.
grant Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Love it too, got one myself but never had the balls to play it out
Pete S Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I'm sure there's already a topic about this. Double Barrel is one of THE all time classic reggae singles. This vocal is alright, nothing special. But why would anyone play it at a Northern Soul venue? You can't get more 'reggae' than the combination of producer Winston Riley and keyboard maestro Ansel Collins. It's not soul. Why does this get played, and does it mean anything goes? IF anything, you'd have thought it would be a rocksteady record that gets played seeing as those really are soulful recordings...but this one? Just need someone to explain where it fits in. And this is from the person who was advocating playing some Jamaican music way way back. I'm not slagging off this record, don't get me wrong - when refosoul comes back up, search for this and you'll find it was originally posted up several years ago - actually by me I think. Edited October 12, 2011 by Pete S
TOAD Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 a bit late on this as its been in refosoul for YEARS !
paultp Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) I've just listened to this on youtube and it sounds like someone is spinning two 45s on the decks and left the volume on both decks on - a sort of poor mix. I didn't listen for long as it seems just a cheap way of cashing in on an incredible record (Dave and Ansell Collins). Nothing is new anymore is it? Why would anyone play this on the NS scene? I've listened to the live version now and that sounds a bit better (a bit less of a rip off) but playing it would justify those people at venues who insist on going up to the decks and saying "Have you got any northern mate?" Edited October 13, 2011 by paultp
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 a bit late on this as its been in refosoul for YEARS ! Yes four or five years
Derek Pearson Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 And to make it easier for everybody here's a YouTube link: derek x
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) I agree with PETE on this....an average vocal performance over one of the all-time great JA intsrumental cuts but what this has in common with Northern Soul, apart from being records made by black artists is beyond me....Different genre completely.... Edited October 14, 2011 by rich chorley 1
Andybellwood Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Love it too, got one myself but never had the balls to play it out Hi Grant, one for you to spin @ the next ATOH (hopefully) - getting plays at Waterfront Bluyes & Soul Club (York) and next Riley Smith ! I 'm a convert - love it
grant Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Hi Grant, one for you to spin @ the next ATOH (hopefully) - getting plays at Waterfront Bluyes & Soul Club (York) and next Riley Smith ! I 'm a convert - love it i'll get a gallon of that german lager down my neck first then Andy
Geeselad Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Brought this issue up a while ago, tis a pile, no large pile, of steaming turd and absolutly nowt to do with the Northern scene. I could go on about so called oldies fans being so ready to dance to this, and other reggae tunes along with Mel Torme and and Chris Farlow stating 'it was played it the wheel!' like its a defence! These same oldies punters detest any northern they've not heard before and would run a mile from any dancefloor that played any authentic 6ts, black, record they'd not heard of. Edited October 13, 2011 by geeselad
Guest MrC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 WTF?!! Why is anyone even defending playing it at a northern night?! A discussion about boots or OVO can cause ranting and raving over numerous pages almost every month, then people stop playing boots and start playing reggae? I still haven't stopped shaking my head in disgust! The words "time & place" spring to mind, and a northern night, be it upfront, oldies, modern, whatever, sure aint it!! Double Barrel is one of the greatest reggae instrumental tracks of all time, (reminds me of the waltzers when the fair was in town) but it is what it is, and that's how it should stay... (still shaking my head...)
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) WTF?!! Why is anyone even defending playing it at a northern night?! A discussion about boots or OVO can cause ranting and raving over numerous pages almost every month, then people stop playing boots and start playing reggae? I still haven't stopped shaking my head in disgust! The words "time & place" spring to mind, and a northern night, be it upfront, oldies, modern, whatever, sure aint it!! Double Barrel is one of the greatest reggae instrumental tracks of all time, (reminds me of the waltzers when the fair was in town) but it is what it is, and that's how it should stay... (still shaking my head...) Paul and Rich, I may be being a bit pedantic but Double Barrel is not actually an instrumental, it's a DJ record. The B side, Double Barrel (version) is an instrumental though. Edited October 13, 2011 by Pete S
Guest MrC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Paul and Rich, I may be being a bit pedantic but Double Barrel is not actually an instrumental, it's a DJ record. The B side, Double Barrel (version) is an instrumental though. You, pedantic? Never!
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 WTF?!! Why is anyone even defending playing it at a northern night?! A discussion about boots or OVO can cause ranting and raving over numerous pages almost every month, then people stop playing boots and start playing reggae? I still haven't stopped shaking my head in disgust! The words "time & place" spring to mind, and a northern night, be it upfront, oldies, modern, whatever, sure aint it!! Double Barrel is one of the greatest reggae instrumental tracks of all time, (reminds me of the waltzers when the fair was in town) but it is what it is, and that's how it should stay... (still shaking my head...) The thing is, that if this record is supposedly acceptable at a Northern do, then what in this genre is not? I grew up with this music and used to haunt the blues and shebeenz of Southampton for years listening to it...It is great music in it's own environment and deserves full hearing inside it's own events etc...but if this cut is ok, then whats to stop supposed Northern DJ's from breaking into the whole, vast reggae catalogue and playing loads of other tunes of a similar style?...Only I would hope, the realisation that this is a totally different musical genre and nothing to do with what we have viewed as NS at all....There are already lots of scooterist do's and weekenders wherin such music is played alongside Northern, Motown and other 'club' genres and that to me is where this belongs...I do not want to go to a Soul do and hear a scooterist style playlist, if that were to happen it would be the end of it to me....But hey PETE, maybe it's me being pedantic...
Kevinkent Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Well I like it........but Pam say's "NO! Not at all - they sound stupid tgether!" She's usually right you know. - Kev
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 The thing is, that if this record is supposedly acceptable at a Northern do, then what in this genre is not? I grew up with this music and used to haunt the blues and shebeenz of Southampton for years listening to it...It is great music in it's own environment and deserves full hearing inside it's own events etc...but if this cut is ok, then whats to stop supposed Northern DJ's from breaking into the whole, vast reggae catalogue and playing loads of other tunes of a similar style?...Only I would hope, the realisation that this is a totally different musical genre and nothing to do with what we have viewed as NS at all....There are already lots of scooterist do's and weekenders wherin such music is played alongside Northern, Motown and other 'club' genres and that to me is where this belongs...I do not want to go to a Soul do and hear a scooterist style playlist, if that were to happen it would be the end of it to me....But hey PETE, maybe it's me being pedantic... In what way are you being pedantic apart from using one of my buzzwords you're spot on. Nobody has yet answered - why are you playing reggae records?
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Well I like it........but Pam say's "NO! Not at all - they sound stupid tgether!" She's usually right you know. - Kev Kev, nothing wrong with the record, we just can't understand where it fits in.
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 i suppose what else is interesting is the way that the guy says 'the dancefloor reaction was fantastic'....well, that's no justification, I am sure we could all come up with a massive list of records that buzzed a dancefloor once but which now no self-respecting SOUL DJ would touch with the brush that cleans out PETE'S shed....
Guest Beeks Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Am I being a bit thick here or are you all arguing with...erm....noone? Has anyone even mentioned it's been played in a northern night on this thread? Because I can't see it? The comments about the vocals being shite are f**king laughable to be fair..takes blinkered up to a totally new level of tone deaf f**kwittery It may not be your cup of tea..but if you truly 'understand' good music..then you should be able to take a step back and see this record for what it is.. A f**king great tune
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Am I being a bit thick here or are you all arguing with...erm....noone? Has anyone even mentioned it's been played in a northern night on this thread? Because I can't see it? The comments about the vocals being shite are f**king laughable to be fair..takes blinkered up to a totally new level of tone deaf f**kwittery It may not be your cup of tea..but if you truly 'understand' good music..then you should be able to take a step back and see this record for what it is.. A f**king great tune In the first post you blind tw&t
Guest giant Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Am I being a bit thick here or are you all arguing with...erm....noone? Has anyone even mentioned it's been played in a northern night on this thread? Because I can't see it? The comments about the vocals being shite are f**king laughable to be fair..takes blinkered up to a totally new level of tone deaf f**kwittery It may not be your cup of tea..but if you truly 'understand' good music..then you should be able to take a step back and see this record for what it is.. A f**king great tune you tell them Beeks. its good tune
Guest MrC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 you tell them Beeks. its good tune whether it's any good or not isn't the issue!
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) whether it's any good or not isn't the issue! Thats correct. Most of us were saying it was good (though not a patch on Double Barrel) but want to know why it's being played at Northern do's when it's out and out reggae. That's all. Edited October 13, 2011 by Pete S
pikeys dog Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I've heard this played at a Northern do - the Metrodome in Barnsley to be exact, and it was by a female DJ - Sam Evans I think she's called? Great record but wrong place, wrong time IMO - however, it was funny watching the Roxy Threads and Circle Skirts doing the slidey side to side dance to a uppy-downy record... a bit like watching a piece of film with with the wrong soundtrack. 1
Tabs Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Doesn't actually say it was a Northen do though. A local event where Sean Chapman was DJ. Can I be a pedant as well? In the first post you blind tw&t
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Doesn't actually say it was a Northen do though. A local event where Sean Chapman was DJ. Can I be a pedant as well? Just thought it was logical that he would have been playing it at a Northern do as he's been reported playing it at Kings Hall I think it was?
Tabs Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Think it was the KH Pete. But I was in the rare room so missed it. You well sir? Just thought it was logical that he would have been playing it at a Northern do as he's been reported playing it at Kings Hall I think it was?
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Think it was the KH Pete. But I was in the rare room so missed it. You well sir? No mate I nearly cut my finger off while trying to cut a pork chop in half sideways while holding it with myleft hand. Hence s*t typing with one hand only LOL
Pete S Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I've heard this played at a Northern do - the Metrodome in Barnsley to be exact, and it was by a female DJ - Sam Evans I think she's called? Great record but wrong place, wrong time IMO - however, it was funny watching the Roxy Threads and Circle Skirts doing the slidey side to side dance to a uppy-downy record... a bit like watching a piece of film with with the wrong soundtrack. There's only one way to dance to proper skinhead reggae...
Tabs Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Have a word with goodangel on here. He hack sawed half his thumb off last weekend. Even with no damage I'm still a crap typist. No mate I nearly cut my finger off while trying to cut a pork chop in half sideways while holding it with myleft hand. Hence s*t typing with one hand only LOL Edited October 13, 2011 by Tabs
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Am I being a bit thick here or are you all arguing with...erm....noone? Has anyone even mentioned it's been played in a northern night on this thread? Because I can't see it? The comments about the vocals being shite are f**king laughable to be fair..takes blinkered up to a totally new level of tone deaf f**kwittery It may not be your cup of tea..but if you truly 'understand' good music..then you should be able to take a step back and see this record for what it is.. A f**king great tune 'A f...cking great tune?,,,,Great, that's a big word...this is not a 'great' record, it's a reasonable reggae vocalisation over an already classic record...there are a lot of far 'greater' original reggae records than this, that's for sure but I am not suggesting a discussion of them... Oh well, could not resist it...MARCIA GRIFFITHS 'Sweet bitter love'....for example, no comparison, that';s what a proper 'great' reggae female record sounds like... Edited October 13, 2011 by rich chorley
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 https://youtu.be/6HkQ6QZPbH0 A piece of 'great' JA female vocalisation....
Guest Beeks Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 'A f...cking great tune?,,,,Great, that's a big word...this is not a 'great' record, it's a reasonable reggae vocalisation over an already classic record...there are a lot of far 'greater' original reggae records than this, that's for sure but I am not suggesting a discussion of them... Oh well, could not resist it...MARCIA GRIFFITHS 'Sweet bitter love'....for example, no comparison, that';s what a proper 'great' reggae female record sounds like... Massive hole in your argument there mate SHE'S NOT A REGGAE SINGER Have you had a listen? Hardly Sister Nancy is it?! McKay is more your Angie Stone/Terri Walker/Jill Scott type vocalist..and a respected one at that Anyone who collaborates with Amp Fiddler is worth their salt..trust me
Guest giant Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Love it too, got one myself but never had the balls to play it out after all the negative views i don't think iv;e got the balls to play it out either
Guest giant Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Massive hole in your argument there mate SHE'S NOT A REGGAE SINGER Have you had a listen? Hardly Sister Nancy is it?! McKay is more your Angie Stone/Terri Walker/Jill Scott type vocalist..and a respected one at that Anyone who collaborates with Amp Fiddler is worth their salt..trust me Beeks ,you can't educate these people, your right mckay is in same mould as Angie stone very soulful.
Guest giant Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 'A f...cking great tune?,,,,Great, that's a big word...this is not a 'great' record, it's a reasonable reggae vocalisation over an already classic record...there are a lot of far 'greater' original reggae records than this, that's for sure but I am not suggesting a discussion of them... Oh well, could not resist it...MARCIA GRIFFITHS 'Sweet bitter love'....for example, no comparison, that';s what a proper 'great' reggae female record sounds like... hey cleaver dick STEPHANIE MCKAY is not reggae artist
Guest Marky Tee Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 hey cleaver dick STEPHANIE MCKAY is not reggae artist And i'm sure a cleaver dick is not that clever either
Modernsoulsucks Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Just think if on this soul scene back in '75 instead of Gary Lewis or Bobby Goldsboro the dj had put on Tommy McCook or Soul Brothers.... A lot of us came from that background. ROD 1
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