Middleman Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Hi Probably should know this but...... How rare is the original (charger?) issue of "out on the floor" and price? Cheers ATB Steve Edited June 20, 2013 by 45cellar Artist Tag
soulsalmon Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Hi Probably should know this but...... How rare is the original (charger?) issue of "out on the floor" and price? Cheers ATB Steve orig is on thunderbird,local first label
Rbman Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 orig is on thunderbird,local first label Is it?...was that not a few years later? 1
Patto Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Not rare,Original with CR2049 stamped matrix in deadwax fetches about £20
Middleman Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Thanks SS How rare is it? Either label S
Middleman Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Thanks all I'm sure i haven't seen one for sale in the last year? Anywhere.
Rbman Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Not rare on Charger.....I think Thunderbird release has a different flip side....
TOAD Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 my baby is the thunderbird flip and worth a spin or two
dthedrug Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Is it?...was that not a few years later? HI yep you are right it's a 69 release, maybe 1970, And I always thought it was a response from the copyright owners to try and US to all 4 BOOTLEGS that turned up over the end period of the WHEEL. to try and get at least something back, they failed unlike SELECTA DISC who made money on all the bootlegs, and then make another tidy amount, from the new copyright owners issuing it on Black Magic making the Demo copy along with Jimmy soul Clarke, worth picking up to-day, the Strange World of NORTHERN SOUL? DAVE K
Pete S Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Thunderbird is actually from the mid 70's I think, when Black Magic almost charted with it.
Guest Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Thunderbird - is a 1973 press - Fairlawn, new jersey.
Mick Holdsworth Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Was it a different version on Thunderbird - I'm thinking it was the "Out Of Sight" soundtrack version. Might be wrong on that though.
Gene-r Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Thunderbird is actually from the mid 70's I think, when Black Magic almost charted with it. Thought it actually was a UK Top 40 hit in September 1975, Pete?
Pete S Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Thought it actually was a UK Top 40 hit in September 1975, Pete? Dunno mate, not got my nerd spectacles on 1
Pete S Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Thunderbird - is a 1973 press - Fairlawn, new jersey. This makes sense as it would have been released to cash in on the success of Drift Away
grant Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Was it a different version on Thunderbird - I'm thinking it was the "Out Of Sight" soundtrack version. Might be wrong on that though. Got the LP Out Of Sight on Decca if I remember right, has a slighlty different ending - probably about 2-3 secs longer than the Charger version. Was a tough LP to get at one time
Gene-r Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Dunno mate, not got my nerd spectacles on Just found out it was a Top 50 hit here in Sep '75, reaching No. 42 (second record on the label to make the UK singles charts - "Papa Ooh Mow Mow" by The Sharonettes reached No. 26 in May that year). Edited October 11, 2011 by Gene-R
Guest Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I've seen other things on Thunderbird...seems to be a budget reissue label of sorts? Still, quite rare and the only way to get the tune on a US WD...looks cool!
Guest Perception Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 The Charger original copies with "Out On The Floor" title in small print, are much rarer than the normal copies.
Middleman Posted October 11, 2011 Author Posted October 11, 2011 So.........., the original is on charger right?, and all of the ones i see for sale are repos? As per JM's website. Ta!
Gene-r Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Also booted on Charger, but without the matrix number under the logo on the label. I think that's got to be quite rare in itself, having only seen one in 30 years. Edited October 12, 2011 by Gene-R
Rbman Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 15 Charger Dobie gray Out on the floor M £20 Shifty has one on his current list......I'm sure he'll be pleased to guarantee it is a first issue....
Theothertosspot Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 HI yep you are right it's a 69 release, maybe 1970, And I always thought it was a response from the copyright owners to try and US to all 4 BOOTLEGS that turned up over the end period of the WHEEL. to try and get at least something back, they failed unlike SELECTA DISC who made money on all the bootlegs, and then make another tidy amount, from the new copyright owners issuing it on Black Magic making the Demo copy along with Jimmy soul Clarke, worth picking up to-day, the Strange World of NORTHERN SOUL? DAVE K The issue had a female version by Paula Roussell on the B side as I recall TOTP
Theothertosspot Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 The issue had a female version by Paula Roussell on the B side as I recall TOTP Apologies, thinking of Bob Relf, what a **** (note the username)
Guest DeeJay Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 my baby is the thunderbird flip and worth a spin or two My Baby came out on charger as well DJ
Prophonics 2029 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 First one is the boot and the other is the large print original, have a small print somewhere to scan.
dthedrug Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 HI ALL..Is it just me? I have always loved "Out ob the floor" However, it's Northern Soul credentials, are so ingrained in our Psyche, over the years we have in the main overlooked the 2 classics that he made, which at one time were a youth cult statement, in a similar way that the WHO's "my Generation!" & Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Whels "Breakout", the funder mental difference was, back in 1968/7 the other records had UK releases, In todays market the original issues of all the above, which include "the-In Crowd" LONDON, & "See you at the GO-GO" PYE INT, Especially if you have the DEMO's of them, The B side of "Se you at the GO-GO" "Walk With LOVE" is a great tune in it's own right it's a jem, don't get me wrong, "out on the floor" is a true classic, but has lost it's rare soul tag in 2011 "See you at the GO-GO" i BELIEVE STILL HAS THE GREAT, TWISTED WHEEL SOUND TO IT! DAVE
Gene-r Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) And here's my old copy of the rarer, small-print label, which I sold for £20 last year (I've taken this long in posting it up because I forgot I had saved the scan!). One thing I've only just noticed is that it has a "CH" serial number, as opposed to the conventional "CRG" number. Edited October 16, 2011 by Gene-R
ulyssees Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Very interesting, so not a valuable item. Has anyone ever seen a first issue Charger Demo? KIR Yule
Tlscapital Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Nope, for some reasons (why is that I still don't know for facts) some major companies and less major ones, didn't issue promos for some of their releases. As to Dobie Gray on Charger I know only of the 'in crowd', 'in Hollywood' & 'my babe' as promos but not of 'out on the floor'. Maybe doesn't exist.
Guest trickbag Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04jyj60 brain matthew played it yesterday on his morning show. 8-10am, ricky.
Chris L Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 orig is on thunderbird,local first label Thunderbird is a re-issue Charger is the original.
Chris L Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Hi Probably should know this but...... How rare is the original (charger?) issue of "out on the floor" and price? Cheers ATB Steve Steve , it's harder than most people think, the majority floating about are boots. As for price one went tonight on Ebay at £36.00. This is an original :
Jim G Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) OK so is this an original? Edited October 24, 2014 by jim g
45cellar Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Appears to be the rarer, small print label. 1
Jim G Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Appears to be the rarer, small print label. Cheers, $12 on Ebay 1
Mark S Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 So does the boot still have the matrix stamp ? Thanks .
Millo Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 So does the boot still have the matrix stamp ? Thanks . Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix. 1
Mark S Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix. Brilliant thank you had my copy since the seventies was never sure ( its a real one )
Guest Scorebydefault Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Hi Millo, I understand what a matrix is but how do you tell the difference between a scorched and a stamped one? i bought a copy for my Dad's 60th but think I'm being conned with a bootleg.
Guest Scorebydefault Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix. Thanks Millo please see above post. Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix.
Chris L Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) orig is on thunderbird,local first label Sorry, Thunderbird is a re-issue. To answer the original question, find an ORIGINAL is quite tough almost all floating around the UK are boots. Best find one in the US expect to pay £15 - 20.00 for a decent copy. Good luck. Edited April 3, 2015 by Chris L
Millo Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Hi Millo, I understand what a matrix is but how do you tell the difference between a scorched and a stamped one? i bought a copy for my Dad's 60th but think I'm being conned with a bootleg. Scratched matrix numbers look like they have been hand written. Stamped look like they have been machine stamped i.e.all the same height. Edited April 3, 2015 by Millo
Guest Scorebydefault Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Scratched matrix numbers look like they have been hand written. Stamped look like they have been machine stamped i.e.all the same height. Oh dear. I think mines a boot then. The numbers don't look like they align quite right. But they are all the same size.
Dave Thorley Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Oh dear. I think mines a boot then. The numbers don't look like they align quite right. But they are all the same size. That's an original
Millo Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Oh dear. I think mines a boot then. The numbers don't look like they align quite right. But they are all the same size. That is a stamped matrix number and Dave is right. Edited April 3, 2015 by Millo
Chris L Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Got the LP Out Of Sight on Decca if I remember right, has a slighlty different ending - probably about 2-3 secs longer than the Charger version. Was a tough LP to get at one time I have the video of the film
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