Jumpinjoan Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Hi my top 5 would be, Eula cooper - Try -Tragar Nathan williams - What price - Lime Matt brown - Thank you baby - Jar-val Alex brown - I'm not responsible - Sundi Young ladies - I'm ired of running around - Stang Nice 5 there Add Milton Parker and it would be a great 5! Sorry 6 Edited July 1, 2011 by jumpinjoan Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Foster Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) El Anthony - We've been in love too long - La Cindy Soul Bros Inc - Pyramid - Golden Eye Philharmonics - I need, I need your love - Soulin Ascots - Just a few feet from the gutter - American Playboy Frederick Hymes III - Time ain't gonna do me no favor - Fab Vegas Edited July 1, 2011 by Tony Foster Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 I remember Chuck Cockerham being played in Northern Rooms in mid 80's, before crossover was ever mentioned. Cliff Steele being the main one I remember spinning it. The term was coined in the mid 8ts from my memory . Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 A few people have said that some records mentioned have been played in Northern rooms and this is where I think arguments start, as one mans Northern can be another mans crossover and vise versa. A lot of peoples perception comes from what type of venue they heard the record first. For me crossover is about mid-temp records from the late 60's - early 70's (maybe 67-73, like Johnny Moore's Blue Rock, Jadan and Brunswick stuff). The Northern dance scene has embraced many different records at different periods of its evolution and so does the term crossover as more 'old style' modern records now seem to be put in this classification which differs from my understanding of what crossover is. Its horses for courses I suppose. I do like reading these types of threads as it does highlight records people either don't know or haven't listened to for ages. Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Records that we now describe as Crossover have always been played on the NS scene. The term Crossover has been used since the mid 8ts at least, but to my knowledge were played alongside everything else, seperate room etc didnt come until later. I'm sure that Chuck C, was played in someones bedroom at some point, therefore giving someone first dibs , but it was played at Soul Essence substantially before taking off 'massively' in NS Rooms, not saying it hadnt been discovered or hadnt had an odd play at Northern do's, but Soul Essence was where it was first aired on a regular basis & it was NOT widely known on the NS scene prior to this............so there . There are lots of records listed here in peoples Top 5's as Crossover which deffo arnt Crossover as far as my definition goes, but I'm enjoying the lists & peoples choices anyway. Now can we get back to the Top 5's pse. Russ Edited July 1, 2011 by Russ Vickers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Foster Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 What's your definition of crossover of Russ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ernie Andrews Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Chuck Cockerham - Have I the right Norris Vines - Give in Dewey Jeffries - No one cared Major lance - How can you say Goodbye Majors - Down in the Ghetto Thats my top five at the moment but it can change over time Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raremusicdirect Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Five that sprang to mind from me in no particular order Differences - Five MinutesRoger Hatcher - Sweetest Girl In The World Norwood Long - I'd Like To Have YouSkip Jackson - I'm Onto You GirlJive Fyve - If I Had A Chance To Love You Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Foster Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Records that we now describe as Crossover have always been played on the NS scene. The term Crossover has been used since the mid 8ts at least, but to my knowledge were played alongside everything else, seperate room etc didnt come until later. I'm sure that Chuck C, was played in someones bedroom at some point, therefore giving someone first dibs , but it was played at Soul Essence substantially before taking off 'massively' in NS Rooms, not saying it hadnt been discovered or hadnt had an odd play at Northern do's, but Soul Essence was where it was first aired on a regular basis & it was NOT widely known on the NS scene prior to this............so there . There are lots of records listed here in peoples Top 5's as Crossover which deffo arnt Crossover as far as my definition goes, but I'm enjoying the lists & peoples choices anyway. Now can we get back to the Top 5's pse. Russ Just wondered what's your definition of crossover of Russ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Thank you to everyone who has posted, really good stuff.......keep em comin'. Best Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Records that we now describe as Crossover have always been played on the NS scene. The term Crossover has been used since the mid 8ts at least, but to my knowledge were played alongside everything else, seperate room etc didnt come until later. I'm sure that Chuck C, was played in someones bedroom at some point, therefore giving someone first dibs , but it was played at Soul Essence substantially before taking off 'massively' in NS Rooms, not saying it hadnt been discovered or hadnt had an odd play at Northern do's, but Soul Essence was where it was first aired on a regular basis & it was NOT widely known on the NS scene prior to this............so there . There are lots of records listed here in peoples Top 5's as Crossover which deffo arnt Crossover as far as my definition goes, but I'm enjoying the lists & peoples choices anyway. Now can we get back to the Top 5's pse. Russ Hi Russ .....you mean like the KINGS OF SOUL How about Jimmy Bo Horne Robert Tanner Blue Steam Doc Peabody Four Dynamics Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Hi Russ .....you mean like the KINGS OF SOUL ' />' />                     How about  Jimmy Bo Horne                                           Robert Tanner                                          Blue Steam                                          Doc Peabody                                          Four DynamicsTouche'..........I was using other peoples definitions :-) .Best Russ Edited July 1, 2011 by Russ Vickers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest vinylmaniac Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I'm not sure if Russ is after something to play at Monumental on sea. Anyway here's five (crossover ISH) I like. IT'S A MIRACLE / EXTRA SPECIAL PEOPLE. SINCE I FOUND MY BABY / MARSHALL, D & B. FALLIN' IN LOVE / DYNA-MIGHT. WHEN YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE / GIL SCOTT HERON. THIS TOO SHALL PASS / ED TOWNSEND. Ta Ray Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sjclement Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 100's to choose from I NEED YOUR LOVE - CLYDENE JACKSON A DREAM - CREATIONS MAGIC CORNER - BELITA WOODS SWEETEST THING - CHANNEL THREE GET YOUR POINT OVER - SEBASTIAN WILLIAMS and all those mentioned by everyone else! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kjw Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Flowers - For Real Charles Johnson - Never Had A Love So Good Essex IV - My Heart Just Can't Take It Chuck Cockerham - Have I Got A Right Richard Caiton - I'd Like To Get Near You Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest vinylmaniac Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Five more. IT TAKES LOVE / DELILAH MOORE. HOW BIG IS BIG / MASQUERADERS. PLEASE GIVE ME ONE MORE CHANCE / CLYDE McPHATTER. I COME RUNNING BACK / SANDRA WRIGHT. YOU MAKE ME TREMBLE / PAUL KELLY. Ta Ray Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 How these for size Deirdre Wilson Tabac - Angel Baby Never missed what you got - El Shobey and co Big man cry - Ernie Johnson Is this the way to treat a girl - Hesitations The price - Sherrel Brothers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Chuck Cockerham - Have I the right Norris Vines - Give in Dewey Jeffries - No one cared Major lance - How can you say Goodbye Majors - Down in the Ghetto Thats my top five at the moment but it can change over time Great to see Dewey Jeffries in there - One of my all time fave tunes ! !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 I'm not sure if Russ is after something to play at Monumental on sea. Anyway here's five (crossover ISH) I like. IT'S A MIRACLE / EXTRA SPECIAL PEOPLE. SINCE I FOUND MY BABY / MARSHALL, D & B. FALLIN' IN LOVE / DYNA-MIGHT. WHEN YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE / GIL SCOTT HERON. THIS TOO SHALL PASS / ED TOWNSEND. Ta Ray Well I cant play any of them now can I Ray Nice choices buddy. Best Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Skegsoul Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 there really are just so,so many fantastic records. tried to think what i really enjoy playing out when mo & me play at dj's,and the first 5 that came to mind where; BOBBY WILBURN " DREAMER" ROOSEVELT MATHEWS " GOT ME DIGGING YOU " SIDESHOW " LONLEY GIRL " RAY HINES " WHY DONT YOU GIVE ME A TRY " ANN BOGUS " DONT ASK ME TO LOVE AGAIN " Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jonno Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 How about thses album only winners, Bobby Taylor-Don't be afraid Roy Lee Johnson-I can't stand this loneliness Bruce Cloud-Walk in my shoes Mildred Clark-Keep trying Barbara Lewis-The Stars See you all in sunny Clacton. Johnny. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 There are so many very good crossover records, but here are five worthy of a mention. Almeta Lattimore - These memories TSU Toranodoes - What good am I Alice Clark - Don't you care Carbon Copies - Just don't love you Ron Harrington - It happened to me again Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) and five more Nu-Rons - All of my life Continental Showstoppers - Never set me free Little Reuben - In the name of loneliness Cathrine Young - Just because you're a lover Bottom & Company - Gonna find a true love Edited July 1, 2011 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 SPENCER WIGGINS-IM AT THE BREAKING POINT-KENT Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev Cane Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Imagine going to a venue and hearing all of the contributions here, Chucck Cockerham and Richard Caiton coming out with big appraisal here and rightly so, but Jonno,s Roy Lee Johnson which Blake posted a couple of onths ago and Dave,s Continental Showstoppers are real good quality dark horses for me. Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest vinylmaniac Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Here's five more. GOT TO GET MY BROOM OUT / DAVID PEOPLES. IT AIN'T ME NO MORE / LEE SHOT WILLIAMS. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING / FRIDAY ,SATURDAY & SUNDAY. BEING IN LOVE / THREE SHADES OF LOVE. I CAN'T GET OVER LOSING YOU / THE SUMMITTS. Soul heaven ps. Is the monumental do any good. Ta Ray Edited July 1, 2011 by vinylmaniac Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Imagine going to a venue and hearing all of the contributions here, Chucck Cockerham and Richard Caiton coming out with big appraisal here and rightly so, but Jonno,s Roy Lee Johnson which Blake posted a couple of onths ago and Dave,s Continental Showstoppers are real good quality dark horses for me. Kev there's no need to imagine a venue that used to play all the above selections there used to be plenty. It's just the fact that not enough punters turned up to support them at the time and they all just fell by the way side. Since when has Richard Caiton "Id Like to get Near You" been a mega rarity there's loads about. Although there is a rare 45 on Uptight by Richard Caiton I just need to reflect awhile on what the title is Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest vinylmaniac Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Cripes just had another root upstairs and found another five. I AIN'T GOING NOWHERE / LEROY BARBOUR. I GET MY GROOVE FROM YOU / BOBBY SHANNON. HOW CAN I GO ON WITHOUT YOU / COREY BLAKE. SHAKE OF THAT DREAM / EDDIE BILLUPS. THIS TIME / DOUGLAS & LONERO. Woo just got going,more to come.Ta Ray Edited July 1, 2011 by vinylmaniac Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Craig W Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Can't believe Neil Reed - Not as beautiful as you - Music Now has'nt been suggested. Pure Detroit crossover perfection Edited July 1, 2011 by craig W Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) there's no need to imagine a venue that used to play all the above selections there used to be plenty. It's just the fact that not enough punters turned up to support them at the time and they all just fell by the way side. Since when has Richard Caiton I'd Like to get Near You been a mega rarity there's loads about. Although there is a rare 45 on Uptight by Richard Caiton I just need to reflect awhile on what the title is '' I dont know about 'mega' rareity, but I thought 'I'd Like to Get Near You' was quite hard myself, altho demand may have also had an effect ?, but I think you might be referring to 'Our Love Is True' ???, the first Uptight 45. Dont think it would have been 'Take a Hold Brother & Sister' as this was a big local 'hit' in NOLA.. Best Russ Edited July 2, 2011 by Russ Vickers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Drewes Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Some great tunes listed here. Its hard to pick a top 5 so a few from me not mentioned so far: 1. Maurice Long - I don't love you any more 2. Denise Lasalle - Here I am again 3. Rozetta Johnson - Mine was real 4. Brenda Jones - Big mistake 5. Johnny Taylor - Poor make believer Sonia x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Ron Matlock - You got the best of me. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 here's my top 5 ......................as at now !!!!!!!! likely to change at any given moment milton parker ...... women like it harder differences..... 5 minutes brenda jones ......big mistake hamilton movement .........she's gone johnnie taylor .....your the best girl in the world Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) I dont know about 'mega' rareity, but I thought 'I'd Like to Get Near You' was quite hard myself, altho demand may have also had an effect ?, but I think you might be referring to 'Our Love Is True' ???, the first Uptight 45. Dont think it would have been 'Take a Hold Brother & Sister' as this was a big local 'hit' in NOLA.. Best Russ Hi Russ Just using a bit of poetic license with the mega rarity prefix, just that when this 45 came to prominence every one I knew found it in quantity not single copies. The harder Caiton release that I am reffering too is not "Our Love Is True" the answer is hidden in a cryptic clue in my previous post. To me "I'd Like To Get Near You" while being a classic crossover tune is really played out after circa 25 years. Dave Edited July 2, 2011 by Louise Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Preems Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 emmitt long - call me sir george - i lost you girl billy kent -take all this time patti and lovlites- love so strong gloria scott-what a i gonna do My all time 5 at the minit probably change tomorrow so many yet to find .cheers. LOVE Emmitt Long! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
22ndsoul Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 My top five at the moment would be Carl Hall - What about you emmitt long - Call me Voltaire's - My my my baby Enchanters-There's a look about you Keni Lewis - Ain't gonna make it easy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Thejan Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 2nd voting from germany: matt brown - everyday bernard smith - man without a people shelly fisher - girl, I love you towana & the total destruction - wear your natural, baby natural four - I thought you were mine (boola boola only) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) Hi Russ Just using a bit of poetic license with the mega rarity prefix, just that when this 45 came to prominence every one I knew found it in quantity not single copies. The harder Caiton release that I am reffering too is not "Our Love Is True" the answer is hidden in a cryptic clue in my previous post. To me "I'd Like To Get Near You" while being a classic crossover tune is really played out after circa 25 years. Dave Does this make it any easier Dave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxgf7heEmMk Edited July 2, 2011 by NEV Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Does this make it any easier Dave https://www.youtube.c...h?v=zxgf7heEmMk sold this Nev to much sugar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 sold this Nev to much sugar Fully understand Ted......i've turned down a few copies of this ,it's not a patch on " I like to get near you" Was just helping Dave out .....or making it easier for Russ p.s Just remembered SMALL SOCIETY ........Great xover and i'll pm in a mo Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Fully understand Ted......i've turned down a few copies of this ,it's not a patch on " I like to get near you" Was just helping Dave out .....or making it easier for Russ p.s Just remembered SMALL SOCIETY ........Great xover and i'll pm in a mo Don't let on the Mystery Caiton 45 is northern Nev, Ted will have sleepless nights worrying what it is!!! Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 almeta lattimore....these memories corey blake....how can i go on emmett long ...call me tommy tate...if you got to love somebody bottom and co ...gonna find a new love Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Don't let on the Mystery Caiton 45 is northern Nev, Ted will have sleepless nights worrying what it is!!! Dave let me reflect on that ernie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 let me reflect on that ernie :lol: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Must find that CD Mr corless did for me in 1989 :lol: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Must find that CD Mr corless did for me in 1989 Not the one that self destructed in 10 minutes ,I hope. Take a bow Arthur Fenn it was your discovery along with 200 copies of : "I See Love In Your Eyes" on Caiburt Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alan Walls Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Being a wee bit out of touch, I'll use the unofficial defination of 'Crossover' that seemed to prevail when the term first emerged, ie Late 60's Recordings Which Sound A Bit Like 70's And Vice Versa': The Composers - Let's Get To The Point (Complex 3) Delegates of Soul - Running Back (Uplook) Soul Brothers Incorporated - Pyramid (Golden Eye) Dave, Stafford... The Whispers - Flying High (Soul Clock) The Philharmonics - I Need, I Need Your Love (Soulin) Always was a sucker for male group harmonies... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Northernguy Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 This type of question crops up quite regular and I find it virtually impossible to answer cos there are so many fantastic records. So firstly let me av a think and pick something that you couldn't possibly leave out. Ahhh yes impossible to leave out Ty Karim so count that one in. Now that elusive one that has been top of the wants list for donkeys years. Yep still dreamin of holdin that Annette Poindexter disc so gotta include that. Then there's the one's you would never sell no matter how skint you were. Hmmm think there's gonna be a few goin in the box with me but I can't lie so add in Betty Fikes. Now lets have a look at what would fill the dance floor without fail and get up even the most reluctant of dancers. Well that's gotta be Sy Hightower so now just one more. What about the one that is so good that it gets overplayed to the point of self destruct. Well there are a few but topping the list is The Constellations. So there we are the top 5 xover records of all time. Oh bollox I've got The Triplettes on me ring tone how could I have left them out. How could I leave out ...........and.............and............and............now I've got a headache. Alan Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) Seems some folk cant agree on what Crossover actually is, so here's your five as I see it... Margie Joseph - One More Chance Paul Walters - I know what love is all about Peggy Scott - Things Have More Meaning Now The Blues Busters - Love is the Answer Rhythm Machine - Whatcha Gonna Do if there was a sixth allowed??? Margie Joseph - Come on back to me lover; or maybe I make two by Margie count as one? Mal.C. Edited July 3, 2011 by Mal.C. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
waterfall_manc Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 changes all the time for me, but this one stays up there mostly... Jessie James - Are you gonna leave me - Shirley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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