Swingin Medallions

[Graym]

Just been on JMs site and seen the write up on 'She Drives me out of my mind' and 'Double shot' both of which are rated 'rarest of the UK Philips releases'.

Not wishing to question his knowledge and standing but out of interest what do the rest of you rate as rarest UK Philips.

As both have graced the shelves in record room since the Co-op in Derby got rid of it's stock mid 70s what value do you good folks reckon ?

With regard UK Philips rarities I've only ever seen one Frankie & the Classicals

[shelly]

Where did that come from?

[Dave Pinch]

ive never seen another apart from my own copy which cost £1.50............ but then again i aint looked too hard for it.not the sort of thing you would see in boxes at soul nights. where as frankie and the classicals always seem to be in mick smith boxes when i visited him.....................i did only see him the once with an issue of wayne fontana`s give me just a little more time. that must be hard .....particularly on stock

dave

[shelly]

Wayne Fontana- Give me just a little more time only came out on demo, being withdrawn because of Chairmen of the Board/Invictus at the time.

However, as you mention Mick Smith, then probably the souce was that shop in Roman Way top end of Caledonian Road c Kings X, that used to be full of british end of stock items, and if we hadn't been too pissed that day, we might have found a copy.

[John Benson]

ive never seen another apart from my own copy which cost £1.50............ but then again i aint looked too hard for it.not the sort of thing you would see in boxes at soul nights.

There's a copy at our house also Dave!

But I have to agree, it's not one you come across, I can't remember seeing another and I got mine sometime during the mid - late 70's, more out of curiosity than anything else as I didn't know it.

Edited June 3, 2011 by John Benson

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[Dave Pinch]

Wayne Fontana- Give me just a little more time only came out on demo, being withdrawn because of Chairmen of the Board/Invictus at the time.

However, as you mention Mick Smith, then probably the souce was that shop in Roman Way top end of Caledonian Road c Kings X, that used to be full of british end of stock items, and if we hadn't been too pissed that day, we might have found a copy.

yes it was withdrawn ..... but that doesnt always mean demo only. i had it in my hands leeds record fair. he had a demo the same day.but you have got me questioning myself.... i dont usually have a beer till ive left the record fair

dave

[soulfulmick]

yes it was withdrawn ..... but that doesnt always mean demo only. i had it in my hands leeds record fair. he had a demo the same day.but you have got me questioning myself.... i dont usually have a beer till ive left the record fair

dave

Your right Dave I have seen an issue as well, but unfortunately I only have the Demo.

Mick W

[Dave Moore]

Wayne Fontana stocker definitely exists.

Regards,

Dave

[Geoff B]

Have seen a copy myself of most of the rare stuff on Phillips,what i have never seen is the first issue or Flamingos Boogaloo Party BF1483. I am not saying it is the rarest just that i have never seen one.(anyone have one for sale?).I have a copy of S M, havent played it for ages.

atb,Geoff.

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

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...BTW I have no idea why JM would think that either of the Swingin' Medallions UK Philips issues are particularly rare, as they are not. They turn up regularly on eBay and at record fairs - albeit filed where they ought to be filed, in 60s pop boxes rather than soul.

I paid around a tenner for a NM Philips 'She Drives...' less than a year ago, from a dealer who knows the value of UK issues. Hardly a 'Rarest Of The Rare' figure...

Edited June 4, 2011 by TONY ROUNCE

[Dave Pinch]

i used to have the first issue of the flamingoes geoff. bought it from saus at marr weston club about 20 years ago for £8. lovely copy........sadly i dont know what became of it . ive only seen one other beat up with a big label tear...very rare imo

dave

Edited June 4, 2011 by dave pinch

[Guest]

Simple statement taken from from the data on our sales over 14 years. Which revealed we have sold in that time:

THREE - Frankie and The Classicals - UK Philips

ONE - Flamingos on Philips BF1483

THREE - Wayne Fontana - STOCK copies and SIX of the DEMO

and NONE not even one - of either of the Swinging Medallion 45s on UK Philips - hence the write-up saying "Rarest Philips"

Can't find a PHILIPS - Swinging Medallion on Popsike or GEMM either.

Rarity is personal it is how many copies you have personally had, seen or think you've seen, at my age I have to rely on accurate databases rather than memory, but my memory from when I was collecting BRITISH is both SM on UK Philips are tough to find.

[Dave Pinch]

Simple statement taken from from the data on our sales over 14 years. Which revealed we have sold in that time:

THREE - Frankie and The Classicals - UK Philips

ONE - Flamingos on Philips BF1483

THREE - Wayne Fontana - STOCK copies and SIX of the DEMO

and NONE not even one - of either of the Swinging Medallion 45s on UK Philips - hence the write-up saying "Rarest Philips"

Can't find a PHILIPS - Swinging Medallion on Popsike or GEMM either.

Rarity is personal it is how many copies you have personally had, seen or think you've seen, at my age I have to rely on accurate databases rather than memory, but my memory from when I was collecting BRITISH is both SM on UK Philips are tough to find.

bloody hell. i might sell mine now.......i always thought that the first issue of flamingo`s was hard. i would have even said it was rarer than frankie.........some folk would just laugh. i must admit i didnt see a wayne fontana stock till about 2001 at mick smiths stall at leeds record fair............ i had to rub my eyes i thought it was demo only up to then.. seeing is believing as they say

dave

[bri pinch]

THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE RECORDS THAT GOES UNDER THE RADAR COS IT'S SO COMMON ON US BUT. MMM ....MAYBE THINKING BACK SEEN MORE COPIES OF SAY DARRELL BANKS ON STAX AT UK FAIRS DOWN THE YEARS.,

BRI PINCH

Edited June 4, 2011 by bri pinch

[Sean Hampsey]

THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE RECORDS THAT GOES UNDER THE RADAR COS IT'S SO COMMON ON US BUT. MMM ....MAYBE THINKING BACK SEEN MORE COPIES OF SAY DARRELL BANKS ON STAX AT UK FAIRS DOWN THE YEARS.,

BRI PINCH

I've got a Minter Flamingos BF1483, Bri.

Had it since I were a schoolkid and the big lads wanted to buy it off me.

Top tune...

:0)

Sean

[Dave Pinch]

THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE RECORDS THAT GOES UNDER THE RADAR COS IT'S SO COMMON ON US BUT. MMM ....MAYBE THINKING BACK SEEN MORE COPIES OF SAY DARRELL BANKS ON STAX AT UK FAIRS DOWN THE YEARS.,

BRI PINCH

which record is under the radar bee.................. both swinging med 45`s were decent size usa hits. the uk counterparts dont crop up that much even in pop boxes and christ knows how many of those weve looked thru in our time on this planet. i think your right about darrell banks though... rarity wise SM and the 1st issue of flamingos much rarer even if the dont command as much coinage

dave

[Nige Brown]

Wayne Fontana stocker definitely exists.

Regards,

Dave

Mr Julan Bentley Deffo has/had a Stock Copy of Wane Fantana!!

He had great pleasure in telling me when he saw my Demo!!

[Kris Holmes]

There is a a New Zealand pressof "Double Shot" on Philips which is kinda tough to turn up too. I can throw a pic of that up if people want to see it when I get back to the city.

[Pete S]

Wayne Fontana- Give me just a little more time only came out on demo, being withdrawn because of Chairmen of the Board/Invictus at the time.

It came out on demo and issue but the issue was withdrawn. I don't think there's any Philips soul record I haven't had at one time or another. The beat and psych things are harder to find than the soul 45's.

Edited June 6, 2011 by Pete S

[Gene-r]

I was hard pushed to get rid of my UK Philips copy of "Double Shot" for £5 a couple of years ago.

Of the pop-psych UK Philips 45s, I've always regarded "Open Up Your Door" by Richard & The Young Lions as one of the rarest. Only ever seen one, and that was the one that passed through my hands about 8 years ago.

Edited June 7, 2011 by Gene-R

[Kris Holmes]

wow, did not know the Richard & the Young Lions got a UK press, great 45.

[Millo]

 I have found a copy of BF1483 after a few years of looking out for one. I am not sure if the Philips' sample stamp is a good thing or not.