KevH Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 This is not true. I read this here and announced it once on my radio show and was embarassed later. Anyways, the lead singer of Kings Go Forth is Black (and his name is "Black Wolf") and was part of some soul groups that didn't record in Milwaukee in the 70s. I stand corrected.Its was my understanding this was true.Has Danny Hernandez denied he sang on "You haven't seen my love",Bob.?
Godzilla Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 What???? You mean the vocalist isn't even black? Heaven forbid........... Ian D one of each I reckon Ian
Cunnie Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 And this is for the people who think the Cee Lo track sounds a bit familiar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUvddCEXNO4
KevH Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Just googled KGF Bob,of course you are right.Its Danny Fernandez on vocals...all this time i was wrong.....
Ian Dewhirst Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 And this is for the people who think the Cee Lo track sounds a bit familiar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUvddCEXNO4 Blimey. Didn't know that Mart. Mind you, I wasn't buying too many gay Disco albums in '79.......... Same producers as El Coco....... Ian D
Guest vertigoGo Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 You say that like it's a fact, when in reality, that's just your opinion. That is a fact and like it or not, it subtracts credibility from your statements. ok sorry maybe I should have put 'in my opinion' in the quote but I feel so passionate about this guys awful voice and its 'in my opinon' being cofused with being soulful, rather than a pastishe of a vocal style that reflects deep spiritual feeling, 'in my opinion.'
Ian Dewhirst Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 ok sorry maybe I should have put 'in my opinion' in the quote but I feel so passionate about this guys awful voice and its 'in my opinon' being cofused with being soulful, rather than a pastishe of a vocal style that reflects deep spiritual feeling, 'in my opinion.' Well considering that both of Cee-Lo's parents were ordained ministers and he started singing in church from an early age, I would suggest that he probably knows more about a vocal style which reflects deep spiritual feeling than most. In my opinion of course. Ian D
Simsy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Posted July 19, 2011 ok sorry maybe I should have put 'in my opinion' in the quote but I feel so passionate about this guys awful voice and its 'in my opinon' being cofused with being soulful, rather than a pastishe of a vocal style that reflects deep spiritual feeling, 'in my opinion.' That's okay mate, everyone entitled to their own opinion etc. Interesting you find his voice awful, but yeah, each to his own.
Little-stevie Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 "With regard to "funky newies" I think this was a path pioneered by Karl Heard (least in more recent times); and having heard him a couple of times and a few people there after playing such sets I'd say that the key to those sets is taking the audience with you...... A set that blends the right mix of Rare / Northern Soul with funky edged sounds can work superbly and whilst a good tune is a good tune (to the listener) regardless - a whole set of "left fielders" can leave the audience cold as they can't "hook" into it............" I think that pretty much all of the funkier sounds played at the 100 club so far have not been an issue with people - certainly 45s played by Butch such as Richard Marks, Charlene Soul Seranders ect have always gone down superbly. Obviously there is the odd sound that alienates people a little too far - i wouldn't of thought that BAOS was any funkier than say Earl English or the Dynamic Corvettes, both of which have been played regularly by DJs like Karl. The idea of playing a set of all newies is never conducive to a more conservative dancefloor (although there are plenty of places open minded enough for this to happen) , that goes without saying, but that wasn't the case here. I think this is more a case of one particular 45 getting someones goat. I should also point out that luckily the crowd did dance to the 45 in question!! Some very very good points there my freind...
Corbett80 Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) I feel sorry for the bad press that has now been thrust on (to my mind) a fantastic Detroit funk soul record Steve - one that may have a strong funk edged beat but great soulful vocals over it - hence why i thought it fair to play it in todays climate. I would hardly put it in the comedy party funk category - its not Do The Bus Stop for flip's sake! As Boba pointed out to if you want to hear REAL soul check the flip of BAOS 'Betrothal' out.....beautiful. The other sad thing is out of the limited crowd there that night (not due to the funk before any of you start ) most of them danced to it and a few had previously requested it, which was great to see imho. As one of the DJs its my job to try to get a balance right of what people want to hear across the board, alongside stuff you like yourself and hope to play to people. I always try to play what classic 60's stuff I have both mid and uptempo in the first set and try to be a bit more interesting in the second? Some 45s work, some don't - I had hoped maybe the 100 would be a place this might of (and thought it had on the night) - but onward ever upward, have to find something else with the funk toned down a tad - all part of the rare soul jocking game! Cheers! J Edited July 19, 2011 by corbett80 1
Simsy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Posted July 19, 2011 out of the limited crowd there that night Just want to make this clear that this thread has nothing to do with the last 100 Club allnighter. I didn't even know you'd played that awful record there!
Corbett80 Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Hopefully will get something out of the old box to tickle your fancy instead....! And a record you like (boom boom)
Steve G Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) Am I the only person that actually likes the Black Aces of Soul now then? Strewth! It's absolutely got a place at a Niter. Edited July 19, 2011 by Steve G
Winnie :-) Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Am I the only person that actually likes the Black Aces of Soul now then? Strewth! It's absolutely got a place at a Niter. I like it, not keen on the harmonies mind, but within the context of the thread, isn't it just the unlucky one that was put in the spotlight by Ian?
Guest john s Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Am I the only person that actually likes the Black Aces of Soul now then? Strewth! Not at all - great tune. Didn't know it, will be looking out for it.
Corbett80 Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) Maybe we could agree on a special handshake that 'funky soul' lovers can give at soul nights to alert each other to their presence, like the Masons? I'm going to try this on Butch at the next 100. Edited July 19, 2011 by corbett80
Simsy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Posted July 19, 2011 Hopefully will get something out of the old box to tickle your fancy instead....! And a record you like (boom boom) Instead of going for a cigg i, I'm gonna stick around and watch the funxsta's dance in future. Not expecting spins & floorwork, but just interested to see moves, beat etc..
Winnie :-) Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Instead of going for a cigg i, I'm gonna stick around and watch the funxsta's dance in future. Not expecting spins & floorwork, but just interested to see moves, beat etc.. '' I said oops upside ya head, I said oops upside ya head...........''
Ian Dewhirst Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 '' I said oops upside ya head, I said oops upside ya head...........'' Mmmm. Northern Soul funky formation dancing. Now that could spark a new trend....... Ian D
Guest Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Am I the only person that actually likes the Black Aces of Soul now then? Strewth! It's absolutely got a place at a Niter. Steve, I've made it quite clear earlier in the thread that I LOVE IT
Guest Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Instead of going for a cigg i, I'm gonna stick around and watch the funxsta's dance in future. Not expecting spins & floorwork, but just interested to see moves, beat etc.. I've already offered to show you my funky windmills!
Corbett80 Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) I saw people dancing in the usual stylee - certainly noticed a large degree of shuffling going on to The Apollos at Cleggy - in the main room as well! Edited July 19, 2011 by corbett80
Guest miff Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 I saw people dancing in the usual stylee - certainly noticed a large degree of shuffling going on to The Apollos at Cleggy - in the main room as well! Now your talking
Chalky Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Am I the only person that actually likes the Black Aces of Soul now then? Strewth! It's absolutely got a place at a Niter. Nope had a liking for it since I first heard it. Even included it on one of the Lifeline podcasts... https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/blog/
Corbett80 Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Where Adam heard it and asked me to play it the other weekend - this is all his fault as usual!
Dave Pinch Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 i think some of you are far too easily pleased in the name of progression dave
Steve G Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Nah Dave, I kow what I like and what I don't like by this stage of my life; I also have a reasonable pair of ears as well . Nothing to do with progression. It's about hearing exciting new records.....Steve 1
Dave Pinch Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Nah Dave, I kow what I like and what I don't like by this stage of my life; I also have a reasonable pair of ears as well . Nothing to do with progression. It's about hearing exciting new records.....Steve i know it is steve. but nothing good or exciting about the last 2 records . BAOS is a poor mans psychelic shack soundalike...and APPOLOS is a dull funk instrumental........got pace about them but thats all...not for me.is that the best we can do ..wheres the real stuff dave
Simsy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Posted July 19, 2011 I've already offered to show you my funky windmills! You're no Keb Darge love.
Tim Smithers Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 I saw people dancing in the usual stylee - certainly noticed a large degree of shuffling going on to The Apollos at Cleggy - in the main room as well! Both sides played at Hip city, Berlin to a full floor, think a lot of people are still narrow minded in uk 1
bri pinch Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 think that might have something to do with the local brew tho tim bri pinch
Geeselad Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Now I can see that apollas working at a nighter, certainly not dull to these ears.
Tim Smithers Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 think that might have something to do with the local brew tho tim bri pinch Cud be Bri
Geeselad Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Nope had a liking for it since I first heard it. Even included it on one of the Lifeline podcasts... https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/blog/ good tune wouldnt like to dance to many at that pace though!
Marc Forrest Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Both sides played at Hip city, Berlin to a full floor, think a lot of people are still narrow minded in uk yes, some of the "funkier" tunes are well received by our punters over here. Not so much the local brew the cause though as except for Becks and Budweiser (which are not local brews) they only serve Irish and Engllish brews at the Oscar Wilde...it seems to be more a case of them being indeed willing to accept the one or two new tunes being aired without geting (too) annoyed Thankfully.
Philt Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 i know it is steve. but nothing good or exciting about the last 2 records . BAOS is a poor mans psychelic shack soundalike...and APPOLOS is a dull funk instrumental........got pace about them but thats all...not for me.is that the best we can do ..wheres the real stuff dave Absolutely spot on IMHO
Dave Abbott Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 I saw people dancing in the usual stylee - certainly noticed a large degree of shuffling going on to The Apollos at Cleggy - in the main room as well! I've been playing both sides to good reaction
Steve G Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 i know it is steve. but nothing good or exciting about the last 2 records . BAOS is a poor mans psychelic shack soundalike...and APPOLOS is a dull funk instrumental........got pace about them but thats all...not for me.is that the best we can do ..wheres the real stuff dave Must admit the Appolos isn't a favourite.....filler material
Dave Abbott Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Must admit the Appolos isn't a favourite.....filler material i totally disagree; but then its all personal. what did suprise me is that Sam favours this side over Waymond Hall
Tim Smithers Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 I've been playing both sides to good reaction Remember Dave, you dont like inst
KevH Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 yes, some of the "funkier" tunes are well received by our punters over here. Not so much the local brew the cause though as except for Becks and Budweiser (which are not local brews) they only serve Irish and Engllish brews at the Oscar Wilde...it seems to be more a case of them being indeed willing to accept the one or two new tunes being aired without geting (too) annoyed Thankfully. Open minded,blank canvasses.Sometimes knowledge and history can be baggage that holds you back.
Dave Abbott Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Remember Dave, you dont like inst yes I know mate, i know; usually i have no time for them - but i love this one
Guest Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 i totally disagree; but then its all personal. what did suprise me is that Sam favours this side over Waymond Hall Waymond is waaaay better
Dave Abbott Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) Waymond is waaaay better Yes but the Apollos is still a kicking record Edited July 19, 2011 by Dave Abbott
Raremusicdirect Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 yes, some of the "funkier" tunes are well received by our punters over here. Not so much the local brew the cause though as except for Becks and Budweiser (which are not local brews) they only serve Irish and Engllish brews at the Oscar Wilde...it seems to be more a case of them being indeed willing to accept the one or two new tunes being aired without geting (too) annoyed Thankfully. That's exactly as I read it Marc - the crowd prepared to give things a go, came with open minds and danced to whatever felt right, created a very relaxed and non-judgemental atmosphere - it was very refreshing ................... It was also noticeably a more mixed and younger crowd............ Just keep doing what you do
Marc Forrest Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Open minded,blank canvasses.Sometimes knowledge and history can be baggage that holds you back. understand what you mean and apreciate it, must say though that with some being regular punters for a period over 21 years and of course attening other venues too they are not that blank anymore.. furthermore I have to admit that not everybody is totally happy with the funkier tunes..some prefer the more traditional sounds. still they dont moan and accept these tunes as they simply relax and wait for the next more appropriate tune 1
Marc Forrest Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 That's exactly as I read it Marc - the crowd prepared to give things a go, came with open minds and danced to whatever felt right, created a very relaxed and non-judgemental atmosphere - it was very refreshing ................... It was also noticeably a more mixed and younger crowd............ Just keep doing what you do cheers, we will try to do our best
Corbett80 Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) "i know it is steve. but nothing good or exciting about the last 2 records . BAOS is a poor mans psychelic shack soundalike...and APPOLOS is a dull funk instrumental........got pace about them but thats all...not for me.is that the best we can do ..wheres the real stuff dave" But would you rather hear Cee Lo Green at a nighter? Edited July 20, 2011 by corbett80
KevH Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 understand what you mean and apreciate it, must say though that with some being regular punters for a period over 21 years and of course attening other venues too they are not that blank anymore.. furthermore I have to admit that not everybody is totally happy with the funkier tunes..some prefer the more traditional sounds. still they dont moan and accept these tunes as they simply relax and wait for the next more appropriate tune Should have added "Blank canvasses" as a positive.. 1
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