The Next Oldies Dj's - Where Will They Come From?

[Wiganer1]

at the wigan days you had the oldies djs of steve whittle,brian rae, dave evison ,chris king and the like and 25 years later the same guys are still at the helm...

where do u think the next generation of all oldies djs will come from taking into account Brian is nearly 60!

views anyone?

[Guest Baz]

at the wigan days you had the oldies djs of steve whittle,brian rae, dave evison ,chris king and the like and 25 years later the same guys are still at the helm...

where do u think the next generation of all oldies djs will come from taking into account Brian is nearly 60!

views anyone?

Could always employ some Butlins Red Coats

[Guest the dukester]

at the wigan days you had the oldies djs of steve whittle,brian rae, dave evison ,chris king and the like and 25 years later the same guys are still at the helm...

where do u think the next generation of all oldies djs will come from taking into account Brian is nearly 60!

views anyone?

There are plenty of good dj's doing the rounds now with the tunes, they could easily do the job, whats in a name if hes got the records that the dancefloor react to??? Give a man a fish and all that!!!

[Guest miff]

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[Guest Dan]

i think the whole oldies/newies thing is close to farcical now.

it was relevant in the 80s, when guy and keb and so on were playing different style stuff and genuinely undiscovered sounds in volume; then you had a choice...guy and keb or, er, dave evison and chris king. easy choice, really!

now there are hardly any decent newies (certainly no-one can play a set of complete unknowns and you certainly can't go anywhere where most of the people won't know most of the records between them).

in a 35-year scene basically everything has been found and played at some point; thus everything is an oldie.

so, there are just good djs (who play lesser-heard and lesser-known stuff among the big records) and bad djs (who play worn-out, deadbeat, has-been, hammered-to-death tripe).

just to complicate matters, what's hammered to death today becomes, if it's left alone for five years, lesser-known and lesser-heard (but that's another story).

so in answer to your question there's no need for any new oldies djs - the need is for djs with imagination and taste.

Edited October 26, 2005 by Dan

[Guest Baz]

i think the whole oldies/newies thing is close to farcical now.

it was relevant in the 80s, when guy and keb and so on were playing different style stuff and genuinely undiscovered sounds in volume; then you had a choice...guy and keb or, er, dave evison and chris king. easy choice, really!

now there are hardly any decent newies (certainly no-one can play a set of complete unknowns and you certainly can't go anywhere where most of the people won't know most of the records between them).

in a 35-year scene basically everything has been found and played at some point; thus everything is an oldie.

so, there are just good djs (who play lesser-heard and lesser-known stuff among the big records) and bad djs (who play worn-out, deadbeat, has-been, hammered-to-death tripe).

just to complicate matters, what's hammered to death today becomes, if it's left alone for five years, lesser-known and lesser-heard (but that's another story).

so in answer to your question there's no need for any new oldies djs - the need is for djs with imagination and taste.

Your spot on Dan,

I term a oldies DJ scraping the barrel of records that were once big at such car park venues, annoucing over the mic "this was massive in the cathedral at 197blah, there rearest record in the world (which is not true) Spank Wilson"...................makes me cringe

Edited October 26, 2005 by Baz

[Dave]

Your spot on Dan,

I term a oldies DJ scraping the barrel of records that were once big at such car park venues, annoucing over the mic "this was massive in the cathedral at 197blah, there rearest record in the world (which is not true) Spank Wilson"...................makes me cringe

Which track of Spanky Wilson's is overplayed....

you young upstart?

[Guest Baz]

Which track of Spanky Wilson's is overplayed....

you young upstart?

Not Spanky Wilson Dave Spank Wilson = Frank Wilson

[Bitchdj]

well now there are those of us who like to play the semi known , little known stuff..i myself dj'ed at the northampton w/ender in the alternative room played nothing outrageous but stuff i like and deserves an airing..many peeps new little of what i played but that doesnt make me a superstar does it it just means we move in different circles...but...there will never be an upsurge in little known stuff again as in guy and keb @ stafford ...where are we sposed to play the stuff??? play anything not in the top 20 choons @ most venues and they walk off the floor ...some of the so called great oldies dj's are living off the back of a name they had in the 70's etc..and they seem to make no effort at all regarding breaking new or forgotten gems..maybe they will still be wheeling them on stage in their wheelchairs

so i dont want the job thank you very much i would rather play me fings in the dingy little second room to an appreciative audience

cookie

[Dave]

Not Spanky Wilson Dave Spank Wilson = Frank Wilson

Ohhh, thats what you meant?

Did I get it? Indeed I didnt!

[Guest Baz]

Ohhh, thats what you meant?

Did I get it? Indeed I didnt!

[Guest uroffal]

i think the whole oldies/newies thing is close to farcical now.

it was relevant in the 80s, when guy and keb and so on were playing different style stuff and genuinely undiscovered sounds in volume; then you had a choice...guy and keb or, er, dave evison and chris king. easy choice, really!

now there are hardly any decent newies (certainly no-one can play a set of complete unknowns and you certainly can't go anywhere where most of the people won't know most of the records between them).

in a 35-year scene basically everything has been found and played at some point; thus everything is an oldie.

so, there are just good djs (who play lesser-heard and lesser-known stuff among the big records) and bad djs (who play worn-out, deadbeat, has-been, hammered-to-death tripe).

just to complicate matters, what's hammered to death today becomes, if it's left alone for five years, lesser-known and lesser-heard (but that's another story).

so in answer to your question there's no need for any new oldies djs - the need is for djs with imagination and taste.

Great post Dan; sums this area up for me.

The term '60s Newie has little relevance to today's scene. In the 1980s - as you rightly point out - you had Keb, Guy, Pat Brady etc constantly finding 'new' records (the turnover was such that many records were played and dropped in the matter of a few weeks) most of which would be known to at least a few people at almost any event today. 20 - 25 years on there are fewer and fewer 'new' discoveries and those that there are tend to be unreleased (many exist only on master tape) or are so rare that only the lottery winners will ever be able to own (if copies ever surface).

As someone who has been away from the scene since the late '80s (and still don't attend) there are still plenty of things that are new to me, but looking through play-lists most are records I know or know of and an awful lot are very well-known. There were tons of things discovered in the '80s (and since) - many of which were hardly ever played; some never played which have remained 'collectors' records. Off the top of my head I can think of two records, currently being played by one or two top DJs that were quite well-known in collecting circles during the Stafford era, but that never quite made anyone's play-list (as far I can remember): The Stratoliners and Sharon McMann (Got To Find Another Guy) but are probably quite new to many. The point is that these are the tip of the iceberg there are so many others that would be new to many on the scene, and new to me for that matter, and it's about finding DJs with taste who are prepared to break these records instead of looking for big ticket items that everyone knows and/or played to death, available on every other compilation CD, established 'floor-fillers'.

[Guest vinylvixen]

Oh good, someone who appreciates Sharon McMann - Gotta find a new guy. My thanks and undying gratitude for Val Palmer pointing me in the direction of that tune. Val's been playing it for years and I've started putting it in every set that I do cos it's lovely My vote for current deejays would go to Lenny Dopson, Paul McKay and Hammy, Steve Csordas and Molly.......they all play an excellent balance of Country and Western........ Jo

Great post Dan; sums this area up for me.

The term '60s Newie has little relevance to today's scene. In the 1980s - as you rightly point out - you had Keb, Guy, Pat Brady etc constantly finding 'new' records (the turnover was such that many records were played and dropped in the matter of a few weeks) most of which would be known to at least a few people at almost any event today. 20 - 25 years on there are fewer and fewer 'new' discoveries and those that there are tend to be unreleased (many exist only on master tape) or are so rare that only the lottery winners will ever be able to own (if copies ever surface).

As someone who has been away from the scene since the late '80s (and still don't attend) there are still plenty of things that are new to me, but looking through play-lists most are records I know or know of and an awful lot are very well-known. There were tons of things discovered in the '80s (and since) - many of which were hardly ever played; some never played which have remained 'collectors' records. Off the top of my head I can think of two records, currently being played by one or two top DJs that were quite well-known in collecting circles during the Stafford era, but that never quite made anyone's play-list (as far I can remember): The Stratoliners and Sharon McMann (Got To Find Another Guy) but are probably quite new to many. The point is that these are the tip of the iceberg there are so many others that would be new to many on the scene, and new to me for that matter, and it's about finding DJs with taste who are prepared to break these records instead of looking for big ticket items that everyone knows and/or played to death, available on every other compilation CD, established 'floor-fillers'.

[Guest uroffal]

Oh good, someone who appreciates Sharon McMann - Gotta find a new guy. My thanks and undying gratitude for Val Palmer pointing me in the direction of that tune. Val's been playing it for years and I've started putting it in every set that I do cos it's lovely My vote for current deejays would go to Lenny Dopson, Paul McKay and Hammy, Steve Csordas and Molly.......they all play an excellent balance of Country and Western........ Jo

Was covered as Florence Miller - Make it Last in the '80s.

Val's always had good taste