Has Anyone Ever Seen A Demo Of

[Pauldonnelly]

Derek Martin Sly Girl?

[Guest MrC]

https://www..co.uk/product_detail.asp?id=15817

[pikeys dog]

I'm pretty sure that I've seen a WD on Volt (not the Lightning design - the other one) when on a buying trip in the US..

Although to be honest I can't prove this.

[Premium Stuff]

I'm pretty sure that I've seen a WD on Volt (not the Lightning design - the other one) when on a buying trip in the US..

Although to be honest I can't prove this.

I have a demo on blue Tuba and a WDJ on Volt as per the attached scan

Is this the lightning or non-lightning design

Cheers

Richard

[pikeys dog]

I have a demo on blue Tuba and a WDJ on Volt as per the attached scan

Is this the lightning or non-lightning design

Cheers

Richard

That's what I'd class as the Lightning design - the one I'm thinking of is the WD version of this label design:

[Premium Stuff]

That's what I'd class as the Lightning design - the one I'm thinking of is the WD version of this label design:

Would be nice on a WDJ that one

Cheers

Richard

[pikeys dog]

I'm pretty sure I held one - but the seller wanted 'too much' for it, and I left it as i have a UK one.

[Tony Smith]

I've got it on the "lightning design"

[Robbk]

The seller described that record as 2 Detroit sides, but I sincerely doubt that. Derek Martin was still living in New York in 1967, and his producer and had worked only wit NY writers/producers for many years at that time, despite having been originally from Detroit and, originally in a Detroit vocal group. His songwriter/producer, Teddy Randazzo, worked out of NY, and had standing gigs there as a performing band leader. I really doubt that he went to Detroit to work on that production. He had been Martin's latest producer for Roulette, recording in New York. I assume that Randazzo recorded both the vocals and instrumentals to these 2 Tuba cuts in New York, and through one of Martin's Detroit connections (someone he knew years before, when he worked in Detroit, He and Randazzo leased the masters to Tuba records. When I listen to those 2 cuts, I don't hear Detroit musicians.

Anyone here know who owned Tuba Records? I know their 1700 series (Navy Blue plain text labels) were distributed by Mike Hanks' MAH's Records. But, I'm sure they were at least partly (if not totally owned by someone else). I think that Hanks must have been at least co-owner, as all my 1700 series Tubas have MAH's Music as publisher.

Looking at the producer info., songwriters and music publishers on the post 1966 Tuba Records, one might think that the Tuba 1700 series was a Mike Hanks label, which ended in late 1962 or early 1963, and had nothing to do with the later Tuba (powder blue & graphic tuba player design on label), which ran from 1966-1967. But, I think it's too much of a coincidence that both were located in Detroit with only a 3-year gap. I think that Hanks had a money partner in The 1700 series Tuba, with Hanks handling A&R and being main producer, and the money partner reviving his label in 1966, WITHOUT Hanks, having no in-house production, and just picking up (leasing) productions by local Detroit, AND also East Coast (NY & Philadelphia) productions from independent producers.

Edited August 31, 2011 by RobbK

[Prophonics 2029]

I thought Vault and Tuba were different takes of the track, must listen again.