Prince George - Wrong Crowd

[Northern Soul Uk]

Hi all,

Does anyone know if Prince George - Wrong crowd was ever booted?

Just picked up a copy on D.P.G., Black with silver writing.

If it has been booted what are the differences please?

Thanks

[Guest OSCARP]

Hi...........I believe the originals are on vinyl and the labels are moulded on , the one you are showing is a boot

[Guest miff]

Yep and thats the boot in the pic Original is on vinyl

[Guest miff]

Beat me to it

[The Yank]

Not trying to hijack the thread but... does anyone know anything about the artist (real name), when the record was released or where the label was based? I've never had any luck with info on this one.

[boba]

Not trying to hijack the thread but... does anyone know anything about the artist (real name), when the record was released or where the label was based? I've never had any luck with info on this one.

I don't know this record, but if it's the same label, DPG was virginia / leni guess related.

[boba]

I don't know this record, but if it's the same label, DPG was virginia / leni guess related.

just looked at a cleaner scan in popsike, guess is one of the writers

[boba]

just looked at a cleaner scan in popsike, guess is one of the writers

also, btw, it's norfolk VA. I'm trying to find it in copyright now to tell you the year

[boba]

EU532893.

Wrong crowd, w Lenis Guess, m

George Perkins. 2 p. © George

Perkins & Lenis Guess; 12Nov74;

EU532893.

[Ernie Andrews]

One of my all time favs - Ive never had an original of this and wasnt quick enough when Dave Thorley had one. Never comes up on Ebay - What would be the going price for an original? Its not a fashionable record but brilliant IMO!

Thanks for the info Bob didnt realise it was mid 70s.

Edited August 24, 2011 by Ernie Andrews

[Ernie Andrews]

One of my all time favs - Ive never had an original of this and wasnt quick enough when Dave Thorley had one. Never comes up on Ebay - What would be the going price for an original? Its not a fashionable record but brilliant IMO!

[Pete S]

I've never had an original either. Comes in that bracket of great funky Northern dancers that were around in 75-76, Skullsnaps, Rufus Wood etc

[Ian Dewhirst]

I sold my original to John Vincent in the late 90's for around £60. It's actually really damn rare and one of those records that you just never seem to find. Very popular in it's day and sounds better to my ears then a lot of the newer funky stuff but I would say that wouldn't I lol.....

Ian D

[Mister Fish]

I would think £250 is probably closer to the mark nowadays. It's a real toughie to find.

[Northern Soul Uk]

I have been advised by a reliable source that the artist is actually 'Prince' or whatever name he goes under now?

Don't throw yer bottles at me, as I say I have been advised that it is, and the 'PG' in D.P.G. stands for 'Power Generation' as in 'New Power Generation' as in 'Prince & the NPG'?

What are your thoughts on that little gem then?

Armed and ready

[Tony Smith]

I have been advised by a reliable source that the artist is actually 'Prince' or whatever name he goes under now?

Don't throw yer bottles at me, as I say I have been advised that it is, and the 'PG' in D.P.G. stands for 'Power Generation' as in 'New Power Generation' as in 'Prince & the NPG'?

What are your thoughts on that little gem then?

Armed and ready

The D.P.G. stands for Deal, Perkins, Guess, they were the label owners.

[Northern Soul Uk]

The D.P.G. stands for Deal, Perkins, Guess, they were the label owners.

Kool, thanks, nice pussy btw

[Tony Smith]

[jocko]

I have been advised by a reliable source that the artist is actually 'Prince' or whatever name he goes under now?

Don't throw yer bottles at me, as I say I have been advised that it is, and the 'PG' in D.P.G. stands for 'Power Generation' as in 'New Power Generation' as in 'Prince & the NPG'?

What are your thoughts on that little gem then?

Armed and ready

I think you shouldn't be so trusting and you should learn to use google more!

[Northern Soul Uk]

No, I didn't beleive it either, which is why I posted it on here for the experts.

[Citizen P]

EU532893.

Wrong crowd, w Lenis Guess, m

George Perkins. 2 p. © George

Perkins & Lenis Guess; 12Nov74;

EU532893.

Prince George= George Perkins then.......

Simples

Tony

[KevH]

I've never had an original either. Comes in that bracket of great funky Northern dancers that were around in 75-76, Skullsnaps, Rufus Wood etc

Spot on Pete.Cliff Steele gave this a few spins earlier in the year at Lifeline,fitted in nicely.Knocks the "funk shouldn't be played" argument into touch.35 year old gem.

[The Yank]

Thanks to everyone for all the info !!

[KevH]

I would think £250 is probably closer to the mark nowadays. It's a real toughie to find.

Yes,had conversations about this recently - and that price bracket came up.

[boba]

No, I didn't beleive it either, which is why I posted it on here for the experts.

from all your posts I can't tell if you're a real person or a really awesome troll

[Northern Soul Uk]

from all your posts I can't tell if you're a real person or a really awesome troll

Oh! I'm a real person alright LOL!, anyway, trolls can't type

[Skegsoul]

Mo and me sometime play this, and have to say really does sound the dogs danglers!!! so,so right for now :thumbup:

[Guest Paul]

Hello

'Wrong Crowd' is an amazing record, I thought was first issued in 1970 rather than 1974.

Prince George was George Speller, not George Perkins (deceased).

Paul

[Samplat]

Went to Lennis guess's studio on 35th street in 76 and the guy we talked to in the reception area played base (i think) on wrong crowd. Arthur Fenn will be able to correct me if wrong

[Steve Plumb]

I was lucky enough to get an original on here a couple of years ago (first one i'd ever had)

Always sounded great back in the day to me and it seems to fit today's scene perfectly.

In fact it would sound good on a number of scenes (Northern, 70's, Funk etc)

Think it's being given new cult status and not before time!

[boba]

Oh! I'm a real person alright LOL!, anyway, trolls can't type

dude, you're not convincing me

[Northern Soul Uk]

LOL! sorry boba!

Thanks to all for your comments, this is a great tune, just managed to get this copy recently and glad I did.

[Dave Pinch]

i would have said maybe 1971/72 and not 74..i cant believe i once bought this from pat brady around 20 years ago for £20 blind coz it was a `classic`... never really did it for me.might have kept hold of it but never realised it would be that rare

[bri pinch]

.....a bit like james fountain on peachtree for 15 quid off mick smith eh! Bro

[Dave Pinch]

.....a bit like james fountain on peachtree for 15 quid off mick smith eh! Bro

maybe chore ..difference is james fountain is a great record lol.mind you we couldn`t keep hold of that one either

dave

[Weingarden]

The flip of this one is quite nice, too!

[JOE TORQUAY]

here's one for sale this afternoon

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KING-GEORGE-WRONG-CROWD-JAMES-FOUNTAIN-7-DAY-LOVER-/150652075190?pt=UK_Records&hash=item2313903cb6#ht_500wt_1010

[Ernie Andrews]

Ive got an original emi-disc with hang up your hang ups on the other side.

[Dave Pinch]

here's one for sale this afternoon

https://www.ebay.co.u...6#ht_500wt_1010

yeh gotta be worth a fortune that one lol

[Guest Kim Speller]

I know this thread is old. However Prince George is really George Speller. He worked for George Perkins for a period of time in exchange for a record production. He is mainly a song writer. He is alive and well and still living in Virginia. He's my husband. Also there were many bootleg copies of his record. 

[Frankie Crocker]

2 hours ago, Kim Speller said:

I know this thread is old. However Prince George is really George Speller. He worked for George Perkins for a period of time in exchange for a record production. He is mainly a song writer. He is alive and well and still living in Virginia. He's my husband. Also there were many bootleg copies of his record. 

Excellent news Kim. Wrong Crowd was bootlegged and the original release is very hard to find. Great record back in the 70’s and very popular at Wigan Casino. Please give my regards to George.

[Tomangoes]

So relevant to today

Anybody can be in a wrong crowd....

 

Ed

[Mike]

3 hours ago, Kim Speller said:

I know this thread is old. However Prince George is really George Speller. He worked for George Perkins for a period of time in exchange for a record production. He is mainly a song writer. He is alive and well and still living in Virginia. He's my husband. Also there were many bootleg copies of his record. 

thanks for sharing the info with us, appreciated 

[Tezza]

Yes it was.  Needs close inspection to tell the difference.  The text is more 'raised' on the original I believe and has a little more lustre

[Blackpoolsoul]

3 hours ago, Kim Speller said:

I know this thread is old. However Prince George is really George Speller. He worked for George Perkins for a period of time in exchange for a record production. He is mainly a song writer. He is alive and well and still living in Virginia. He's my husband. Also there were many bootleg copies of his record. 

Wow have been wondering about him for 30 years and his career

Can we have a short Bio about George and his history please as that would be great and any photos would be superb

[KevH]

A copy turns up now and again on ebay. Not in great condition though. Pulled from sale more than once.

[KevH]

On ‎31‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 06:26, Kim Speller said:

I know this thread is old. However Prince George is really George Speller. He worked for George Perkins for a period of time in exchange for a record production. He is mainly a song writer. He is alive and well and still living in Virginia. He's my husband. Also there were many bootleg copies of his record. 

Hi Kim, does George know how popular this record is among certain people over here?