Premium Stuff Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) just off topic a little.. did any one realise that the bee jays, i`ll find you on prime came out with two different label designs and one is 20 seconds longer than the other dave Yes Dave There's a thread (or two) on here somewhere with the details - label scans etc. Cheers Richard Edited August 13, 2011 by Premium Stuff
Dave Moore Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Andy, Are these the same as the released versions? Regards, Dave
Chalky Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Yes Dave There's a thread (or two) on here somewhere with the details - label scans etc. Cheers Richard Prime and Prime Records. here's the topic
Andy Rix Posted August 14, 2011 Author Posted August 14, 2011 Andy, Are these the same as the released versions? Regards, Dave Essentially yes .... obviously different vocal takes but not different enough to really notice Andy
Guest sharmo 1 Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 I'm just sorting through my studio discs my son will put them on here as I'm crap with computors but I've found a seven inch jobete company acetate with spellbound on it femail artist and backing can any one shed any light on who it is I got this one from Pete Lowry any help would be apreaciated regards Simon.
Dave Moore Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 I'm just sorting through my studio discs my son will put them on here as I'm crap with computors but I've found a seven inch jobete company acetate with spellbound on it femail artist and backing can any one shed any light on who it is I got this one from Pete Lowry any help would be apreaciated regards Simon. I'm just sorting through my studio discs my son will put them on here as I'm crap with computors but I've found a seven inch jobete company acetate with spellbound on it femail artist and backing can any one shed any light on who it is I got this one from Pete Lowry any help would be apreaciated regards Simon. I think Martha Reeves did a song called Spellbound that was knocking about in the late 90s. Regards, Dave
Guest sharmo 1 Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 That's it Dave backing is very simular to Heatwave very greatful regards Simon.
Guest turntableterra Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 some very interesting items being posted, heres some from my collection, both have kansas city on the other side, thoughts are that may have been written for bobby gentry.
Amsterdam Russ Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 A couple of recent additions. The Ramblers acetate isn't a soul track - it's an R&B number from 1956 that was recorded for Federal but never got released until it was put on a CD compilation not so long ago. I include it here though as a few years later The Ramblers evolved into The Falcons.
Jordirip Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 Wow,i like the Jimmy Burns, brilliant tune, the Dispo is a tough one let alone the acetate, hats off to you. Brett That used to be mine Brett. It was apparently Jimmy Burns' own personal copy. It is a rawer mix than the released Dispo 45. I traded it with Vince as part of a deal one night at Prestatyn. I wish I hadn't let it go really, especially for what I got for it. Jordi
vince ayres Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 That used to be mine Brett. It was apparently Jimmy Burns' own personal copy. It is a rawer mix than the released Dispo 45. I traded it with Vince as part of a deal one night at Prestatyn. I wish I hadn't let it go really, especially for what I got for it. Jordi I would probably sell for £500, any takers?
Robbk Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) Andy, - That acetate is the same title and same Columbia pressing plant code # as the Diane Lewis cut that was released on Golden World-distributed Love Records. It was published by Myto Music, and "acted" like a Golden World subsidiary label. I guess that Ed Wingate and Joanne were, at least co-owners with someone else on Love, if not sole (100%) owners. Does anyone here know why that record was released on Love, and not on Golden World, Ric Tic or Wingate? Could it be that Lewis' manager or another party partly financed it? Edited August 19, 2011 by RobbK
Andy Rix Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 Robb Here's the flip with 'Diane Lewis' written on in pen. The track was produced by Andrea Henry. This acetate came out of Herman Griffin's garage ... so did Andrea & Herman have some ownership of 'Love Records' Andy
Robbk Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 Robb Here's the flip with 'Diane Lewis' written on in pen. The track was produced by Andrea Henry. This acetate came out of Herman Griffin's garage ... so did Andrea & Herman have some ownership of 'Love Records' Andy Andrea Henry is listed as the producer on Love Records. H &A Productions (Herman and Andrea) is listed as the Production co. who leased to Wand Records for its national dist. deal. The producer listed on that one is Herman Griffin and Andrea Henry. Griffin was known to have owned labels-AND, more importantly, he had possession of the acetate. I suspect that Love Records was co-owned by Golden World (Ed Wingate/Joanne Bratton (Jackson)) and Herman Griffin (or H &A Productions, with Henry included), and operated as a Golden World subsidiary.
boba Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 Picked this up long time ago... this was on ebay recently, right? my friend has a 10" acetate of toss a coin with no artist listed, he had it since the 80s and we never knew who it was until this 4 song acetate was on ebay
Manfromsoul45s Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 this was on ebay recently, right? my friend has a 10" acetate of toss a coin with no artist listed, he had it since the 80s and we never knew who it was until this 4 song acetate was on ebay No. That was one with the "which way" but not "rescue" on it. I have had this years..
boba Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 No. That was one with the "which way" but not "rescue" on it. I have had this years.. ok thanks. but it had "toss a coin" on it which is how I was able to identify the unmarked 10" acetate
Marc Forrest Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) A couple of recent additions. The Ramblers acetate isn't a soul track - it's an R&B number from 1956 that was recorded for Federal but never got released until it was put on a CD compilation not so long ago. I include it here though as a few years later The Ramblers evolved into The Falcons. hi russel, wolfgang (.."loma") was at my place for another of our bi-weekly vinyl jour fix just until a few moments ago...funny we just had that topic and he mentioned your acetates while I was playing the fabulous playboys 45s I have..who later became indeed the Curlis Monroe Falcons. Hope youre fine, atb marc Edited August 23, 2011 by Marc Forrest
Marc Forrest Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) [ No. That was one with the "which way" but not "rescue" on it. I have had this years.. true. Edited August 23, 2011 by Marc Forrest
Amsterdam Russ Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 hi russel, wolfgang (.."loma") was at my place for another of our bi-weekly vinyl jour fix just until a few moments ago...funny we just had that topic and he mentioned your acetates while I was playing the fabulous playboys 45s I have..who later became indeed the Curlis Monroe Falcons. Hope youre fine, atb marc Thanks, Marc. All is good here. Yes, got a link to the Fabulous Playboys 45 during our emails about the group/acetate. As I said to him - I WANT IT!!
Ady Croasdell Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 A couple of recent additions. The Ramblers acetate isn't a soul track - it's an R&B number from 1956 that was recorded for Federal but never got released until it was put on a CD compilation not so long ago. I include it here though as a few years later The Ramblers evolved into The Falcons. That's nice Russell, they changed the song name to I'll keep Holding On. Joe Evans had quite a few Bell Sound acetates
Marc Forrest Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 ... As I said to him - I WANT IT!! ...let me know via pm if you like what exactly...as he didnt mention any wish of yours
Andy Rix Posted September 10, 2011 Author Posted September 10, 2011 Jobete acetates from Brenda, Kim. Liz Lands and an unnown NY group doing the demo for the Exotics 45 on Coral
Robbk Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) Any chance of my hearing the recording on the "Exotics' cut"? Maybe I can help identify the group? It had to be a group with some relationship to George Kerr, Sidney Barnes, George Clinton, Gene Redd, or Eddie Singleton. Maybe it was The Serenaders, Parliaments, Prophets or one we know is related to those producers. We can make an educated guess at the identity of the producer, based upon the songwriter/s. George Kerr, Sid Barnes and Luke Gross wrote "Let's Get Together". So, I'm guessing that The Serenaders may have sung that demo. As you didn't mention The Serenaders as a guess, I assume that perhaps Timothy Wilson (whose voice is easily recognisable didn't sing lead on that one. Maybe George, himself, sang lead on it? Edited September 10, 2011 by RobbK
Windlesoul Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Picked this nice one up this week, Otis (Leavill) Cobb - Gotta right to cry - Universal acetate Edited March 27, 2012 by mark w.
Quinvy Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Waiting for Butch to post, with baited breath.........
Amsterdam Russ Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Posted this up elsewhere recently, but it's worthy of this thread, methinks... A Bell Sound acetate of The Toys "I got a man" credited to lead singer Barbara Harris. Not released in the US on 45.
Windlesoul Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) Linda Lewis - Turned my bitter into sweet / Do you believe in love - Polydor Acetate Flip needs playing out, fantastic. Edited March 28, 2012 by mark w.
Windlesoul Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 How do you add a scan? Ady, click more reply options (not fast reply) and upload button at the bottom
Ady Croasdell Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Nice one, it must have been scheduled for a UK release!
Bigsoulman Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Nice one, it must have been scheduled for a UK release! Got this from Pete Smith a while ago Ady, and couldn't understand why an RCA release was done on Decca in the UK, any ideas? a one off I'm told Lenny
Ady Croasdell Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Thanks Mark, got it now though I'll forget it by the next time I need it! That's the publisher's acetate for Lorraine's You Only Live Twice
Ady Croasdell Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Got this from Pete Smith a while ago Ady, and couldn't understand why an RCA release was done on Decca in the UK, any ideas? a one off I'm told Lenny Decca pressed for UK RCA at that time 1
Windlesoul Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Cletus Marland - Every now and then - Terry / Geneva destined
Sean Hampsey Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Ultimate Classic on acetate. Will aim to upload more at the weekend! Great thread. I do love me acetates. Sean
Amsterdam Russ Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Gotham City acetate for "You're really getting to me" by Jonelle Allen. I believe the song is unreleased, but do let me know if that's incorrect. She made a name for herself on Broadway before crossing over to movies and TV. She appeared in a few films including Cotton comes to Harlem. TV credits include Police Woman, Love Boat, Hill Street Blues and Cagney & Lacey. Her biggest role was as the character Grace in the series, Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman!
Pete S Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Got this from Pete Smith a while ago Ady, and couldn't understand why an RCA release was done on Decca in the UK, any ideas? a one off I'm told Lenny Decca manufactured and distributed RCA in the UK mate, and that is one record I really regret selling! 1
Mark Jones Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) Ultimate Classic on acetate. looking very similar but rather a few years on! 10 incher too...oooh matron! Edited March 28, 2012 by soulechoes 1
Dylan Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 I think that's a slightly different topic - they're talking about original studio acetates here, the ones you've got were made to order in 1975. are there legit emi discs as well as the made to order ones ? there are quite a few scans of emi discs in the thread and i always thought they were all boots but it might be some of them are real ?
Amsterdam Russ Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 Emidisc is just the name of a UK brand of the metal-plated lacquered disc known as acetates. Acetates were legitimately produced for a number of reasons by record companies. For example: * to demonstrate songs for other artists/producers * as reference copies for producer/artist/record company staff before a track is released * as samples of potential releases. Record execs would meet and listen to acetates (emidiscs) and decide what would get (or not get released) * as advance promotional copies to send out to radio djs and get airplay (and thus interest) before a track gets officially released * to record one-off tracks, for example, a special version of a song that gets used in a TV show. The Northern Soul scene (and others) used emidiscs and other branded acetates because they were easy to make if you had a cutting machine. Exactly as you say, emidiscs could be made to order. The emidiscs in this thread are all 'real' as you put it. Well, I can vouch for the ones I've added
Ernie Andrews Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) some interesting ones from me The Dynamics is the Free landing Album released on Cotillion Edited March 29, 2012 by Ernie Andrews
Windlesoul Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) Another one from me, one of the Manhattan's Carnival releases (#509)...... Edited April 10, 2012 by mark w.
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 is that the first soussan acetate..with added sounds or the original?
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