Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 Really then why write "I guess some sellers could potentially just pay the fees and write them off for business tax purposes" these are your own words not mine I do Hope you enjoy your record "Richard" To be honest you just come across as a know-it-all with your holier-than-thou statements. Obviously you just get off on lecturing other people all the time about what they should and should not do/think. Please keep any other such pompous and argumentative statements to yourself Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 To be honest you just come across as a know-it-all with your holier-than-thou statements. Obviously you just get off on lecturing other people all the time about what they should and should not do/think. Please keep any other such pompous and argumentative statements to yourself Richard No i don't, but on what possible grounds do you think a non EU resident have for filing a tax claim against an import duty paid by somebody else in another country......your logic seem to have gone out of the window "Richard" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 No i don't, but on what possible grounds do you think a non EU resident have for filing a tax claim against an import duty paid by somebody else in another country......your logic seem to have gone out of the window "Richard" Very few people can truly know how they come accross to others. You included. As evidenced by your "No I don't" statement. If a seller incurs a cost that is a legitimate cost off business they can record it against their business. I took Richard to mean that dealers here in the UK can write of the costs against their "profits" if they make any that is. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I was talking about the customs duty, not the record cost. It doesn't hurt to ask the seller, does it ? Richard has said "I am planning to contact the seller....." so obviously the seller doesn't even realise that Richard has had to pay this fee. It amounts to the same thing - a buyer going back to a seller and asking for some money back after the transaction has gone through. It's not like the record ain't in the same condition as described, or hisses or something. I doubt your average seller is going to agree to pay some money back, they'd probably think it was one of these chancers we keep hearing about. But if Richard has done it, then good luck to the fella. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Ged, lets look at the complete quote "Thanks for the advice Pottsy - I actually emailed the seller earlier today suggesting just that. I guess some sellers could potentially just pay the fees and write them off for business tax purposes? Anyone know for sure how it works in the US please?" Not sure how you have come to your conclusion as Richard has said he's emailed the seller asking him to perhaps contribute to the cost, and guessing potentially that he could write it off for tax purpose, why has he asked how it works in the states? I post a factual response and get accused of calling him stupid, unbelievable, some people find it easy to shoot the messenger, that's not my fault is it? Edited September 9, 2011 by julesp1905 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Ged, lets look at the complete quote "Thanks for the advice Pottsy - I actually emailed the seller earlier today suggesting just that. I guess some sellers could potentially just pay the fees and write them off for business tax purposes? Anyone know for sure how it works in the US please?" Not sure how you have come to your conclusion as Richard has said he's emailed the seller asking him to perhaps contribute to the cost, and guessing potentially that he could write it off for tax purpose, why has he asked how it works in the states? I post a factual response and get accused of calling him stupid, unbelievable, some people find it easy to shoot the messenger, that's not my fault is it? Has he really? Are you sure? I can't see that anywhere. I also can't see the seller agreeing unless they accept they are in part at fault for declairing it as a gift. Why would they? Edited September 9, 2011 by ged parker Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I doubt your average seller is going to agree to pay some money back, they'd probably think it was one of these chancers we keep hearing about. Why on earth would the seller think that Richard is some 'chancer' ? Granted, I don't know the fella, I've not seen his feedback on ebay, but unless you know different I can't understand why you have said this ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Why on earth would the seller think that Richard is some 'chancer' ? Granted, I don't know the fella, I've not seen his feedback on ebay, but unless you know different I can't understand why you have said this ? So let me put it this way ad make it simple to understand. You send me a record, the postie leaves a card. I have to drive over to Parcel force or the PO and I email you and ask for some money back for the costs I have incurred. You gonna give me some money back? Might be a much smaller scale than Premium Stuff's bill but the principle is the same. Imagine being the seller and then the recipient of that email asking for something back. Edited September 9, 2011 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Has he really? Are you sure? I can't see that anywhere. I also can't see the seller agreeing unless they accept they are in part at fault for declairing it as a gift. Why would they? well seeing that he thanks pottsy for his advice and confirms he has emailed the seller suggesting the advice given, i'm pretty certain he has asked the seller to contribute to the import costs. Like you, i also can't see the seller agreeing as they have no liability for these charges. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 This subject bores the pants out of me, have to deal with it on a weekly basis, people chasing after me down the street F..ing and blinding because i delivered them a grey card outlining charges due, like i've said, very easy to shoot the messenger, when you hear something you don't like, the fact remains if you import things from outside the EU, you could be liable for import tax, the majority of items don't get picked up, no point in crying on the occasions they do Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 ... i'm pretty certain he has asked the seller to contribute to the import costs. Well you are wrong abut that actually Like I said you are a right know-it-all This subject bores the pants out of me, have to deal with it on a weekly basis, people chasing after me down the street F..ing and blinding because i delivered them a grey card outlining charges due, like i've said, very easy to shoot the messenger, when you hear something you don't like, the fact remains if you import things from outside the EU, you could be liable for import tax, the majority of items don't get picked up, no point in crying on the occasions they do Well get off your high-horse and stop reading and posting about it then you sanctimonious *** Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Stop asking stupid questions then, US tax payers claiming back taxes paid by UK residents to the UK Government, Edited September 9, 2011 by julesp1905 insult removed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Stop asking stupid questions then, US tax payers claiming back taxes paid by UK residents to the UK Government, Now that really is insulting - that's where I thought you were going before with the "Richard" in quotation marks Shown your true colours now haven't you Richard Edited September 9, 2011 by chalky insult removed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Can you please edit your opening sentence as it makes no sense, or is this one of those puzzles where i have to re-arrange the words? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Can you please edit your opening sentence as it makes no sense, or is this one of those puzzles where i have to re-arrange the words? Makes no sense to you - but I'm sure anyone else on here would get it. With pleasure I have corrected it - check your own posts for corrections - there are several required If you want to continue to pick a fight with me I will be happy to oblige Richard Edited September 9, 2011 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Postman is a terrible job, always has been, I tried way back in 1986 and I couldn't hack it, the pressure was enormous and now that they've cut down on the staff it must be ten times worse. As usual, it's the poor old postman who gets it in the neck and not the bosses, and their bosses. Our post regularly arrives at 3pm. Never used to be as bad as this but some of them are having to do two sometimes three walks. So I really sympathise with any postmen. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Lfcjunkie Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 a bit different my case but in the early 90s i bought a $14 cd of a US website and paid appropriate postage week later or so i gets a card through the letter box to collect package at local fedex depot I was asked to pay some kind of payment there to which i told them to well put it bluntly -f*ck off-ive paid for the item and post etc already and i got my cd off them!A month later maybe i gets a letter of a debt collecting agency for about £30 vat and fedex charges so i rung the agency who threatened court action blah blah fucking blah i told they ain't getting it and it'll cost them more than £30 quid trying ie letters court threats all the bullshit they were gonna go through =and to put it bluntly-told em to f*ck off .I never heard another sniff off em I think they are chancing it if everyone pays they are making a LOT of money for nothing any way is 1second hand record subject t V A T I know what Id tell em to do..... all the best dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Stop asking stupid questions then, US tax payers claiming back taxes paid by UK residents to the UK Government, that's the actions of a real "Richardhead" Richard is a friend of mine.You've insulted him by bringing this topic to "all about you",and your argumentative posts. You quoted "people chasing me down the street" - i bet they are!! And not to pat you on the back.I'm not as polite as Richard. Clear OFF !!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Makes no sense to you - but I'm sure anyone else on here would get it. With pleasure - check your own posts for corrections - there are several required If you want to continue to pick a fight with me I will be happy to oblige Richard No fight from me, it's you who has attacked me after factually and legally correct posts i've made, and why, because you don't like the answer. Only so much you can take. Nevermind, just another a day at work for me. Pay your bill and get on with enjoying your record. think you've only got 26 days left to make your decision before it gets returned to sender, or is it 5, not sure on Parcel Force Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Richard is a friend of mine.You've insulted him by bringing this topic to "all about you",and your argumentative posts. You quoted "people chasing me down the street" - i bet they are!! And not to pat you on the back.I'm not as polite as Richard. Clear OFF !!! Thanks mate - appreciate the support as I think Jules is just out to provoke an argument - don't know why No fight from me, it's you who has attacked me after factually and legally correct posts i've made, and why, because you don't like the answer. Only so much you can take. Nevermind, just another a day at work for me. Pay your bill and get on with enjoying your record. think you've only got 26 days left to make your decision before it gets returned to sender, or is it 5, not sure on Parcel Force Just can't help telling me (and everyone else) what to do can you? Get a life you saddo Edited September 9, 2011 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 i had to pay £40 duty for my i walked away issue a few years ago,,,it cost me £100 but i would have piad £100 if i had to....bit of a bummer Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Can we knock the personal stuff on the head please, if you want to carry that side of the debate on take it to PM's. Again, stick to the topic of import duty. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 Point taken Chalky - but actually I don't appreciate effectively being called a dickhead on a public forum Can you moderate that please? Thank you Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Lol.I too deal with customer services.Empathy/sympathy with the "customers" (or in this case Richard's) predicament usually diffuses the situation if there's a disagreement,and prevents the situation from boiling over. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thank you for posting a private message on a public forum, though can't see any issue with what's been written, clearly you can't take the hint that it might be the time as the topic starter to close the thread, i wouldn't want to be accused of telling you what to do Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Lol.I too deal with customer services.Empathy/sympathy with the "customers" (or in this case Richard's) predicament usually diffuses the situation if there's a disagreement,and prevents the situation from boiling over. What solution? he either pays his bill, or the record is returned, it can't be more simple than that Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thank you for posting a private message on a public forum, though can't see any issue with what's been written, clearly you can't take the hint that it might be the time as the topic starter to close the thread, i wouldn't want to be accused of telling you what to do Have to agree here, well out of order posting a PM, Jules opening statement made me see red but let's play fair here! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Personal Message unapproved. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Personal Message unapproved. Quite happy to have the PM displayed chalky, nothing to hide. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Erm - I did not invite the PM thank you Seeing that i've done the customer focus course for Royal Mail which includes custom charges in detail, would like to think i am more than qualified to pass comment on the subject, you simply don't like what your hearing so chose to lambast me, why heavens know, i'm certainly not looking for a fight, it seems you are. Easy to insult someone with a keyboard, Don't you think you had more that enough answers to your question, all that elude to the fact that it's unfortunate but something you have to pay, You are the topic starter, is there anymore information that you think you can gather from leaving the thread open? Or do you wish to carry on with petty arguing over something you have the answers for? regards Julian It was a pro-active provocation after calling me a dickhead Can a mod please PM me so I know what I can and can't say within the SS forum rules etc. -either on forum or by PM Thank you Richard Edited September 9, 2011 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Jules, I know there is nothing to hide but in my opinion (and other Mods) it is out of order posting a private conversation without permission, thats why removed. Richard explained above re: PM. No need to PM you. Deleted the insults you asked about, all parties have from what I've read been just as provocative as each other at times. Either stick to the topic, leave the personal stuff off the site or the topic will be closed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Post removed, anymore and will close the topic, seems it has run it's course to me as the payment or non payment of import duty is not being discussed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 Jules, I know there is nothing to hide but in my opinion (and other Mods) it is out of order posting a private conversation without permission, thats why removed. Richard explained above re: PM. No need to PM you. Deleted the insults you asked about, all parties have from what I've read been just as provocative as each other at times. Either stick to the topic, leave the personal stuff off the site or the topic will be closed. I disagree Chalky - please PM me if you are able Thank you Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I disagree Chalky - please PM me if you are able Thank you Richard and say what exactly? The house rules can be found at https://www.soul-sour...use-rules-r1879 Now I've just finished a fifteen hour shift at work, I'm back in at 6 in the morning....I'm off to bed shortly. So as the topic seems to have run it's course and it is just petty to and froing I will close the topic for now, if when calmed down I will reopen it if members feel further discussion to be had. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 I sympathise Chalky and know the feeling Don't like being called a dickhead though and then being stalked by PM Please moderate when able to Respect as always Thank you Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
AlanB Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Sadly this discussion turned into an example of the Forum at its worst - starting with reasonable factual points (on both sides) but degenerating into personal attacks. Pity the thread has to finish leaving simmering resentment. Alan Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 PMs aside Come on Julie Now you don't want to play all of a sudden I am totally at your disposal Whenever suits you ... Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 enough thread closed sort it out via pms. emails or what ever anymore posts on this personal disagreement and action will be taken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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