Top 5 Xover Records Of All Time

[Jumpinjoan]

Hi my top 5 would be,

Eula cooper - Try -Tragar

Nathan williams - What price - Lime

Matt brown - Thank you baby - Jar-val

Alex brown - I'm not responsible - Sundi

Young ladies - I'm ired of running around - Stang

Nice 5 there

Add Milton Parker and it would be a great 5! Sorry 6

Edited July 1, 2011 by jumpinjoan

[Tony Foster]

El Anthony - We've been in love too long - La Cindy

Soul Bros Inc - Pyramid - Golden Eye

Philharmonics - I need, I need your love - Soulin

Ascots - Just a few feet from the gutter - American Playboy

Frederick Hymes III - Time ain't gonna do me no favor - Fab Vegas

Edited July 1, 2011 by Tony Foster

[Russ Vickers]

I remember Chuck Cockerham being played in Northern Rooms in mid 80's, before crossover was ever mentioned. Cliff Steele being the main one I remember spinning it.

The term was coined in the mid 8ts from my memory .

Russ

[Russ Vickers]

A few people have said that some records mentioned have been played in Northern rooms and this is where I think arguments start, as one mans Northern can be another mans crossover and vise versa. A lot of peoples perception comes from what type of venue they heard the record first. For me crossover is about mid-temp records from the late 60's - early 70's (maybe 67-73, like Johnny Moore's Blue Rock, Jadan and Brunswick stuff). The Northern dance scene has embraced many different records at different periods of its evolution and so does the term crossover as more 'old style' modern records now seem to be put in this classification which differs from my understanding of what crossover is. Its horses for courses I suppose.

I do like reading these types of threads as it does highlight records people either don't know or haven't listened to for ages.

Russ

[Russ Vickers]

Records that we now describe as Crossover have always been played on the NS scene. The term Crossover has been used since the mid 8ts at least, but to my knowledge were played alongside everything else, seperate room etc didnt come until later.

I'm sure that Chuck C, was played in someones bedroom at some point, therefore giving someone first dibs , but it was played at Soul Essence substantially before taking off 'massively' in NS Rooms, not saying it hadnt been discovered or hadnt had an odd play at Northern do's, but Soul Essence was where it was first aired on a regular basis & it was NOT widely known on the NS scene prior to this............so there .

There are lots of records listed here in peoples Top 5's as Crossover which deffo arnt Crossover as far as my definition goes, but I'm enjoying the lists & peoples choices anyway.

Now can we get back to the Top 5's pse.

Russ

Edited July 1, 2011 by Russ Vickers

[Tony Foster]

What's your definition of crossover of Russ?

[Ernie Andrews]

Chuck Cockerham - Have I the right

Norris Vines - Give in

Dewey Jeffries - No one cared

Major lance - How can you say Goodbye

Majors - Down in the Ghetto

Thats my top five at the moment but it can change over time

[Raremusicdirect]

Five that sprang to mind from me in no particular order

• Differences - Five Minutes
• Roger Hatcher - Sweetest Girl In The World
• Norwood Long - I'd Like To Have You
• Skip Jackson - I'm Onto You Girl
• Jive Fyve - If I Had A Chance To Love You

[Tony Foster]

Records that we now describe as Crossover have always been played on the NS scene. The term Crossover has been used since the mid 8ts at least, but to my knowledge were played alongside everything else, seperate room etc didnt come until later.

I'm sure that Chuck C, was played in someones bedroom at some point, therefore giving someone first dibs , but it was played at Soul Essence substantially before taking off 'massively' in NS Rooms, not saying it hadnt been discovered or hadnt had an odd play at Northern do's, but Soul Essence was where it was first aired on a regular basis & it was NOT widely known on the NS scene prior to this............so there .

There are lots of records listed here in peoples Top 5's as Crossover which deffo arnt Crossover as far as my definition goes, but I'm enjoying the lists & peoples choices anyway.

Now can we get back to the Top 5's pse.

Russ

Just wondered what's your definition of crossover of Russ?

[Russ Vickers]

Thank you to everyone who has posted, really good stuff.......keep em comin'.

Best Russ

[NEV]

Records that we now describe as Crossover have always been played on the NS scene. The term Crossover has been used since the mid 8ts at least, but to my knowledge were played alongside everything else, seperate room etc didnt come until later.

I'm sure that Chuck C, was played in someones bedroom at some point, therefore giving someone first dibs , but it was played at Soul Essence substantially before taking off 'massively' in NS Rooms, not saying it hadnt been discovered or hadnt had an odd play at Northern do's, but Soul Essence was where it was first aired on a regular basis & it was NOT widely known on the NS scene prior to this............so there .

There are lots of records listed here in peoples Top 5's as Crossover which deffo arnt Crossover as far as my definition goes, but I'm enjoying the lists & peoples choices anyway.

Now can we get back to the Top 5's pse.

Russ

Hi Russ .....you mean like the KINGS OF SOUL

How about Jimmy Bo Horne

Robert Tanner

Blue Steam

Doc Peabody

Four Dynamics

[Russ Vickers]

Hi Russ .....you mean like the KINGS OF SOUL ' />' />

                     How about  Jimmy Bo Horne

                                           Robert Tanner

                                           Blue Steam

                                           Doc Peabody

                                           Four Dynamics

Touche'..........I was using other peoples definitions :-) .

Best Russ

Edited July 1, 2011 by Russ Vickers

[Guest vinylmaniac]

I'm not sure if Russ is after something to play at Monumental on sea.

Anyway here's five (crossover ISH) I like.

IT'S A MIRACLE / EXTRA SPECIAL PEOPLE.

SINCE I FOUND MY BABY / MARSHALL, D & B.

FALLIN' IN LOVE / DYNA-MIGHT.

WHEN YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE / GIL SCOTT HERON.

THIS TOO SHALL PASS / ED TOWNSEND.

Ta Ray

[Sjclement]

100's to choose from

I NEED YOUR LOVE - CLYDENE JACKSON

A DREAM - CREATIONS

MAGIC CORNER - BELITA WOODS

SWEETEST THING - CHANNEL THREE

GET YOUR POINT OVER - SEBASTIAN WILLIAMS

and all those mentioned by everyone else!

[Kjw]

Flowers - For Real

Charles Johnson - Never Had A Love So Good

Essex IV - My Heart Just Can't Take It

Chuck Cockerham - Have I Got A Right

Richard Caiton - I'd Like To Get Near You

[Guest vinylmaniac]

Five more.

IT TAKES LOVE / DELILAH MOORE.

HOW BIG IS BIG / MASQUERADERS.

PLEASE GIVE ME ONE MORE CHANCE / CLYDE McPHATTER.

I COME RUNNING BACK / SANDRA WRIGHT.

YOU MAKE ME TREMBLE / PAUL KELLY.

Ta Ray

[Guest Polyvelts]

How these for size

Deirdre Wilson Tabac - Angel Baby

Never missed what you got - El Shobey and co

Big man cry - Ernie Johnson

Is this the way to treat a girl - Hesitations

The price - Sherrel Brothers

[Guest Polyvelts]

Chuck Cockerham - Have I the right

Norris Vines - Give in

Dewey Jeffries - No one cared

Major lance - How can you say Goodbye

Majors - Down in the Ghetto

Thats my top five at the moment but it can change over time

Great to see Dewey Jeffries in there - One of my all time fave tunes ! !!!!

[Russ Vickers]

I'm not sure if Russ is after something to play at Monumental on sea.

Anyway here's five (crossover ISH) I like.

IT'S A MIRACLE / EXTRA SPECIAL PEOPLE.

SINCE I FOUND MY BABY / MARSHALL, D & B.

FALLIN' IN LOVE / DYNA-MIGHT.

WHEN YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE / GIL SCOTT HERON.

THIS TOO SHALL PASS / ED TOWNSEND.

Ta Ray

Well I cant play any of them now can I Ray Nice choices buddy.

Best Russ

[Skegsoul]

there really are just so,so many fantastic records.

tried to think what i really enjoy playing out when mo & me play at dj's,and the first 5 that came to mind where;

BOBBY WILBURN " DREAMER"

ROOSEVELT MATHEWS " GOT ME DIGGING YOU "

SIDESHOW " LONLEY GIRL "

RAY HINES " WHY DONT YOU GIVE ME A TRY "

ANN BOGUS " DONT ASK ME TO LOVE AGAIN "

[Jonno]

How about thses album only winners,

Bobby Taylor-Don't be afraid

Roy Lee Johnson-I can't stand this loneliness

Bruce Cloud-Walk in my shoes

Mildred Clark-Keep trying

Barbara Lewis-The Stars

See you all in sunny Clacton.

Johnny.

[Dave Thorley]

There are so many very good crossover records, but here are five worthy of a mention.

Almeta Lattimore - These memories

TSU Toranodoes - What good am I

Alice Clark - Don't you care

Carbon Copies - Just don't love you

Ron Harrington - It happened to me again

[Dave Thorley]

and five more

Nu-Rons - All of my life

Continental Showstoppers - Never set me free

Little Reuben - In the name of loneliness

Cathrine Young - Just because you're a lover

Bottom & Company - Gonna find a true love

Edited July 1, 2011 by Dave Thorley

[arnie j]

SPENCER WIGGINS-IM AT THE BREAKING POINT-KENT

[Kev Cane]

Imagine going to a venue and hearing all of the contributions here, Chucck Cockerham and Richard Caiton coming out with big appraisal here and rightly so, but Jonno,s Roy Lee Johnson which Blake posted a couple of onths ago and Dave,s Continental Showstoppers are real good quality dark horses for me.

Kev

[Guest vinylmaniac]

Here's five more.

GOT TO GET MY BROOM OUT / DAVID PEOPLES.

IT AIN'T ME NO MORE / LEE SHOT WILLIAMS.

THERE MUST BE SOMETHING / FRIDAY ,SATURDAY & SUNDAY.

BEING IN LOVE / THREE SHADES OF LOVE.

I CAN'T GET OVER LOSING YOU / THE SUMMITTS.

Soul heaven

ps. Is the monumental do any good. Ta Ray

Edited July 1, 2011 by vinylmaniac

[Louise]

Imagine going to a venue and hearing all of the contributions here, Chucck Cockerham and Richard Caiton coming out with big appraisal here and rightly so, but Jonno,s Roy Lee Johnson which Blake posted a couple of onths ago and Dave,s Continental Showstoppers are real good quality dark horses for me.

Kev

there's no need to imagine a venue that used to play all the above selections there used to be plenty. It's just the fact that not enough punters turned up to support them at the time and they all just fell by the way side.

Since when has Richard Caiton "Id Like to get Near You" been a mega rarity there's loads about. Although there is a rare 45 on Uptight by Richard Caiton I just need to reflect awhile on what the title is

Dave

[Guest vinylmaniac]

Cripes just had another root upstairs and found another five.

I AIN'T GOING NOWHERE / LEROY BARBOUR.

I GET MY GROOVE FROM YOU / BOBBY SHANNON.

HOW CAN I GO ON WITHOUT YOU / COREY BLAKE.

SHAKE OF THAT DREAM / EDDIE BILLUPS.

THIS TIME / DOUGLAS & LONERO.

Woo just got going,more to come.Ta Ray

Edited July 1, 2011 by vinylmaniac

[Craig W]

Can't believe Neil Reed - Not as beautiful as you - Music Now has'nt been suggested. Pure Detroit crossover perfection

Edited July 1, 2011 by craig W

[Russ Vickers]

there's no need to imagine a venue that used to play all the above selections there used to be plenty. It's just the fact that not enough punters turned up to support them at the time and they all just fell by the way side. Since when has Richard Caiton I'd Like to get Near You been a mega rarity there's loads about. Although there is a rare 45 on Uptight by Richard Caiton I just need to reflect awhile on what the title is ''

I dont know about 'mega' rareity, but I thought 'I'd Like to Get Near You' was quite hard myself, altho demand may have also had an effect ?, but I think you might be referring to 'Our Love Is True' ???, the first Uptight 45. Dont think it would have been 'Take a Hold Brother & Sister' as this was a big local 'hit' in NOLA..

Best Russ

Edited July 2, 2011 by Russ Vickers

[Guest Drewes]

Some great tunes listed here. Its hard to pick a top 5 so a few from me not mentioned so far:

1. Maurice Long - I don't love you any more

2. Denise Lasalle - Here I am again

3. Rozetta Johnson - Mine was real

4. Brenda Jones - Big mistake

5. Johnny Taylor - Poor make believer

Sonia x

[KevH]

Ron Matlock - You got the best of me.

[Diddy Morgan]

here's my top 5 ......................as at now !!!!!!!! likely to change at any given moment

milton parker ...... women like it harder

differences..... 5 minutes

brenda jones ......big mistake

hamilton movement .........she's gone

johnnie taylor .....your the best girl in the world

[Louise]

I dont know about 'mega' rareity, but I thought 'I'd Like to Get Near You' was quite hard myself, altho demand may have also had an effect ?, but I think you might be referring to 'Our Love Is True' ???, the first Uptight 45. Dont think it would have been 'Take a Hold Brother & Sister' as this was a big local 'hit' in NOLA..

Best Russ

Hi Russ

Just using a bit of poetic license with the mega rarity prefix, just that when this 45 came to prominence every one I knew found it in quantity not single copies. The harder Caiton release that I am reffering too is not "Our Love Is True" the answer is hidden in a cryptic clue in my previous post. To me "I'd Like To Get Near You" while being a classic crossover tune is really played out after circa 25 years.

Dave

Edited July 2, 2011 by Louise

[Guest Preems]

emmitt long - call me

sir george - i lost you girl

billy kent -take all this time

patti and lovlites- love so strong

gloria scott-what a i gonna do

My all time 5 at the minit probably change tomorrow

so many yet to find .cheers.

LOVE Emmitt Long!

[22ndsoul]

My top five at the moment would be

Carl Hall - What about you

emmitt long - Call me

Voltaire's - My my my baby

Enchanters-There's a look about you

Keni Lewis - Ain't gonna make it easy

[Thejan]

2nd voting from germany:

matt brown - everyday

bernard smith - man without a people

shelly fisher - girl, I love you

towana & the total destruction - wear your natural, baby

natural four - I thought you were mine (boola boola only)

[NEV]

Hi Russ

Just using a bit of poetic license with the mega rarity prefix, just that when this 45 came to prominence every one I knew found it in quantity not single copies. The harder Caiton release that I am reffering too is not "Our Love Is True" the answer is hidden in a cryptic clue in my previous post. To me "I'd Like To Get Near You" while being a classic crossover tune is really played out after circa 25 years.

Dave

Does this make it any easier Dave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxgf7heEmMk

Edited July 2, 2011 by NEV

[Ted Massey]

Does this make it any easier Dave https://www.youtube.c...h?v=zxgf7heEmMk

sold this Nev to much sugar

[NEV]

sold this Nev to much sugar

Fully understand Ted......i've turned down a few copies of this ,it's not a patch on " I like to get near you"

Was just helping Dave out .....or making it easier for Russ

p.s Just remembered SMALL SOCIETY ........Great xover and i'll pm in a mo

[Louise]

Fully understand Ted......i've turned down a few copies of this ,it's not a patch on " I like to get near you"

Was just helping Dave out .....or making it easier for Russ

p.s Just remembered SMALL SOCIETY ........Great xover and i'll pm in a mo

Don't let on the Mystery Caiton 45 is northern Nev, Ted will have sleepless nights worrying what it is!!!

Dave

[Guest JIM BARRY]

almeta lattimore....these memories

corey blake....how can i go on

emmett long ...call me

tommy tate...if you got to love somebody

bottom and co ...gonna find a new love

[Ted Massey]

Don't let on the Mystery Caiton 45 is northern Nev, Ted will have sleepless nights worrying what it is!!!

Dave

let me reflect on that ernie

[Louise]

let me reflect on that ernie

:lol:

[Ted Massey]

Must find that CD Mr corless did for me in 1989 :lol:

[Louise]

Must find that CD Mr corless did for me in 1989

Not the one that self destructed in 10 minutes ,I hope.

Take a bow Arthur Fenn it was your discovery along with 200 copies of :

"I See Love In Your Eyes" on Caiburt

Dave

[Alan Walls]

Being a wee bit out of touch, I'll use the unofficial defination of 'Crossover' that seemed to prevail when the term first emerged, ie Late 60's Recordings Which Sound A Bit Like 70's And Vice Versa':

The Composers - Let's Get To The Point (Complex 3)

Delegates of Soul - Running Back (Uplook)

Soul Brothers Incorporated - Pyramid (Golden Eye) Dave, Stafford...

The Whispers - Flying High (Soul Clock)

The Philharmonics - I Need, I Need Your Love (Soulin)

Always was a sucker for male group harmonies...

[Northernguy]

This type of question crops up quite regular and I find it virtually impossible to answer cos there are so many fantastic records.

So firstly let me av a think and pick something that you couldn't possibly leave out.

Ahhh yes impossible to leave out Ty Karim so count that one in.

Now that elusive one that has been top of the wants list for donkeys years.

Yep still dreamin of holdin that Annette Poindexter disc so gotta include that.

Then there's the one's you would never sell no matter how skint you were.

Hmmm think there's gonna be a few goin in the box with me but I can't lie so add in Betty Fikes.

Now lets have a look at what would fill the dance floor without fail and get up even the most reluctant of dancers.

Well that's gotta be Sy Hightower so now just one more.

What about the one that is so good that it gets overplayed to the point of self destruct.

Well there are a few but topping the list is The Constellations.

So there we are the top 5 xover records of all time.

Oh bollox I've got The Triplettes on me ring tone how could I have left them out.

How could I leave out ...........and.............and............and............now I've got a headache.

Alan

[Mal C]

Seems some folk cant agree on what Crossover actually is, so here's your five as I see it...

Margie Joseph - One More Chance

Paul Walters - I know what love is all about

Peggy Scott - Things Have More Meaning Now

The Blues Busters - Love is the Answer

Rhythm Machine - Whatcha Gonna Do

if there was a sixth allowed??? Margie Joseph - Come on back to me lover; or maybe I make two by Margie count as one?

Mal.C.

Edited July 3, 2011 by Mal.C.

[waterfall_manc]

changes all the time for me, but this one stays up there mostly...

Jessie James - Are you gonna leave me - Shirley