Ian Dewhirst Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Recently one of the last remaining truly independent record labels from the Disco and Boogie years, Salsoul Records, was sold to a music rights company at the beginning of this year. Since all previous Salsoul comps which I'd done have now all been deleted, I decided it would be nice to try and do a definitive package of all the key original mixes and have them all in one package and sequenced in chronological order from the dates the originals came out. Also there was a part of me that thought that this could be the last time that these brilliant tracks could get a physical release, so when I heard that the company could potentially be sold last year I swooped in a did a deal for this package. Many will already have many of 'em but probably on several different comps, so if you want 'em all on one comp, now's your chance and all for less than a tenner from Amazon!...... HURTCDX110 Mixology: The Definitive Salsoul Mixes 3 x CD Digi Pac Released 25/8/11 Amazon Link Track Listing CD 1 1. "The Bottle (La Botella)" - Bataan 3.29 Original Album Mix January 1975 2. "You're Just The Right Size" - The Salsoul Orchestra 4.40 Original Album Mix October 1975 3. "Helplessly" - Moment Of Truth 6.24 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix June 1976 4. "Everyman" - Double Exposure 7.19 Original Album Mix June 1976 5. "Nice N' Nasty" - The Salsoul Orchestra 5.21 Original Walter Gibbons 12" Mix July 1976 6. "Ten Percent" - Double Exposure 9.41 Original Walter Gibbons 12" Mix November 1976 7. "Spring Rain" - Silvetti 5.52 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix November 1976 8. "My Love Is Free" - Double Exposure 9.40 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix November 1976 9. "Dreamin'" - Loleatta Holloway 6.18 Original Album Mix November 1976 10."This Will Be A Night To Remember" - Eddie Holman 5.47 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix March 1977 11."Love Is You" - Carol Williams 5.06 Original 12" Mix March 1977 CD 2 1. "Doctor Love" - First Choice 7.35 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix April 1977 2. "Getaway" - The Salsoul Orchestra 4.17 Original 12" Mix April 1977 3. "Hit And Run" - Loleatta Holloway 10.59 Original 12" Walter Gibbons Mix April 1977 4. "Runaway" - Salsoul Orchestra ft Loleatta Holloway 4.44 Original Album Mix June 1977 5. "The Beat Goes On & On" - Ripple 6.55 Original Jim Burgess 12" Mix December 1977 6. "Just As Long As I Got You" - Love Committee 8.35 Original Walter Gibbons 12" Mix July 1978 7. "Sing Sing" - Gaz 7.16 Original Richie Rivera 12" Mix November 1978 8. "I Got My Mind Made Up" - Instant Funk 9.46 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix December 1978 9. "First Time Around" - Skyy 6.40 Original Randy Muller/Solomon Roberts Jr 12" Mix April 1979 10. "Crying" - Instant Funk 8.58 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix May 1979 CD 3 1. "Jingo" - Candido 9.51 Original David Rodriguez 12" Mix July 1979 2. "Dancin' & Prancin'" - Candido 6.53 Original David Rodriguez 12" Mix July 1979 3. "All About The Paper" - Loleatta Holloway 6.13 Original Bobby DJ Guttadero Album Mix August 1979 4. "Janice (Don't Be So Blind To Love)"- Skip Mahoney 6.59 Original Bobby DJ Guttadero 12" Mix April 1980 5. "Love Sensation" - Loleatta Holloway 6.34 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix July 1980 6. "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" - Inner Life 10.26 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix May 1981 7. "I Know You Will" - Logg 6.44 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix June 1981 8. "Take Some Time Out For Love" - The Salsoul Orchestra 6.22 Original 12" Mix June 1982 9. "Let No Man Put Asunder - First Choice 7.35 Original Frankie Knuckles 12" Mix May 1983 10. "Heartbreaker" - Leroy Burgess 6.12 Original Shep Pettibone12" Mix August 1983 Ian D Edited June 11, 2011 by Ian Dewhirst
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 11, 2011 Author Posted June 11, 2011 will be preordering this after payday Yippee. That's the idea. You won't be disappointed. A beautiful slice of 70's/80's Soul Music history for under a tenner? Loleatta Holloway, Eddie Holman, Skip Mahoney, Double Exposure, Inner Life (featuring Jocelyn Brown), Moment Of Truth, First Choice, Ripple, Love Committee.......do the maths LOL..... Also I'm hoping that younger people will get into this and discover this music for the first time - there's a healthy appetite out there, expecially internationally, so hopefully there'll be something for everyone in the three and half hours of tunes. Could be the last time on physical too, so handy to have on the shelves for sure methinks! Good choice David! Ian D
Guest dave nowell Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Fantastic productions! Deserve a new audience for sure. Ten Per Cent is one of best sounds ever - from that wonderful era when NS fans were open minded about new music! I used to play "Crying" to death off the IF album
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 11, 2011 Author Posted June 11, 2011 Fantastic productions! Deserve a new audience for sure. Ten Per Cent is one of best sounds ever - from that wonderful era when NS fans were open minded about new music! I used to play "Crying" to death off the IF album Also handily coming out the Monday before the Ritz revival all-dayer where much of the early stuff was played for the first time! Ian D
Guest Paul Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Will it also be available as a bundled download on itunes etc, Ian?
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 11, 2011 Author Posted June 11, 2011 Will it also be available as a bundled download on itunes etc, Ian? Yep, absolutely. Bundled clearances seem to be OK these days. "Philly Re-Grooved 1" did 15% on digital so it seems to be creeping up......... Ian D
Guest Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Recently one of the last remaining truly independent record labels from the Disco and Boogie years, Salsoul Records, was sold to a music rights company at the beginning of this year. Since all previous Salsoul comps which I'd done have now all been deleted, I decided it would be nice to try and do a definitive package of all the key original mixes and have them all in one package and sequenced in chronological order from the dates the originals came out. Also there was a part of me that thought that this could be the last time that these brilliant tracks could get a physical release, so when I heard that the company could potentially be sold last year I swooped in a did a deal for this package. Many will already have many of 'em but probably on several different comps, so if you want 'em all on one comp, now's your chance and all for less than a tenner from Amazon!…… HURTCDX110 Mixology: The Definitive Salsoul Mixes 3 x CD Digi Pac Released 25/8/11 Amazon Link Track Listing CD 1 1. "The Bottle (La Botella)" - Bataan 3.29 Original Album Mix January 1975 2. "You're Just The Right Size" - The Salsoul Orchestra 4.40 Original Album Mix October 1975 3. "Helplessly" - Moment Of Truth 6.24 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix June 1976 4. "Everyman" - Double Exposure 7.19 Original Album Mix June 1976 5. "Nice N' Nasty" - The Salsoul Orchestra 5.21 Original Walter Gibbons 12" Mix July 1976 6. "Ten Percent" - Double Exposure 9.41 Original Walter Gibbons 12" Mix November 1976 7. "Spring Rain" - Silvetti 5.52 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix November 1976 8. "My Love Is Free" - Double Exposure 9.40 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix November 1976 9. "Dreamin'" - Loleatta Holloway 6.18 Original Album Mix November 1976 10."This Will Be A Night To Remember" - Eddie Holman 5.47 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix March 1977 11."Love Is You" - Carol Williams 5.06 Original 12" Mix March 1977 CD 2 1. "Doctor Love" - First Choice 7.35 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix April 1977 2. "Getaway" - The Salsoul Orchestra 4.17 Original 12" Mix April 1977 3. "Hit And Run" - Loleatta Holloway 10.59 Original 12" Walter Gibbons Mix April 1977 4. "Runaway" - Salsoul Orchestra ft Loleatta Holloway 4.44 Original Album Mix June 1977 5. "The Beat Goes On & On" - Ripple 6.55 Original Jim Burgess 12" Mix December 1977 6. "Just As Long As I Got You" - Love Committee 8.35 Original Walter Gibbons 12" Mix July 1978 7. "Sing Sing" - Gaz 7.16 Original Richie Rivera 12" Mix November 1978 8. "I Got My Mind Made Up" - Instant Funk 9.46 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix December 1978 9. "First Time Around" - Skyy 6.40 Original Randy Muller/Solomon Roberts Jr 12" Mix April 1979 10. "Crying" - Instant Funk 8.58 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix May 1979 CD 3 1. "Jingo" - Candido 9.51 Original David Rodriguez 12" Mix July 1979 2. "Dancin' & Prancin'" - Candido 6.53 Original David Rodriguez 12" Mix July 1979 3. "All About The Paper" - Loleatta Holloway 6.13 Original Bobby DJ Guttadero Album Mix August 1979 4. "Janice (Don't Be So Blind To Love)"- Skip Mahoney 6.59 Original Bobby DJ Guttadero 12" Mix April 1980 5. "Love Sensation" - Loleatta Holloway 6.34 Original Tom Moulton 12" Mix July 1980 6. "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" - Inner Life 10.26 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix May 1981 7. "I Know You Will" - Logg 6.44 Original Larry Levan 12" Mix June 1981 8. "Take Some Time Out For Love" - The Salsoul Orchestra 6.22 Original 12" Mix June 1982 9. "Let No Man Put Asunder - First Choice 7.35 Original Frankie Knuckles 12" Mix May 1983 10. "Heartbreaker" - Leroy Burgess 6.12 Original Shep Pettibone12" Mix August 1983 Ian D The Jim Burgess mix of "The Beat Goes On & On" ......... Ambassadoe , you spoil us . An excellent compilaton : nice one Ian With the wealth of other tracks available , am I right there will be further volumes in time ? Malc Edited June 12, 2011 by Malc Burton
Peter Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Got most of the originals on vinyl just collecting dust in the bottom of a cupboard, will definetly get this. Thanks
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 12, 2011 Author Posted June 12, 2011 The Jim Burgess mix of "The Beat Goes On & On" ......... Ambassadoe , you spoil us . An excellent compilaton : nice one Ian With the wealth of other tracks available , am I right there will be further volumes in time ? Malc Highly unlikely Malc, since Salsoul was purchased by the Verse Music Group earlier this year and they evidently have their own plans for the future (they also bought West End Records last year). Even though I did this deal with the old Salsoul last year, it still made sense to co-operate with the new owners in terms of being able to use the logo etc, etc and it was quite a struggle to even get this album out, so I really don't know what the future plans are. I did actually more or less reissue most of the catalogue back in 2004 via my own Suss'd Records and I now note that most of those releases are now creeping up in value which makes sense as much of the material will probably never be available again on a physical format, so it's probably worth bargain-hunting to see what can be picked up. I note that the "Crossover Flavas" album will now cost £23.29 if you snag the only copy available! Here's the Suss'd listing:- Suss'd Records Discogs Listing That's one of the main reasons I wanted a last bite of the cherry really. The key mixes have never been assembled on one package before so it seemed like the right time to do it and I'm glad I did, painful though it was. At least anyone who's into this brilliant label now has 3 years to pick up many of the key goodies on one package at probably a tenth of the cost of getting them via different releases. Probably the best tenner anyone could spend IMO. Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 12, 2011 Author Posted June 12, 2011 Got most of the originals on vinyl just collecting dust in the bottom of a cupboard, will definetly get this. Thanks Join the club Peter. I've got multiples of everything in numerous vinyl formats (including Jamaican 7" presses on Double Exposure's "Ten Percent" and Silvetti's "Spring Rain"), so I know exactly what you mean. These days I prefer to make it from the sofa to the fully alphabetised CD shelves and simply pull out the one package rather than climbing the stairs to the record room and spending several hours pulling out vinyl and then several more hours re-filing the bastards! Ian D
Peter Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Ian, I know this is a Salsoul thread, you mentioned tracks in different format, here's a demo LP I have had since 1977 and never seen another. I do have few of them on 12" as well. Side 1 Going back to my roots, Lamont Dozier Belfast, Boney M I believe in music, Mass Production Free Spirit, Dennis Coffey Cerrones Paradise, Cerrone Sure can't go to the moon, CJ & Co, Side 2 Love for sale, Boney M Devils Gun, CJ & Co, (Brilliant track) Wings of fire, Dennis Coffey The world is a ghetto, George Benson I feel like I've been livin, Trammps Edited June 12, 2011 by Peter
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 12, 2011 Author Posted June 12, 2011 Ian, I know this is a Salsoul thread, you mentioned tracks in different format, here's a demo LP I have had since 1977 and never seen another. I do have few of them on 12" as well. Side 1 Going back to my roots, Lamont Dozier Belfast, Boney M I believe in music, Mass Production Free Spirit, Dennis Coffey Cerrones Paradise, Cerrone Sure can't go to the moon, CJ & Co, Side 2 Love for sale, Boney M Devils Gun, CJ & Co, (Brilliant track) Wings of fire, Dennis Coffey The world is a ghetto, George Benson I feel like I've been livin, Trammps OK, these were back in the days of the notorious Fred Dove - WEA's Club Promotion man from the mid 70's to mid 80's. Fred was pretty stingy and very selective about his mailing list so there weren't so many of these pressed. I haven't seen that one but I would have definitely grabbed it for sure, since it's got several key tracks on it (Lamont Dozier, both CJ & Co's, George Benson and the Trammps). I started getting 'em towards the end of the 70's (when I finally got on Fred's list) and there's a few that have U.S. only tracks on them, so it's always worth checking the track listings. I see you like "Date With The Rain" too. You've obviously got great taste! Ian D
Peter Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the info Ian. Yes, Eddie Kendricks, Date With The Rain, brilliant track. Edited June 12, 2011 by Peter
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 13, 2011 Author Posted June 13, 2011 Thanks for the info Ian. Yes, Eddie Kendricks, Date With The Rain, brilliant track. No probs. And that's my fave Eddie Kendricks of all time by the way! Ian D
Guest Imogen Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Ian, I know this is a Salsoul thread, you mentioned tracks in different format, here's a demo LP I have had since 1977 and never seen another. I do have few of them on 12" as well. Side 1 Going back to my roots, Lamont Dozier Belfast, Boney M I believe in music, Mass Production Free Spirit, Dennis Coffey Cerrones Paradise, Cerrone Sure can't go to the moon, CJ & Co, Side 2 Love for sale, Boney M Devils Gun, CJ & Co, (Brilliant track) Wings of fire, Dennis Coffey The world is a ghetto, George Benson I feel like I've been livin, Trammps Looks like an interesting LP. What's the Boney M track Love For sale like?
Wiggyflat Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Belfast was a UK pop hit with a disco beat....a German group singing about the troubles in Ireland!! Macca started it off with his Give Ireland Back To The Irish
Guest Imogen Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) Belfast was a UK pop hit with a disco beat....a German group singing about the troubles in Ireland!! Macca started it off with his Give Ireland Back To The Irish I've got that record, not one of their best ! Their version of Sunny is good and I know Ian likes that one! Edited June 14, 2011 by Imogen
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 18, 2011 Author Posted June 18, 2011 I've got that record, not one of their best ! Their version of Sunny is good and I know Ian likes that one! Oi! Stop that young lady! Even I drew the line @ Boney M LOL...... Some seriously great Philly International comps are coming up too, including a brand new Ralph Tee compiled definitive 8CD box set and a couple of other surprises. Plus a film soundtrack, 10 new Backbeats and 4 more Disco Discharges on the way, so should be a good year! By the way I have some Disco Blogs to send you which will be total up your street. I'll PM 'em over......... Ian D
shuggie61 Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 Hi Ian thanks for putting this together. Don't want to sound too creepy but I think this kind of cultural conservation is really really important. Love EK's "Date with the Rain" and you gotta hear Frankie Gee's version on Claridge - got a 7" of that but you can get it on one of those early Al Kent compilations...
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 19, 2011 Author Posted June 19, 2011 Hi Ian thanks for putting this together. Don't want to sound too creepy but I think this kind of cultural conservation is really really important. Love EK's "Date with the Rain" and you gotta hear Frankie Gee's version on Claridge - got a 7" of that but you can get it on one of those early Al Kent compilations... Yep, I think it's important to conserve great recordings too. Luckily we're well served in the UK with some cracking specialists like Ace/Kent, Expansion, Cherry Red, Demon, Big Break etc, etc. The UK is far more active in preserving music then any other country in the world these days and hopefully long may that continue! Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 19, 2011 Author Posted June 19, 2011 Also I forgot, I did put out Eddie Kendricks out on the Motown Disco comp from a few years back which you can still pick up for £5.50 if yer quick! Motown Disco Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 20, 2011 Author Posted June 20, 2011 OK, all good today with "Mixology" today as it hits the Top 15 in both Amazon's Disco and Funk charts a good 5 weeks before release. Also couldn't help noticing that it's even cheaper than it was last week - you can now get it for £8.99 inc P&P which @ £3 a disc has to be one the bargains of the century! It's never been better for buyers.... Mixology - Amazon £8.99 Ian D
Guest Imogen Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Oi! Stop that young lady! Even I drew the line @ Boney M LOL...... Some seriously great Philly International comps are coming up too, including a brand new Ralph Tee compiled definitive 8CD box set and a couple of other surprises. Plus a film soundtrack, 10 new Backbeats and 4 more Disco Discharges on the way, so should be a good year! By the way I have some Disco Blogs to send you which will be total up your street. I'll PM 'em over......... Ian D Hi Ian the Disco Discharge comps are excellent, there's some great obscure disco on them. If you could send me those links that would be great . Cheers Immy
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 20, 2011 Author Posted June 20, 2011 Hi Ian the Disco Discharge comps are excellent, there's some great obscure disco on them. If you could send me those links that would be great . Cheers Immy Cool Immy will do. They're on my lappy @ home, so I'll dig 'em out and blast 'em over in the next day or two OK? Ian D
Guest Imogen Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Cool Immy will do. They're on my lappy @ home, so I'll dig 'em out and blast 'em over in the next day or two OK? Ian D Great thanks Ian
Ian Dewhirst Posted July 6, 2011 Author Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) Wow, just got the finished packages in and they look absolutely beautiful! HURTCDX110 Mixology: The Definitive Salsoul Mixes 3 x CD Digi Pac Released 29/8/11 Amazon That's an incredible amount of music and packaging for £8.99! How can they possibly produce a package like this at that price I ask myself..... Ian D Edited July 6, 2011 by Ian Dewhirst
davidwapples Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 my copy arrived today looking forward to playing it over the weekend
Guest ashleysoul Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 Awesome job ian d, a belter of a label, so many great tracks..." take some time out" is a personal gave. Gonna have to get the cd for the car!
Steveh73 Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Got mine last weekl and a constant fixture on yhe car stereo, despite having most of the tracks on 12 inch vinyl. An excellent compilation and, unlike many that cost more than the paltry £8.99 charged here, nice, crystal-clear sound. Which leads me onto a question about the Salsoul label in 1980 - out went the likes of Double Exposure and Loleatta Holloway and in came the likes of Inner Life and Logg. All equally excellent, and Salsoul did a much better job of coping with the emerging boogie-sound than Philadelphia International but why such a complete reinvention?:
scunnyjack Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Got mine last weekl and a constant fixture on yhe car stereo, despite having most of the tracks on 12 inch vinyl. An excellent compilation and, unlike many that cost more than the paltry £8.99 charged here, nice, crystal-clear sound. Which leads me onto a question about the Salsoul label in 1980 - out went the likes of Double Exposure and Loleatta Holloway and in came the likes of Inner Life and Logg. All equally excellent, and Salsoul did a much better job of coping with the emerging boogie-sound than Philadelphia International but why such a complete reinvention?: Bought this and Philly Regrooved 2 off the shelves at HMV Scunny last Saturday and busy wading through the 5 hours worth in the car to work etc. Like you say an excellent compilation. For those wanting further info on the label as well as Ian's knowledge, there is an excellent write up, listing and interview with one of the founders Ken Cayre on www.disco-disco.com/labels/salsoul.shtml Steve
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 Awesome job ian d, a belter of a label, so many great tracks..." take some time out" is a personal gave. Gonna have to get the cd for the car! What! You haven't bought it yet????? Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 Got mine last weekl and a constant fixture on yhe car stereo, despite having most of the tracks on 12 inch vinyl. An excellent compilation and, unlike many that cost more than the paltry £8.99 charged here, nice, crystal-clear sound. Which leads me onto a question about the Salsoul label in 1980 - out went the likes of Double Exposure and Loleatta Holloway and in came the likes of Inner Life and Logg. All equally excellent, and Salsoul did a much better job of coping with the emerging boogie-sound than Philadelphia International but why such a complete reinvention?: Good choice Steve! I think the reason why Salsoul kept on the ball for the 10 years from '75 - '85 was because they were constantly in touch with the clubs and the major U.S. DJ's and remixers at the time and this kept their ears attuned to the constantly evolving sounds from the clubs. Just the list of the remixers they used showed how the label evolved over that period - Tom Moulton, Walter Gibbons, Bobby 'DJ' Guttadero, Larry Levan, Francois Kevorkianm Shep Pettibone etc, etc. Also they started off in Philly basically using MFSB and producers Norman Harris and Vincent Montana Jr and other Philly production teams for the Loleatta Holloway, Double Exposure, Salsoul Orchestra, First Choice, Eddie Holman, Love Committee, Instant Funk etc, etc records whilst always watching other producers emerge mainly from New York like Randy Muller, Leroy Burgess, Patrick Adams, Stan Lucas, Greg Carmichael etc, etc. Philly International were routed from much earlier, 1972 in fact, and had the bulk of their hits throughout the 70's and were much more self-contained in Philadelphia with less exposure to outside producers than Salsoul. Also PIR were not as connected with clubs, remixers and DJ's as much as Salsoul but more towards the desires and control of Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff who, to be fair, were probably more focussed on sustained long-term artist careers and international successes like the O'Jays, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes, Teddy Pendergrass, Billy Paul etc, etc. The amazing thing about both labels is that they both maintained their independence until earlier this year when Salsoul changed hands after 36 years of being owned by the Cayre brothers. PIR continues to be 100% owned and controlled by Kenny and Leon. Watch out for the forthcoming Philly International 10CD box set compiled by Ralph Tee which should be with us by October plus a 3CD PIR Re-Edits and Remixes package coming shortly and a comprehensive 3CD Tom Moulton set including 16 new Tom Moulton PIR mixes coming for January next next year! Ian D
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