Wife Swapping

[Jodie]

Just seen an advert for a programme about wife swapping and they were playing "Thanks For A Little Lovin" as the theme!!!

What is the world coming to (pun intended) LOL

Also, was standing in a queue today and there was a young lad stood in front of me with a wigan casino patch on his coat! looked suspiciously like he'd bought it like that. Wonder if spencers ad star jumpers are gonna be making a comeback this season?

Jodie

[grant]

yeah i heard the trends track too on the trailer the other night jodie. must be a lot of northern fans working in the media these days.

grant

[Dickytwang]

My next door neighbour asked me if I was into that Norman Soul last weekend, I told her it was Northern Soul and she replied " oh our Steve ( age 11 ) likes Norman Soul that must be something different "

Talk about Strange World !!!

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

My next door neighbour asked me if I was into that Norman Soul last weekend, I told her it was Northern Soul and she replied " oh our Steve ( age 11 ) likes Norman Soul that must be something different "

Talk about Strange World !!!

Of course our Steven might have been taking the Michael, as in the commonly used term in some quarters "Norman Soultrousers" meaning your baggy pant wearing man about town ;o))) Which often gets used to define the music as in Norman Soultrouser Music ;o))))

John

[Corbett80]

I think its atrotious that records of such quality can be mercilessly abused for the sake of a bit of cheap television. I know they mean more to us than the rest of the population (and we just have to live with it etc etc) but it still makes me want to hide behind a cushion with my teeth gritted when I hear a record like that plundered.

Felt similar when hearing The Delites on 4's Wife Swap. And when they splash Sue and Prestige stuff all over Changing Rooms and crap like that.

I can handle it when a record is used well and has been specifically chosen......one of the few cases is the use of Derek Martin's 'Daddy Rolling Stone' in 'Sexy Beast' with Winston. That was tastefully done and well chosen.

I don't subscribe to the idea that hearing a snipett of The Trends on a tacky ad for an even tackier programme will have flocks of new people eager to discover the scene. In fact it probably went mostly over their heads, therefore use Britney or some shite like that.

I'll be popping my soap box back in the van then.

Cheers

Joel

[Guest in town Mikey]

Maybe it is becuase they dont want to pay Britney's publishers £100 everytime the ad is shown.

They can take an obscure track 30 or 40 years old. Pay lip service to the BMI or whoever, and hang on to the cash.

Dont for one second expect that anyone who had anything to do with making that record saw dollar 1 from its use.

Tho I could be wrong.

Cynical (again) Mikey

[Gene-r]

Rather than "Thanks For A Little Lovin'", which I think was completely irrelevant and inappropriate, they could have done better by using any of the following for a documentary about wife-swapping:

IRMA THOMAS: (You Can Have My Husband But) Don't Mess With My Man

A C REED: My Baby's Been Cheatin'

THE LAVELLS: Share Him

DIONNE WARWICK: You Can Have Him

BIG JOE TURNER: Two Loves Have I

WILLIAMS & WATSON: Two For The Price Of One

SOUL SET, I Don't Want Her (But I Need HER!)

MILT GRAYSON: Your Old Stand By

THE CAIROS: Stop Overlooking Me

BETTY BAKER: Marching Out Of Your Life

...or would have it been better to ditch the Northern idea and used "Swing" music instead?

[Paul McKay]

Maybe it is becuase they dont want to pay Britney's publishers £100 everytime the ad is shown.

They can take an obscure track 30 or 40 years old. Pay lip service to the BMI or whoever, and hang on to the cash.

Dont for one second expect that anyone who had anything to do with making that record saw dollar 1 from its use.

Tho I could be wrong.

Cynical (again) Mikey

Nail and head Mikey!

Paul

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Get over it!!!! It's just a flash in the pan blink and it will go away. Personally i don't think it's a particularly bad thing especially when the use a quallliddy item like the Trends who knows, it's catchy enough to attract the odd new bod who may end up getting as much out of all this as we do!!!!!!!!! And who could begrudge them that ;o)))

JoT

[Dayo]

Joel

I respect your opinion; but that's just how we were in the seventies. I mean, pick up any copy of Blues and Soul from '70 onwards and you'll find someone complaining about over exposure of "our" music. I used to feel the same way, but these days I'm far more relaxed, and if anyone soul savvy media type wants to borrow some cool from the music we love, then God bless 'em.

My 13 year old daughter was even known to be humming "California Soul" a few days ago. I didn't brainwash her; though I've tried often enough. Colonel Sanders can take the credit for that. Ironic though, coz she's a vegetarian.

Nothing personal in these comments, like I say, respect your opinion.

[Guest]

Get over it!!!! It's just a flash in the pan blink and it will go away. Personally i don't think it's a particularly bad thing especially when the use a quallliddy item like the Trends who knows, it's catchy enough to attract the odd new bod who may end up getting as much out of all this as we do!!!!!!!!! And who could begrudge them that ;o)))

JoT

I don't think putting these tracks on TV will make anyone come along. For a start most TV viewers dont even realise its northern or soul.

I was talking to a chap in a pub saturday and he asked where we were all going.I told him the 100 club etc... and he said tell me a northern soul record that I will have heard and know.I said about the KFC ads and Frank Wilson in particular and he said he had never really paid attention the the music that went along with ads :-(

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Karen you underestimate the power of advertising

it is all subliminal seduction of the masses ;o))

[Corbett80]

Dayo> I work in the West End for advertising agencies editing their test adverts, and believe me, none of them are savvy when it somes to good music.

The reason its done is exactly what Mikey said. I understand there is nothing you can do to stop it (although I once managed to stave off the use of Marie Knight and Sugar Pie deSanto on something although I doubt they would have tested with those tracks on) but it still fills me with horror everytime I hear a great record used as filler or backing to some peice of banal television, like a man wallpapering for example.

Surely these records are worth more than that? If they are going to be used by the media by all rights they should be being lauded as great undiscovered peices of music (and the right money going to the right people) not treated as another bit of backing filler as you would with perhaps 'Shuddupayaface' or 'Pass The Dutchie'.

I know thats slightly in the realms of fantasy but its only because of the love of the soul records really.

Cheers

Joel

[Guest ShaneH]

With regards to the KFC ads my mate who has no interest in soul music has been inspired no end by these adverts. He has never eaten so much fried chicken!!

Personally it doesn't bother me what songs they use for whatever reason. A good song is a good song end of. It's not going to get thousands of people into the scene. However it may change the tune whistled by your window cleaner from 'Bat out of hell' to 'moonlight, music and you. That can't be a bad thing can it?

Shane

[Guest in town Mikey]

I'm caught between being annoyed and quite pleased.

I dont particularly like my fave records advertising dead animals in breadcrumbs. I think it cheapens it beyond belief.

But I quite like doing the washing up and rushing into the lounge because some TV prog has a tune on I like. As for keeping Northern Soul, underground or secret or whatever. There is a phrase about a locked stable door and a bolted horse!

If there are rooms at colleges with 20 somethings dancing to landslide just because it is a fun record to dance too, then i'm not too bothered about that. in fact i think its cool. It IS a fun record to dance to. Isnt that what Matt is doing in Leeds?? Good luck to him too.

Then there is the stuff about coming to designated soul nights and taking beer or cigarettes onto dancefloors, that needs to be addressed. But most of us are old enough to know how to be diplomatic in this case. (except Dave Rimmer who arranges the firing squad ;-) heh heh).

So all in all, I have an arse full of splinters so no darts for me this weekend.

Fence sitting Mikey.

[Supercorsa]

I dont particularly like my fave records advertising dead animals in breadcrumbs.

Isn't it a mix of 11 special herbs & spices? ;-)

[Guest ShaneH]

Isn't it a mix of 11 special herbs & spices? ;-)

As they say....start with the tender thighs, then the juicy breast and then put your greasy bone in the bucket. Sorry everyone. ;-)

Shane

[Little-stevie]

I think its called Norman soul because only people with wisdom are on this scene..they do call me the bastard son of Charlie Williams for jokes like that..bring back the wheel tappers and shunters please..this will give the southern types out there more ammo to throw at us northern folk me thinks..Got me coat and flat cap, off out to get some lard, we are frying tonight...

[Gene-r]

Best of order - thank you please Steve!!!!

Ahh - memories of Colin Crompton and his Wheeltappers & Shunters Social Club!!

[Little-stevie]

Hi Gene

Showing our age now...remember the strippers justbefore the break..never got to see them really, just at that moment there was a break for the adverts...Sounds like my life...take care...

[Guest]

Best of order - thank you please Steve!!!!

Ahh - memories of Colin Crompton and his Wheeltappers & Shunters Social Club!!

Didn't Colin Crompton record on Valiant, or was it Old Town.................

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Nahh it had to be Big Wheel didn't it LOL

[Gene-r]

Hi Gene

Showing our age now...remember the strippers justbefore the break..never got to see them really, just at that moment there was a break for the adverts...Sounds like my life...take care...

Hi Steve,

Never saw the strippers, mainly due to the fact I think that most of them mucked up the (un)dress rehearsals by losing grip of their zimmer frames!!

I do remember a regional punk programme in the South during 1978 called "Revolver" (did you get it in other regions?), which was recorded live, and featuered some of the best punk groups of the time, including an early line-up of Dire Straits before they went sensible. Hosted by Peter Cook, who always had a nubile wench sitting on his desk slowly attempting a strip. Yep - you guessed it! Even by the end of the programme, she was still well clad!!

Gene

[Haydn]

Ahh - memories of Colin Crompton and his Wheeltappers & Shunters Social Club!!

Quiet please!!! Gene,

I watched that recently on satellite especially for Brotherhood of Man's- "Reach out your hand".

That's a good groove on that tune, any body know who who wrote it?????

Also on the reruns (ooer!) was Adrienne Posta's acting in "Till death do us part".

Oh how I laughed,

H.

...........I'll get me remote control!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Of course our Steven might have been taking the Michael, as in the commonly used term in some quarters "Norman Soultrousers" meaning your baggy pant wearing man about town ;o))) Which often gets used to define the music as in Norman Soultrouser Music ;o))))

John

usually by the deluded who are into 'proppermoddensole' - stuff only released in the last fortnight by a lass who whines down her nasal pipes or blokes who sound as if they've caught their knackers on some rusty barbed wire :o))))

cheers

ps just love the new Sunburst Band and Wee Willie Walker LP's (but probably not propperormoddenenuff4some)