Popular Post Suinoz Posted August 1, 2011 Popular Post Posted August 1, 2011 This is the story you have all been waiting for since the record sold in John Manships auction a few weeks ago. It all started about 6 years ago when i met a lady through my then used car business. We got talking about the soul nights i ran with my lovely wife Sue and collecting and playing records. She was intrigued at the fact we still played vinyl in this c.d and laptop age and told me how her sister used to work for a record distributor here in Fremantle that closed down in the mid 70's. Her sister was responsible for all the promo discs arriving in W.A. before deciding whether or not they were an appropriate to get released in Australia. Bearing in mind that Austalian music tastes in those day's revolved around the heavy metal type sounds, very few ' soul records ' got distributed in any geat quantities. Yes there are several soul records on ' Aussie labels ' but they tended to be the more mainstream stuff. The conversation got very interesting when she told me about all the thousands of records that went to second hand / op shops after the closure of the company ( op stands for oppurtunity here ), same as charity shops in the U.K. Salvation Army et al. A lot also went to landfill. I then started to scour every second hand and op shop in and around the Perth area in the hope i would find some of this old forgotten stock. Obviously after some 30 plus years i was continually met with ' sorry we don't have any of those small records, only l.p's. The 45's some of the shops had were just 70's and 80's chart stuff that people had found in garage / house clearouts. I kept going and alway's said to Sue ' you never know there might be a Frank Wilson somewhere '. We can only hope! It was about 3 months ago whilst in a ' country town ' here in Western Australia i visited a second hand shop. They had everything from furnture, brika brak, clothing to car parts. When i asked the guy in the shop if he had any records, his instant reply was ' what you mean them old juke box things ' ? Nobody wants them anymore. There are a load of boxes out the back that have sat there for years, you can have a look through if they are any good to you. Once i had clerared a space of old furniture i found a dozen or so boxes, each containing about 500 records, some in sleeves and loads without sleeves just squashed together. They had most probably sat there untouched for the last 30 odd years as the boxes were taped up. Sue and i got to work sorting through them box by box. ( Does this sound familiar to some of you ? ). First promo that came out was a mint copy of Dena Barnes on Inferno. Sue then found a promo of Lou Ragland, Judy Street on Strider and our pulses were by then RACING to say the least. Next box contained some Motown stuff and a few Reggae tunes plus some quite obscure U.S labels and a few Aussie and New Zealand soul records. All in near mint condition. I then picked out the Nolan Chance, pulled it out of it's sleeve and to my amazement saw it was in mint, unplayed condition. It was hard to contain the excitement ! Crikey this is a BUNKY and i know of only one other copy that possibly Richard Searling had ! We continued searching and eventually ended up with about 50 records, most mint and a few that were out of sleeves and needed a good clean. There were stacks of 60's and 70's stuff that we left that were just too scratched to worry about. I had a chat with the shop owner about how he got the records and he said he couldn't recall where he got them from, only that they had been in the back of his store since about 1980 and he had another few thousand stored in his garage at home. This was probably some of the stock that i was told about some 6 years before.Unfortunately i couldn't persuade him to allow me to go and have a look through them but left him my number incase he ever decide to dig them out.I have spoken to him since and it seemed like he really couldn't be arsed. ' there's no money in them anymore '. Blimey if only he knew. Anyway we struck up a deal for the 50 records we did find and came away happy to say the least. I knew how rare the Nolan Chance was and to find an unplayed copy is the stuff of fairytales. That as they say is ' THE STRANGE WORLD OF NORTHERN SOUL ' Tony T Bone. OZ. 3 3
Kris Holmes Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 doesn't sound like a bad score for country town australia !! how much did you pay for the lot? hopefully you hooked the poor shop owner up with a bit more than $1 for the Nolan Chance
Suinoz Posted August 1, 2011 Author Posted August 1, 2011 doesn't sound like a bad score for country town australia !! how much did you pay for the lot? hopefully you hooked the poor shop owner up with a bit more than $1 for the Nolan Chance Let's put it this way Kris. He was a happy chappy cos we took some of ' them old juke box thingy's '. Didn't have to buy him a car or anything tho'. Don't book your flight cos we have been through every second hand store for a 500 kilometre radius. Wonder if there's a Frank Wilson in those boxes at his house eh ?? We may never know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ernie Andrews Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Well Done Tony- Its great to hear something like that ! It proves their is still some gold in them their hills!
Suinoz Posted August 1, 2011 Author Posted August 1, 2011 Well Done Tony- Its great to hear something like that ! It proves their is still some gold in them their hills! Thanks mate. Just got to wonder at what went to landfill. Apparently there were tons of ' unwanted ' brand new records. Time to get the shovel out me thinks !
Raresoul45s Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Great story Tony and one for annals of rare finds. Well done ATB Darren
Steve L Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Let's put it this way Kris. He was a happy chappy cos we took some of ' them old juke box thingy's '. Didn't have to buy him a car or anything tho'. Don't book your flight cos we have been through every second hand store for a 500 kilometre radius. Wonder if there's a Frank Wilson in those boxes at his house eh ?? We may never know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great story Tony, thanks for sharing that. Regarding the other records I can just see a story in the local newspaper "bizarre burglary at local mans house - thieves broke in and left all the valuable goods behind, just taking some old boxes of worthless old records- local police are mystified "
Suinoz Posted August 1, 2011 Author Posted August 1, 2011 Great story Tony, thanks for sharing that. Regarding the other records I can just see a story in the local newspaper "bizarre burglary at local mans house - thieves broke in and left all the valuable goods behind, just taking some old boxes of worthless old records- local police are mystified " Nice one Steve...if only mate !
Chalky Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Wonder if there's a Frank Wilson in those boxes at his house eh ?? We may never know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reckon it is safe to say no from what we know about the story of FW, certainly not in any left over from a distributor as it was never sent for distribution nor to any DJ or radio station. But you never know another copy may be lurking after finding it's way out of the pressing plant or even Motown. Great story though btw. Were you not disappointed with the final price it achieved, particularly considering the hype given to the disc when it came up for auction, how unique it was (when we know it isn't unique) but certainly a rare rare item? Anything else as rare in the stock you found?
KevH Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 A fantastic read Tony,the rest of us can dream on i suppose.
bri pinch Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 great story Tony, just goes to show if you dig long and hard, summat somwhere will turn up
Ged Parker Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Jealous as f**k here . If I'd have got them so cheap I couldn't have brought myself to sell any of them I don't think. Buying something very very cheap off someone who doesn't know what its worth for the pleasure of owning it is one thing but buying the same thing to sell would feel very different to me, maybe that's just me though. Anyway as I say very jealous here. Theres nothing like turning up that suprise treasure after much fruitless searching.
Chalky Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Aren't we all Ged (jealous that is)!! Tone, do you think you will ever get into the guy's house and the remaining stock? Does make you wonder what is left? Maybe you ought to give him an idea what could be in there, might give him some incentive to let you in?
Mick Sway Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 The "diggers" strike gold! After 40 years of trawling second hand and charity shops without turning anything up worth a light, I can only say good on ya! Nice one! Mick
Mrtag Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Tony, It might be worth upping the ante and offering him say 10 cents a record and 25cents for anything decent which of course you would feel duty bound to tell him well maybe!!
Ian Parker Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 just tried to find the auction but it seems to have gone. what was the final selling price? I saw a bootleg of this tune fetched 50 odd quid. nice one Tone, keep searchin mate.
Chris L Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Nice one, any chance of a label scan ? A Bunky got sold on Ebay about 5 or 6 years ago and I once saw one in the hands of Martyn Ellis one night at the Torch.
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Mmm. I think I'd be targeting the landfill sites....... Ian D
Raremusicdirect Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks for sharing the story.........chip away at the garage stuff, sure he will wilt eventually
Kris Holmes Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 yeah, phone the guy & politely ask about the records every 6 months until he changes his mind...... or tells you to never call him again. It's the only way.
Guest Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 for Chris l - for parkash - The winning bid was £ 2,687.00
Guest Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 The find of dreams Keep asking him about what he's got at home; he'll soon buckle
Suinoz Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 The find of dreams Keep asking him about what he's got at home; he'll soon buckle Have asked him several times but seems he is more concerned about selling second hand furniture than a few ' old jukebox records ' for 7 bucks each !!
Guest chorleybloke Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Tony - I've got nowt much to do for the next week or so, just email me his address & we can divvy up the proceeds when I get back Cheers Pete
Guest Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Tony -Great story and what a find Pleased for you only wished it had been me - but you put the work in and it paid off in the end
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Aren't we all Ged (jealous that is)!! Tone, do you think you will ever get into the guy's house and the remaining stock? Not if the guy's on Soul Source, he won't...
Colsoul Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 ive heared from a good source that its gone back to a ex pat in oz from carlisle ? anybody comfirm, col 1
Guest gordon russell Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Have asked him several times but seems he is more concerned about selling second hand furniture than a few ' old jukebox records ' for 7 bucks each !! then get in by buying a load of shite furniture off of him...........spratt to catch a mackerel ect ect
45cellar Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Stuff Dreams are made of, I love reading stories about record discoveries & this is awesome. Many Thanks for posting it.
kevinsoulman Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Have asked him several times but seems he is more concerned about selling second hand furniture than a few ' old jukebox records ' for 7 bucks each !! IF THE FURNITURE IS IN THE GARAGE BUY IT AS WELL KEV
Ian Seaman Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Not as nice as that Rolf Harris 45 i gave you at Skeggy tho Tone lol Ian.
Suinoz Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 IF THE FURNITURE IS IN THE GARAGE BUY IT AS WELL KEV If only Kev. When i said ' garage ' what i meant was ' his shed '. Trouble is a shed here in OZ ain't like your garden shed there ie 10 x 8 feet. It's gonna be more like 30 x 20 metres or nearly the size of a barn. He would more than likely use it to store excess stock ready to put into the shop. I haven't seen it but i can imagine it being that BIG. Heaven only knows where the other boxes are located and under / behind how much rubbish. I just have to hope he will call me one day and ask ' are you still interested in having a sticky beak at them old records? ' It will be worth the 3 hour drive just to sit there and have a sort through them, although i won't be going all excited as he might smell a rat.
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 Maybe the way to go, would be to charge him for taking all that vinyl junk off him? He may see the sense in that. Charge him a mere 200 Australian dollars to shift the vinyl crap and he could take you up on it. Stranger things have happened........ Ian D
Dave Rimmer Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Have asked him several times but seems he is more concerned about selling second hand furniture than a few ' old jukebox records ' for 7 bucks each !! Bite the bullet, offer to buy them all unseen. Just say you'll turn up and clear them all out of his way. You may get lucky, you may buy a few boxes of trash, but at least you can use the money you have already made off the Nolan Chance to buy them
Suinoz Posted August 12, 2011 Author Posted August 12, 2011 Bite the bullet, offer to buy them all unseen. Just say you'll turn up and clear them all out of his way. You may get lucky, you may buy a few boxes of trash, but at least you can use the money you have already made off the Nolan Chance to buy them Right the latest on this is...I have spoken to the guy several times over the last few weeks and lo and behold he HAS now agreed to let me go through the rest of the boxes that are stored at his place to see if there is anything more i am interested in. He reckons there are about the same number of records to sort through as were at his shop ( around 4000 ). No idea whats in them but it will be a pleasure to have a sift through, maybe next weekend. I will let you all know what i find. Tony T Bone. OZ.
Chalky Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Right the latest on this is...I have spoken to the guy several times over the last few weeks and lo and behold he HAS now agreed to let me go through the rest of the boxes that are stored at his place to see if there is anything more i am interested in. He reckons there are about the same number of records to sort through as were at his shop ( around 4000 ). No idea whats in them but it will be a pleasure to have a sift through, maybe next weekend. I will let you all know what i find. Tony T Bone. OZ. Nice one, good luck
Oldfeet Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 One day I would love to find a soulful 6TS vinyl stash that hasn't been cherry picked. Hope it's a great weekend for you
Swifty Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Right the latest on this is...I have spoken to the guy several times over the last few weeks and lo and behold he HAS now agreed to let me go through the rest of the boxes that are stored at his place to see if there is anything more i am interested in. He reckons there are about the same number of records to sort through as were at his shop ( around 4000 ). No idea whats in them but it will be a pleasure to have a sift through, maybe next weekend. I will let you all know what i find. Tony T Bone. OZ. I can be there in 3 Days ! if you need any help Swifty
Kris Holmes Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 I can be there in a day............ seriously though, hope it's not all Kamahl & Jon English 45s..... Good luck
Mr Smithy Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 It must be nice to go out knowing the odds of losing are the same as the everyday odds on winning. Good Luck
Guest soulmusicforever Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Not sure if he's still got it but I "gave" (sold for a quid or two) a Bunky copy to Ady Croasdell in about 75/76 which came out of a big wooden box (talk about treasure chest) that a Jamaican guy sold to me who at the time worked for Decca Records in London. Also in that box were two issue copies of Dena Barnes and Crazy Baby by The Coasters (unkown at the time) amongst others. Had to go bankrupt in June! Any chance of two grand for Nolan Chance Ady?
Gilly Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 What a great story,you have been well rewarded and i think blessed for all your hard work.Thanks for putting it up.Gilly and Nicola
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