boba Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I'm looking for suggestions for records that have a specific 60s female detroit sound ... records that sound "airy" or "spacey". specifically records that sound like these: monique - never let me go - maurci debonairs - how's your new love treating you - golden world debutantes - strong foundation - standout gambrells - find a love - pioneer embraceables - here i go - sidra they don't specifically have to be from detroit (and I'm not sure if monique is from detroit or not, obviously the label is chicago), but i'm just looking for that specific sound. thanks in advance. 1
Mister Fish Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Not sure if it's what your after but my immediate thought was Paula Durante's offerings on GJM
Premium Stuff Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Barbara Mercer - Call On Me/So Real (Sidra) Lonette - Mind Intruder (Dearborn) Sea Shells - Quiet Home (Villige) Loads more ... Cheers Richard
Tiggerwoods Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I'm looking for suggestions for records that have a specific 60s female detroit sound ... records that sound "airy" or "spacey". specifically records that sound like these: monique - never let me go - maurci debonairs - how's your new love treating you - golden world debutantes - strong foundation - standout gambrells - find a love - pioneer embraceables - here i go - sidra they don't specifically have to be from detroit (and I'm not sure if monique is from detroit or not, obviously the label is chicago), but i'm just looking for that specific sound. thanks in advance. Sandy Hollis - Tables will turn (Big Wheel)
Premium Stuff Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Tobi Lark - Challenge My Love (Topper) Toby Lark on USD - title escapes me at the mo Cheers Richard
Tony Smith Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Tobi Lark - Challenge My Love (Topper) Toby Lark on USD - title escapes me at the mo Cheers Richard "Lots of Heart"
Tony Smith Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 "Fool Don't Laugh" Rose St. John Veep "Could It Be" Mikki Farrow Karate "I'm Comin' Home" September Jones Kapp
Dave Thorley Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Not sure if it's what your after but my immediate thought was Paula Durante's offerings on GJM Hi Steve This is a Buffalo, N.Y. recording and release
Garethx Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Really like that Debutantes record on Standout, although it divides opinion. Think I ended up selling it to someone on here but not until more than one person had returned it as 'unusable'.
Tony Smith Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Really like that Debutantes record on Standout, although it divides opinion. Think I ended up selling it to someone on here but not until more than one person had returned it as 'unusable'.
Ian Williams Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I really like that kind of sound and this thread, come on folks get some more suggestions up there!
grant Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Lillian Dupree - Hide And Seek (and the other side) Diane Lewis - Without Your Love Debbie Taylor - Never Gonna Let Him Know
boba Posted October 6, 2011 Author Posted October 6, 2011 most of these suggestions are awesome, thanks so much. if I get enough I will do a mix and post it. I actually would include the other side of the three degrees, "no no not again" re: debutantes, every blue label styrene copy I've had has played with distortion, still looking for a pink label vinyl copy. the psychedelic sound makes sense on that one given that they were a white girl rock group.
Headsy Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Girly mid tempo, just what I collect Boba, Will send you a few suggestions by pm next few days
boba Posted October 6, 2011 Author Posted October 6, 2011 Girly mid tempo, just what I collect Boba, Will send you a few suggestions by pm next few days awesome. I have ~10 tracks so far, if I get 15 I'll make a mix and post it.
Garethx Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 most of these suggestions are awesome, thanks so much. if I get enough I will do a mix and post it. I actually would include the other side of the three degrees, "no no not again" re: debutantes, every blue label styrene copy I've had has played with distortion, still looking for a pink label vinyl copy. the psychedelic sound makes sense on that one given that they were a white girl rock group. The white DJ copies on styrene play fine. Reportedly a subsidiary of Golden World via the Myto Music credit too.
Garethx Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Margaret Mandolph's "I Wanna Make You Happy Tonight" on Planetary has that eerie, echoey sound. I think it can be attributed to arrangers trying to copy the Wall Of Sound but with small combos and very few tape tracks: hence the use of lots of reverb on the rhythm sections, strings and vocals.
boba Posted October 6, 2011 Author Posted October 6, 2011 OK here are the tracks I have so far, I thought of some more and used some of the suggestions. Everyone suggested awesome tracks, the ones I didn't use were either the wrong tempo or don't have exactly the production sound I'm looking for. If I get some more I will make a mix and post it. I don't own the september jones but can rip it from youtube and I couldn't find audio of the tobi lark on USD to hear it, I don't own that record either. Thanks again. monique - never let me go - maurci debonairs - how's your new love treating you - golden world debutantes - strong foundation - standout gambrells - find a love - pioneer embraceables - here i go - sidra sea shells - quiet home three degrees - no no not again rose st john - fool don't laugh september jones - i'm coming home theresa lindsey - wonderful one ultimates - just because you've gone and left me romey rand - say you're mine maybes that are close but i probably won't use: tiares - let's be lovers tobi lark - challenge my love (same backing as monique so i don't want to use it) miki farrow - could it be margaret mandolph - i wanna make you happy juanita williams - baby boy (too fast) deletts - what's the use sandy hollis - tables will turn barbara mercer - doin things together with you barbara mercer - so real
Robbk Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Margaret Mandolph was arranged by David Gates. Thus the "Wall of Sound" tracks. I'd be surprised if Monique was from Detroit (despite the Detroit tracks used on her cuts). ALL the other Maurci artists were from Chicago, as were Simtec Simmons and Gene Chandler. Only McKinley Jackson(among their staff) was from Detroit, and I would guess that he brought the Detroit tracks with him (despite their having belonged to Dave Hamilton).
Sutty Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Gloria Walker 'Deep inside of you' in columbia 45 is a detroit recording and I think fits your bill, but i'm not sure when it was recorded? they added a more disco-ey beat to the 'deep inside you' 12" e.p. but the 45 is the pre-disco version. Just put it on and thought of this thread. Immense 45. cheers Sutty Edited October 7, 2011 by Sutty
boba Posted October 7, 2011 Author Posted October 7, 2011 Gloria Walker 'Deep inside of you' in columbia 45 is a detroit recording and I think fits your bill, but i'm not sure when it was recorded? they added a more disco-ey beat to the 'deep inside you' 12" e.p. but the 45 is the pre-disco version. Just put it on and thought of this thread. Immense 45. cheers Sutty someone else also suggested gloria walker to me, many of her tracks are definitely spacey detroit soul. I think I'm trying to stick to the mid-60s sound in this though. Love that gloria walker ep though.
Colsoul Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) tamiko spellbound bouquets on mala i love him so not detroit but a cracker tune Edited October 9, 2011 by colsoul
Sutty Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 someone else also suggested gloria walker to me, many of her tracks are definitely spacey detroit soul. I think I'm trying to stick to the mid-60s sound in this though. Love that gloria walker ep though. Thought it might be a little too late although it has the sound - when was it recorded do you know? I know the 12" e.p. that came afterwards was 70's, but they were old recordings with additional instrumentation added on, so the 7" is different and i'd suspect maybe 69/70??? cheers Sutty
Andyf Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Babies - Hand Of Fate Halos - Just Keep On Loving Me Crampton Sisters on DCP title eludes me
Garethx Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Gloria Walker 'Deep inside of you' in columbia 45 is a detroit recording and I think fits your bill, but i'm not sure when it was recorded? they added a more disco-ey beat to the 'deep inside you' 12" e.p. but the 45 is the pre-disco version. Just put it on and thought of this thread. Immense 45. cheers Sutty Gloria Taylor!
Sutty Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Gloria Taylor! indeed, don't know why I put Walker seeing as her name on the 45 label I was looking at when i posted lol
boba Posted October 7, 2011 Author Posted October 7, 2011 Gloria Taylor! I'm an idiot. Either way, great records, but the sound I'm looking for is 60s and the taylor records are definitely 70s sounding. I have about 15 records now, will work on a mix in the next few days. hopefully someone can add something else before then though. thanks everyone.
Chalky Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Bob, I hope you realise the trouble this is gonna cause with yet another genre to add to the Northern Soul Family........Spacey Detroit night coming your way soon!!
Garethx Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Cookie Scott's "Misled" on Orr? Not Detroit but definitely has that spacey feeling and dramatic, thin string sound. Also Carol Jones "Don't Destroy Me" on Mutt.
boba Posted October 7, 2011 Author Posted October 7, 2011 Bob, I hope you realise the trouble this is gonna cause with yet another genre to add to the Northern Soul Family........Spacey Detroit night coming your way soon!! yes, everyone will only be playing the same 15 records on repeat. cookie scott is a pretty good one. carol jones is too heavy for the mix but i'm using the sophisticates on mutt
Premium Stuff Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Dena Barnes - Who Am I (Inferno) ultimate spacey or not?
boba Posted October 7, 2011 Author Posted October 7, 2011 Dena Barnes - Who Am I (Inferno) ultimate spacey or not? that is a good one. i never heard it before, listening now on youtube. if the background vocals were present for more than a few seconds it would be "spacier" as they add to the sound a lot.
Premium Stuff Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Cynthia & Imaginations - 'Love Is Real' (Blue Rock) Detroit Magic City recording - versions with and without spoken intro Or 'The Love You Forgot' - slower and 'spacier' Cheers Richard Edited October 7, 2011 by Premium Stuff
boba Posted October 7, 2011 Author Posted October 7, 2011 THEOLA KILGORE / ITS GONNA BE ALRIGHT / MERCURY nice, i never heard this version before, thanks for the suggestion. the maxine brown is a little spacier though.
sepia Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 you might like the other side aswell I CANT STAND IT.
Premium Stuff Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 Terri Bryant - Geni (Verve) a Groovesville recording Cheers Richard
Robbk Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Terri Bryant - Geni (Verve) a Groovesville recording Cheers Richard I'd call it rather a "Solid Hitbound" recording, as BOTH Lebaron Taylor and Don Davis produced it and furnished the recording effort, rather than just Davis (Groovesville).
Wrongcrowd Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Hi Bob, Give Gloria Taylor - Don't Want To Be A Girl That Cries / Total Disaster (Mercury) a spin, both sides fit the sound you're looking for, as you'd expect with Dale Warren on the arrangement
Ian Williams Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Ultimates on capito What a tune Steve - lovin this one!
Ian Williams Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Ultimates on capito What a tune Steve - lovin this one! Cookie Scott's "Misled" on Orr? Not Detroit but definitely has that spacey feeling and dramatic, thin string sound. Also Carol Jones "Don't Destroy Me" on Mutt. This superb - is the b side of I dont care ?
Ian Williams Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 I'd call it rather a "Solid Hitbound" recording, as BOTH Lebaron Taylor and Don Davis produced it and furnished the recording effort, rather than just Davis (Groovesville). Bloomin eck thats good...
Garethx Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 What a tune Steve - lovin this one! This superb - is the b side of I dont care ? Yup. The b-side of "I Don't Care" but also an a-side in its own right backed with a superb moody instrumental credited to Prince Shell and Orchestra.
Wrongcrowd Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Just sorting tunes for the Brothers Of Soul night in a couple of weeks time and reacquainted myself with Ortheia Barnes on Coral.... the flipside "Joey" would fit in to your Spacey Detroit set perfectly too....
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