Little Rena Scott

[Geeselad]

little rena scott- just cant forget thaty boy,

manship list this sublime uptempo item as on epic, mines on grand junction and not listed, is it the same version? rare? anyonew else have it on this label?

[Citizen P]

Mine's on Black Rock as Little Rena Scott.

Think it came out also as just Rena Scott-not sure of label

ATB

Tony

[ROCKS]

Mine on Grand Junction as well, not seen it on Epic. Always told Black Rock was the harder label to get it on,but these are the only ones I have ever seen for sale.

[Premium Stuff]

Fabulous record.

Have it on Black Rock, Grand Junction, Epic white DJ and Epic issue which I think has a DJ stamp. Can check out differences at the weekend but might need a quick reminder.

Cheers

Richard

[Robbk]

I have it on Epic, just as "Rena Scott". So, it may be a later version. Here's a scan:

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I remember George McGregor talking about producing this. It's unusual that it was a small. independent production, and yet, the producers and arrangers on each side are different. MacGregor used Miller Brisker (Bonnie's father) as his arranger. The flip, "Set Me Free", was produced by Tyrone Hite, and arranged by Sonny Sanders. That leads me to wonder if both recordings were funded by The Grand Junction owner and he released it locally, and after decent Detroit sales, he leased it to Epic. Or, if the Grand Junction was a different recording, and Hite & McGregor took the newer version to Epic.

Is the flip

Edited September 16, 2011 by RobbK

[Robbk]

Can one of you folk with the Grand Junction and Black Rock releases scan those for us? I'd like to know who the producers and arrangers were, and how long the songs are (if they are different, there's a reasonable chance these songs were re-recorded).

[Dave Thorley]

Hi Rob

When I spoke to George he told me that Black Rock was his label and the first release for Little Rene Scott song. He also put out Butch & The Newport (early incarnation of The Gaslight) and Chuck Armstrong on the label.

[ROCKS]

Scan of Little Rena Scott on Grand junction.............I hope

[Geeselad]

cheers guys thats helpful, great tune and just right for now as the cliche goes......

[Premium Stuff]

Here's an Epic WDJ scan - not my copy

Cheers

Richard

[Premium Stuff]

Both sides of Grand Junction (again not my copies)

Cheers

Richard

[Premium Stuff]

One side of Black Rock (not mine)

Cheers

Richard

[Steve G]

Hi Rob

When I spoke to George he told me that Black Rock was his label and the first release for Little Rene Scott song. He also put out Butch & The Newport (early incarnation of The Gaslight) and Chuck Armstrong on the label.

All great records as well. Oliver cheatham in Butch / newports / Gaslight as I recall. And chuck Armstrong - the man never made a duffer. The one on Black Rock is a nice mellow crossover.

[Premium Stuff]

From what I heard Rena was only 15 when she recorded this Then it got picked up by Epic for wider distribution

Also - George McGregor link here - she uses some of the lyrics from Rose Batiste's "Hit & Run" towards the end of the song

Cheers

Richard

[Premium Stuff]

Credits on IJCFTB are the same on Black Rock as Gaslight - identical layout too

Here is link to JM's YouTube (pause to see label details at start)

Cheers

Richard

Edited September 16, 2011 by Premium Stuff

[Robbk]

I don't know how many of each pressing got to The UK. But, in USA, back when the record was out, and into the early 1970s (up till 1972 ), I saw many, many more of the Grand Junction issue. Both the Black Rock, and the Epic issues were rare. The Grand Junction was fairly commoln. My "coverage" was mostly in Chicago, Detroit, L.A., San Diego, San Francisco/Oakland, Portland (Oregon), Seattle, Vancouver B.C. Indianapolis, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Kansas City. it was lesser so in the Northeastern cities, Canadian cities and NO coverage in Southern USA.

[Glynthornhill]

Don ' t see the Black Rock one ' s very often I have it on all but Grand Junction

And incidentally a spare white promo up on Ebay with no takers when auctioned ..now sitting in the store

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110740732752#ht_500wt_721

[Reg Scott]

Don ' t see the Black Rock one ' s very often I have it on all but Grand Junction

And incidentally a spare white promo up on Ebay with no takers when auctioned ..now sitting in the store

https://cgi.ebay.co.u...52#ht_500wt_721

I just has a look at the available copies from all the usual sellers and they are 90% 'Black Rock'

Strange world...

[Robbk]

I just has a look at the available copies from all the usual sellers and they are 90% 'Black Rock'

Strange world...

Sometimes multiple boxes of a particular US 45 got to Britain, when NO COPIES of that record ever reached a record shop in USA. Sometimes the rarist US pressing becomes the common one on The Northern Scene. It's a LOTR more "unbelievable" (and exasperating) to us North Americans than to you Brits (especially to those of you who thought (and still think) that we, across the pond, didn't want this obscure Soul music, and it was just sitting in warehouses waiting for you to "rescue" it, and bring it to a good home". I wanted it as badly as any of you.

[Reg Scott]

Sometimes multiple boxes of a particular US 45 got to Britain, when NO COPIES of that record ever reached a record shop in USA. Sometimes the rarist US pressing becomes the common one on The Northern Scene. It's a LOTR more "unbelievable" (and exasperating) to us North Americans than to you Brits (especially to those of you who thought (and still think) that we, across the pond, didn't want this obscure Soul music, and it was just sitting in warehouses waiting for you to "rescue" it, and bring it to a good home". I wanted it as badly as any of you.

Good point and interesting angle..