Brimbo Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 I'm looking for a Demo Release of INV 501 on UK EMI Invictus, Not a factory sample will consider any condition but would like a good one I'm still looking for a couple of Demos to complete my set, or any thing else tied to invictus UK CBS or EMI releases Thank you Neil
dthedrug Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 SORRY TO DISAPPOINT BUT IT DOES NOT EXIST! AND THE PROMO IS VERY RARE, I SOLD THE ACETATE LAST YEAR,, ANY WAY GOOD LUCK DAVE
Dave Pinch Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 looks like a normal vinyl test pressing to me dave not so much an acetate...should have the same vinyl as a regular issue with the machine stamp in run out with white label and hand written credits dave
Brimbo Posted October 9, 2011 Author Posted October 9, 2011 looks like a normal vinyl test pressing to me dave not so much an acetate...should have the same vinyl as a regular issue with the machine stamp in run out with white label and hand written credits dave I think what Dave is saying is that the Demo doesnt exist, I have a spider pushout centre version of INV501 theres another on FleaBay at the moment at 99p , I didn't think a demo of INV502 existed but now I have 2 copies of that and one Mint Thanks for the comments I'm still looking Neil
dthedrug Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 looks like a normal vinyl test pressing to me dave not so much an acetate...should have the same vinyl as a regular issue with the machine stamp in run out with white label and hand written credits dave HI YOU ARE TALKING CRAP IF THATS THE CASE I WILL BUY ALL YOUR COMMON UK WHITE LABELS FOR THAT PRICE PLEASE SHOW ME EVIDENCE, AND A DEMO COPY OF 501??? DAVE
Dave Pinch Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 HI YOU ARE TALKING CRAP IF THATS THE CASE I WILL BUY ALL YOUR COMMON UK WHITE LABELS FOR THAT PRICE PLEASE SHOW ME EVIDENCE, AND A DEMO COPY OF 501??? DAVE what you on about ....all i am saying is the above copy is the UK test pressing on VINYL... its not an acetate FFS anybody who really knows me know i dont talk crap
Brimbo Posted October 23, 2011 Author Posted October 23, 2011 Dave is saying he sold the acestate last year, Not the pictured test press, Pete Smith had a acetate of 501 for sale 11 years ago I have one also, Hope that clears it up. I have never seen a demo copy of 501
Guest Paul Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Dave is saying he sold the acestate last year, Not the pictured test press, Pete Smith had a acetate of 501 for sale 11 years ago I have one also, Hope that clears it up. I have never seen a demo copy of 501 Same here, I collect UK Invictus and Hot wax etc and I've never seen a demo copy of INV 501. I wouldn't mind a test presing. Paul
Brimbo Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 I have a lot of duplicates even on the Demo's do you have any to trade ? Paul
Guest Paul Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I have a lot of duplicates even on the Demo's do you have any to trade ? Paul Hello, When I checked the list I'm actually missing a couple of UK Invictus issues and one Hot Wax. And I only have about 16 INV promos (out of 33?) and 12 HWX promos out of 20. I'll physically check what I actually have and what I need because I'm looking at an old excel document. I'll have some duplicates but I don't know if there's anything special. I'm the same with Contempo, Mojo, Stax, Brunswick (Decca series) etc. I have most issues, sometimes all, and many promos. It would be nice for soulsource members to share info and trade duplicates. Maybe we need a thread for this? If I'm not mistaken I have some INV or HWX promos with the same catalogue numbers but different release dates. No doubt some titles were deleted and issued again? I really like UK issues because that's what I mostly bought when I was a teenager. In recent years I've renewed my interest and I'm always looking for fresh copies and promo versions etc. It's addictive. Best wishes, Paul
Brimbo Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Same here, Youre taking about Hot Wax they issued demo's twice some had a Big A and some a small A with different dates, I dont know why either, Never seen any Invictus that way however I have got some with the wrong labels mixed different groups but just on the CBS releases, Also Dave has a few with nothing printed on the label at all Let me know I have a spreadshhet also Oh Yeah INV502 and INV533 However Gold Forever turned into Ardmore and Beechwood for some reason ??? Neil Edited October 24, 2011 by Brimbo
Paul McKay Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I think EMI had a problem with label printing in the early 70s and quite a few of their new labels had demo copies with white labels rather than the normal printed type. Later 70s labels like EMI Int and Mowest both had white labels for early issues.
Guest Paul Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Same here, Youre taking about Hot Wax they issued demo's twice some had a Big A and some a small A with different dates, I dont know why either, Never seen any Invictus that way however I have got some with the wrong labels mixed different groups but just on the CBS releases, Also Dave has a few with nothing printed on the label at all Let me know I have a spreadshhet also Neil Hello Neil, I just checked HWX and I have all the issues (20) but only 10 promos - I thought I had more. I also have variations such as copies of HWX 101 on the first black / white label and also on the later black / silver label (I think I have another issue in that variations) and I have HWX 102 on black / white and multi-coloured heading labels. I don't have any HWX blank labels or test pressings. I haven't checked duplicates yet (probably nothing special) but I'll make a list of the HWX promos I need. Then I'll do the same with INV. Paul
Guest Paul Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 ...Oh Yeah INV502 and INV533 However Gold Forever turned into Ardmore and Beechwood for some reason ??? Neil Hello My copy of INV 502 has the publisher credited to Gold Forever Music Inc (the American publisher) but I assume later pressings credited the UK sub-publisher Ardmore & Beechwood Ltd (which was an EMI subsidiary). Records are often issued before a UK publisher has obtained rights so the credits were often to the US publishers or Copyright Control. UK publishers often pick up overseas rights after the record has become successful. For example, early UK Stax (Polydor) issues of 'I've Been Lonely For So Long' by Frederick Knight credited East Memphis as the publisher and later pressings credited Lowery/Chappell... ...only very sad people will notice these things (so I'm told). My issue copy of INV 533 (the 1973 reissue of INV 502) credits the UK sub-publisher Ardmore & Beechwood. By the way, I seem to see more promos than issues of INV 533; it was reportedly withdrawn when EMI's license was due to expire. Paul
Brimbo Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 Yeah it was released by EMI after the rights had been transfered to CBS and then withdrawn I must play it to see if the 533 release was stereo. There isnt many Invictus releases I dont have on Demo. But 501 eludes me Daves white label gets closest. I have the whole catalogue of HW. I need These on Demo 501 512 513 516 Hanging on to a memory 518 519 520 531
Paul McKay Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 INV 521 8th Day "Eeny meeny" was issued twice 0n 30/06/72 and again on 05/01/73.
Guest Paul Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) INV 521 8th Day "Eeny meeny" was issued twice 0n 30/06/72 and again on 05/01/73. Hello Paul, I noticed before I almost traded one as a duplicate, I have promo copies of the first and second issues of INV 521. I'm sure other titles had more than one release using the same catalogue number, as we already discussed for Hot Wax. Three of EMI's Invictus singles were unissued (INV 503, INV 508 and INV 517) so I've worked out that I have the full set - including the withdrawn INV 533. But I only have about 50% of them on promos so there are plenty to look out for. Hopefully we can all trade some duplicates. ...and I can try to stop buying records on eBay that I already have! Paul Edited October 25, 2011 by Paul
Brimbo Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 INV 521 8th Day "Eeny meeny" was issued twice 0n 30/06/72 and again on 05/01/73. I didnt know that, must check my copies
Brimbo Posted January 25, 2012 Author Posted January 25, 2012 Strange I noticed the second promo of 521 has no running time, my 507 demo has no running time does this mean that it is possibly a second promo release, I also have another demo with no running time could there be two releases of that too ??????? anyone
Paul McKay Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Also 516 Chairmen of the board was released with 2 different B sides: 1. When will she tell me she needs me 2. Hanging on to a memory
Denbo Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 With so many collectors / admirers of Invictus & Hot Wax currently all in one place, do any of you know if "God's Gift To Man" by General Johnson ever come out on a 45, in ANY country?
Ric-tic Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Hello Neil, I also have variations such as copies of HWX 101 on the first black / white label and also on the later black / silver label (I think I have another issue in that variations) and I have HWX 102 on black / white and multi-coloured heading labels. hot wax 102 black/white and multi-coloured.......... multi coloured? can you explain further thanks
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