Gene-r Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 The debate on the Javells post regarding black NORTHERN soul v white NORTHERN soul really got me thinking, and relating the differing views to my 27 years on the scene. I like to think that NORTHERN soul music is as diverse as the people who listen to it and buy the music . I thought that the previous thread of mine would have run its course, but it seems quite a few of us are happy to keep the chat on this subject going, so here I am again - complete with amendments. Here's my list of blue-eyed NORTHERN soul faves - obviously it will always be far from complete, as there is so much out there, but these for me are the more outstanding ones: THE MARTELLS: Where Can My Baby Be THE DEADBEATS: No Second Chance THE MODS: Dry My Eyes BOBBY PARIS: I Walked Away GARY SOL'E: Holdin' On TONY COLTON: I Stand Accused MARK LOYD: When I'm Gonna Find Her LYNNE RANDELL: Stranger In My Arms B J THOMAS & THE TRIUMPHS: Keep It Up THE BUCK ROGERS MOVEMENT: Take It From Me Girl JOANNIE SOMMERS: Don't Pity Me ROCK CANDY / CONTEMPLATIONS: Alone With No Love (I'm assuming it's white) NICKY JAMES: So Glad We Made It STEVE ALDO: YOu're Absolutely Right THE SEVEN SOULS: I Still Love You (bearing in mind the 50-50 mix of black and white in the group) THE TEMPESTS: Just about anything they've committed to vinyl (and yes, I know Hazell Martin is a black singer!) Be interested to get a cross-section of views on the above, and also to hear what your fave blue-eyed NORTHERN soul tunes are. Would also be nice to hear some interesting stories behind the records, if anyone has them. PS: Anyone posting on here with the sole intention of being obstructive, DO ONE NOW. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
Pete S Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 What's the Nicky James record Gene, never heard of it! British I presume, so a double slap on the wrist for me.
Gene-r Posted July 7, 2011 Author Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) What's the Nicky James record Gene, never heard of it! British I presume, so a double slap on the wrist for me. Hey Pete - yep it's British and it's on Philips. It's a '67 release, and is the B-side of "I Need To Be Needed". Pete Myles used to play this covered up as (wait for it), "So Glad" by Bobby F*knoze (yes I'm serious!). I think Nicky James had some involvement with the Moody Blues before they hit with "Go Now". His group, The Nicky James Movement, originally consisted of John Bonham (Led Zepplin), Bev Bevan (ELO) and Mike Pinder (Moody Blues). Sadly, he died in 2007 after a long illness. Couldn't find a clip of this on YouTube, else I'd have posted it here for you. Wonder if it's in Refosoul? Edited July 7, 2011 by Gene-R
Gene-r Posted July 7, 2011 Author Posted July 7, 2011 Bobby Samson - don't leave - sublime and others by him Same guy who did "Happiest Day of My Life" on Acta, Ken?
Guest Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Same guy who did "Happiest Day of My Life" on Acta, Ken? Yeh, Liverpudlian too!!
Cunnie Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 God I hate the term 'blue eyed soul'. Could someone please tell me why every single white soul singer has to have blue eyes? Suppose David Bowie had a hit on the Northern scene, would we refer to him as a blue & brown eyed singer???
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 One that I got turned on to not so long ago is 'Loser' by New Dawn on Mainstream. I think they were a white prog/folk rock band. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGynYSTvz0c
Gene-r Posted July 7, 2011 Author Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) God I hate the term 'blue eyed soul'. Could someone please tell me why every single white soul singer has to have blue eyes? Suppose David Bowie had a hit on the Northern scene, would we refer to him as a blue & brown eyed singer??? Cunnie, you've got to call it blue eyed NORTHERN soul, otherwise it annoys a pedantic minority here......... Edited July 7, 2011 by Gene-R
Gene-r Posted July 7, 2011 Author Posted July 7, 2011 Timi Yuro. Not a blue eye in sight. You're not wrong there. But the term "brown eyed NORTHERN soul" wouldn't quite have the same ring to it!
arnie j Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Bobby Samson - don't leave - sublime and others by him great call bud,brilliant soul tune,love it jason
Guest Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Timi Yuro. Not a blue eye in sight. That as to be her worst album,glad i only pay'd a quid for it .
shute Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) DAWN GLASS - NO SECOND THOUGHT -ABC PARAMOUNT Country & Western singer very soulful and a dancer as well not on youtube - but in my collection of northern Edited July 7, 2011 by shute
Brav Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Pal Rakes & The Prophets - Can't Deny The Hurt Another country singer with Soul
purist Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Anything by The Magnificent Men, but especially Keep On Climbing & Forever Together. Staying with Capitol, The Outsiders made some great floor packing Northern tunes.
bri pinch Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwCHhoVRbgY SOME BLOO EYED 60T'S AND 70T'S BRI PINCH Edited July 7, 2011 by bri pinch
Guest SoulNinja Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Franki Valli & The Four Seasons - The Night. A boring choice for many but I only started going to nighters last year. Wicked bassline, can't wait to hear it out one day. Jem
Guest Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 love this bloo eyed ditty BRI PINCH Her version of "more today than yesterday" is nice And this
Guest garysoul82 Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 I think the black artists around at their time definetly had a big influence on the music they were trying to produce. Motown and RNB seemed more influencial on some young americans than the beach boys etc ,thats why you have got so many white northern soul classics .
Steve L Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Kris Peterson - Just As Much (Top Dog) - TUNE!! kris is on facebook by the way if anyone wants to get in touch
purist Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 How about " King For A Day / Angelina " Stewart Ames ? great shout on Toni Basil btw
Craig W Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 The Contessas - Keep on keepin' on - E George clements 402. Bought this record assumed it was a black group when I heard it but was very surprised to find its blonde haired blue eyed soul of the highest order when I saw this video on You Tube. The lead singer suzanne Weir has a beautiful voice. Think there are a few label variations.
Pete S Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 The Contessas - Keep on keepin' on - E George clements 402. Bought this record assumed it was a black group when I heard it but was very surprised to find its blonde haired blue eyed soul of the highest order when I saw this video on You Tube. The lead singer suzanne Weir has a beautiful voice. Think there are a few label variations. Brilliant track, and so is the other side as well
Citizen P Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Following myconversation with Salmon earlier, one from either end of the spectrum............................ Turley Richards- I Feel Alright & Cherry People- And Suddenly... I'll let you good folks choose at which end each sits Tony
Craig W Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Brilliant track, and so is the other side as well Whats this fetching nowadays Pete. Was around £25.00 a few years back but was a hard record to shift for some strange reason.
Guest garysoul82 Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 brilliant record,also another great record called peace pipe.
Guest Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Following myconversation with Salmon earlier, one from either end of the spectrum............................ Turley Richards- I Feel Alright & Cherry People- And Suddenly... I'll let you good folks choose at which end each sits Tony Would not mind a T Richards got cherry people LP i like that as well.
Citizen P Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Would not mind a T Richards got cherry people LP i like that as well. Got to put me hands up to owning that LP meself, as has been said before-it was of it's time...... Tony
Little-stevie Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 A topic of interest to many i should guess.. Will get the thinking cap on for tomorrow.. Look forward to hearing something old, something new and something blue ..
Guest Preems Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 How about " King For A Day / Angelina " Stewart Ames ? great shout on Toni Basil btw Stewart Ames was white?
Billy Freemantle Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 The Contessas - Keep on keepin' on - E George clements 402. Bought this record assumed it was a black group when I heard it but was very surprised to find its blonde haired blue eyed soul of the highest order when I saw this video on You Tube. The lead singer suzanne Weir has a beautiful voice. Think there are a few label variations. This post has made this thread worthwhile. According to Jimmy Webb: "The Contessas were my pet project, all white and all blonde, the cream of the crop...all dressed in identical little blue gingham dresses, and when I walked into Motown with them, Vicki (front desk girl) started laughing harder than ever. She put her head down on her desk and cried. The Executive Suite became a free range for the girls. They came, saw and conquered...the Contessas gyrated around the control room, four angelic look-alikes." https://raremusicalgems.blogspot.com/2011/01/contessas-i-keep-on-keepin-on-1965.html
grant Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 few for me,least i think they are all 'blue eyed' singing swinging counts - along the way sue lynn - dont pity me paul anka - i cant help loving you gary haines - keep on going jan foreman - your last chance warner brothers- im going your way sandpipers - lonely too long
Guest MrC Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Pal Rakes & The Prophets - Can't Deny The Hurt Another country singer with Soul I'll go with that - brilliant and atmospheric track that sounds so good LOUD
Guest MrC Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I suppose these are more "dancers" than "soul" ... Jerry Naylor - City Lights PJ Proby - you cant come home again (should this be in the "Javells" thread? ) Rufus Lumley - Stronger than me (think this was mentioned elsewhere) What colour was Shane Martin? I had more - but Gene used them all in his original list
Guest jerrio Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) ANOTHER GREAT COVER BY LULU, SHOW ME. AND THIS BY DUSTY. https://www.youtube.c...h?v=SXmmAQh6dqw AND TOM JONES. https://www.youtube.c...h?v=2NwZDZFhkEo JOE GRAVES. SEE SAW. Edited July 8, 2011 by jerrio
Guest shaunthesheep Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 How about : SPENCER DAVIS GROUP - IT HURTS ME SO (flip side to their terrible version of ''every little bit hurts''). Here's an obscure on for you : KING EDWARD & HIS BD's - M.T.Y.L.T.T. Its a great northern dancer. Taf
Pete S Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Whats this fetching nowadays Pete. Was around £25.00 a few years back but was a hard record to shift for some strange reason. I've currently got an unsold white demo at £50, there's a couple of label variations, this is the rarer E George Clemens one as opposed to the plain E one. I'd sooner keep it than let it go any cheaper.
Guest Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Margo & The Marvettes " When Love Slips Away " My apologies if it has been mentioned before . Malc Edited July 8, 2011 by Malc Burton
Pete S Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 frankie & johnny - i'll hold you the babies - the hand of fate david & the giants - ten miles high the outsiders - lonely man idle few - people that's why johnny maestro - i'm stepping out of the picture larry allen - can't we talk it over the nomads - somethin's bad johnny vanelli - seven days of loving you that's just out of my first box!
Guest Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 frankie & johnny - i'll hold you the babies - the hand of fate david & the giants - ten miles high the outsiders - lonely man idle few - people that's why johnny maestro - i'm stepping out of the picture larry allen - can't we talk it over the nomads - somethin's bad johnny vanelli - seven days of loving you that's just out of my first box! Jay Traynor " Up and Over " , and his work with Jay & The Americians Malc
Jim G Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Perhaps we should put together a know Master List of all these? Anyway here's a few more of the well known ones not posted yet, I think! - this excludes instrumentals (e.g Condition Red) Mickey Moonshine - Name it You Got It The Vogues - That's The Tune Rufus Lumley - I'm Standing Gary Lewis & The Playboys - My Hearts Symphony Danny Monday - Baby Without You Shane Martin - I Need You Dusty Springfield - What's it Gonna Be Dusty Springfield - Bring Him Back Dusty Springfield - Go Ahead On Lee David - Temptation is Calling My Name Barbara Mills - Queen of Fools Creation - I Got the Fever O'Kaysions - Girl Watcher Mitch Ryder - Breakout Mitch Ryder - You Get Your Kicks Mickey Lee Lane - He Sha No Ley Bob Brady and The Con Cords - Everybody's Going To The Love-In Bob Brady and The Con Cords - More More of Your Love Spiral Staircase - More Today than Yesterday April Stevens - Wanting You T.D. Valentine - Love Trap Bullet - Willpower Weak Temptation Strong Nancy Ames - I Don't Want to Talk About It Samantha Jones - Surrounded by a Ray of Sunshine George Carrow - Angel Baby California In Crowd - Happiness In My Heart P.J. Proby - Nikki Hoeky Julian Covey - A Little Bit Hurt The Shakers - One Wonderful Moment Guy Darrell - I've Been Hurt Wayne Gibson - Under My Thumb August & Deneen - We Go Together The Reflections - Like Adam & Eve The Reflections - Just Like Romeo & Juliet Judy Street - What Larry Santos - You've Got Me Where You Want Me Now Dana Valery - You Don't Know Where Your Interests Lie Five & A Penny - You Don't Know Where Your Interests Lie Paul Anka - When We Get There General Assembly - Sensitive Mind Wayne Fontana - Something Keeps Calling Me Back Wombat - Getting On Life Plus many many many others Edited July 8, 2011 by jim g
Brav Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Connie Clark - My Sugar Baby AKA Chris Clark https://youtu.be/gOdVvdpyDt0
Guest MrC Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Anybody mentioned The Javells? Edited July 8, 2011 by MrC
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