Premium Stuff Posted April 9, 2011 Posted April 9, 2011 Hi everyone Awesome tune - came out twice - label variations - different numbers - same/different mixes? Groovesville and Don Davis but recorded in Memphis or Detroit or elsewhere? Anyone shed any light please? Any info appreciated Cheers Richard
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 There are several differences between the two versions. The second one has extra backing vocals, the track's a bit longer, and - from memory - the 'I've Got to Keep My Love Away From You...' bridge repeats for a second time towards the end of the second version. I also seem to recall that the lead vocal was revoiced on 'version 2' I no longer have a copy of the second version, but I remember thinking that it lacked a lot of the stark menace of the first one, and that's why I didn't keep it. I am pretty certain that the whole track was recorded at United Sound in Detroit, or possibly at Tera Shirma. The strings and Jack Ashford's tambourine were certainly recorded 'up north', in any event. As you say, an awesome tune. I actually don't think the Dramatics ever cut a better one on Volt...
Premium Stuff Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Thanks for the info Tony - good stuff Cheers Richard
kevinsoulman Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 one of my favourite dramatics tunes too can't say i've noticed the difference before will listen carefully later. since i've been in love the other side of volt 4029 is great also. kev
Baz Atkinson Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Along with the Dynamics [mainly for their seventies stuff and the Dells] MY FAV OUTFIT,this is a really good read folks,obviously a very strong Davies/Hestor connection re the volt stuff but definetly Detroit -follow the link folks its a really good read !! https://www.soulwalking.co.uk/Dramatics.html BAZ A
Jumpinjoan Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 I can't hear much difference in either version apart from the backing, which is the one I prefer.
Citizen P Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) There are several differences between the two versions. The second one has extra backing vocals, the track's a bit longer, and - from memory - the 'I've Got to Keep My Love Away From You...' bridge repeats for a second time towards the end of the second version. I also seem to recall that the lead vocal was revoiced on 'version 2' I no longer have a copy of the second version, but I remember thinking that it lacked a lot of the stark menace of the first one, and that's why I didn't keep it. I am pretty certain that the whole track was recorded at United Sound in Detroit, or possibly at Tera Shirma. The strings and Jack Ashford's tambourine were certainly recorded 'up north', in any event. As you say, an awesome tune. I actually don't think the Dramatics ever cut a better one on Volt... Presumably, the UK stax release is Version 2 then ?? And agreed, great tune, thanks to Mr Brooks for putting me on to it Tony Edited April 11, 2011 by tonyp
Jumpinjoan Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Presumably, the UK stax release is Version 2 then ?? And agreed, great tune, thanks to Mr Brooks for putting me on to it Tony Both on Volt. I think it's the demo that is the one without the backing as I have an issue and that has the backing. So good when tunes that have been around for years and years get reactivated. What it's all about
Citizen P Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Both on Volt. I think it's the demo that is the one without the backing as I have an issue and that has the backing. So good when tunes that have been around for years and years get reactivated. What it's all about I have the Orange Volt, timed at 3.30 Steve has the Blue Volt timed at 3.00 ( not heard it yet) and he's also got the UK Stax-heard that at Burscough via Brookesy, but don't know the diff. ATB Tony
Guest Ste Brazil Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Top track, gonna give it a play when i get home, i forgot about it to be honest! Ste.
Jumpinjoan Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) I have the Orange Volt, timed at 3.30 Steve has the Blue Volt timed at 3.00 ( not heard it yet) and he's also got the UK Stax-heard that at Burscough via Brookesy, but don't know the diff. ATB Tony Les played a Volt demo at Burscough which didn't have the backing. Issues do have the backing (as far as I know). Sorry but I don't do British as a rule Edited April 11, 2011 by jumpinjoan
Baz Atkinson Posted April 11, 2011 Posted April 11, 2011 Hello Mate -in Mexico from Sunday for nearly 3 weeks -tis a hard life !!
Steve Plumb Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 On me site, I've an Orange one for sale plus I also got a UK Stax copy this weekend (noc) £20 each if anyone interested? Sounds great on a big system Cheers Steve
Premium Stuff Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Right - thanks for the info everyone - but confused now so just checking stuff So - got to be the first version - yes? On mix/collectability - got to be the promo? Have looked in Refo for the different versions but can't see what's what - can anyone clarify those, or post up clips of specific versions to compare please? Cheers Richard
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 Presumably, the UK stax release is Version 2 then ?? ...Yes. Yes it is.
Micksmix Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 On me site, I've an Orange one for sale plus I also got a UK Stax copy this weekend (noc) £20 each if anyone interested? Sounds great on a big system Cheers Steve I've got the stax issue,mine has no centre,is this a similar scenario to some of the atlantic UK releases without centres?
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) I've got the stax issue,mine has no centre,is this a similar scenario to some of the atlantic UK releases without centres? ...exactly the same. Edited April 14, 2011 by TONY ROUNCE
Guest abdntony Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 Had a spanish stax with a picture sleeve, great tune awesome on big sound system ;-))
Derek Pearson Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) Dramatics "Your Love Was Strange" (Volt 4029) time 3:00 released October 1969. My copy's a double sided WDJ; so I don't know what the flip side is on the issue; and I don't know if there's any difference in the mixes of "Your Love Was Strange" between the issue and/or white demo. dramatics - your love was strange - 4029 Dramatics "Your Love Was Strange" (Volt 4082) time 3:53 released 1972. Flip side "Toast To The Fool". And I don't know if there's any difference in the mixes of "Your Love Was Strange" between the orange issue and/or demo's. dramatics - your love was strange - volt Guess it depends on which version you hear first - I heard Volt 4029 first and thought it was truly awesome. Then I heard Volt 4082 and was slightly disappointed to be honest, it's good infact it's very good, but it doesn't come close to the first version on Volt 4029. Tony Rounce was spot on when he said he thought Volt 4082 "lacked a lot of the stark menace" of Volt 4029. To my ears Volt 4029 sounds more stripped down, more basic and less cluttered than Volt 4082. And nobody seem's to have mentioned there's over a 2 year gap between the two Volt releases so it made pretty obvious sense for Volt to "sweeten up" the song for it's seventies release. Phew. derek x Edited April 15, 2011 by Derek Pearson
kevinsoulman Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 Dramatics "Your Love Was Strange" (Volt 4029) time 3:00 released October 1969. My copy's a double sided WDJ; so I don't know what the flip side is on the issue; and I don't know if there's any difference in the mixes of "Your Love Was Strange" between the issue and/or white demo. dramatics - your love was strange - 4029 Dramatics "Your Love Was Strange" (Volt 4082) time 3:53 released 1972. Flip side "Toast To The Fool". And I don't know if there's any difference in the mixes of "Your Love Was Strange" between the orange issue and/or demo's. dramatics - your love was strange - volt Guess it depends on which version you hear first - I heard Volt 4029 first and thought it was truly awesome. Then I heard Volt 4082 and was slightly disappointed to be honest, it's good infact it's very good, but it doesn't come close to the first version on Volt 4029. Tony Rounce was spot on when he said he thought Volt 4082 "lacked a lot of the stark menace" of Volt 4029. To my ears Volt 4029 sounds more stripped down, more basic and less cluttered than Volt 4082. And nobody seem's to have mentioned there's over a 2 year gap between the two Volt releases so it made pretty obvious sense for Volt to "sweeten up" the song for it's seventies release. Phew. derek x dramatics - since i've been in love - volt flip to 4029 kev
Steve Plumb Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 This is why I love this site! Superb info chaps Off to check all me copies now and if i canny find a 4029 on the shelves i'm gonna be gutted
Citizen P Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 Dramatics "Your Love Was Strange" (Volt 4029) time 3:00 released October 1969. My copy's a double sided WDJ; so I don't know what the flip side is on the issue; and I don't know if there's any difference in the mixes of "Your Love Was Strange" between the issue and/or white demo. dramatics - your love was strange - 4029 Dramatics "Your Love Was Strange" (Volt 4082) time 3:53 released 1972. Flip side "Toast To The Fool". And I don't know if there's any difference in the mixes of "Your Love Was Strange" between the orange issue and/or demo's. dramatics - your love was strange - volt Guess it depends on which version you hear first - I heard Volt 4029 first and thought it was truly awesome. Then I heard Volt 4082 and was slightly disappointed to be honest, it's good infact it's very good, but it doesn't come close to the first version on Volt 4029. Tony Rounce was spot on when he said he thought Volt 4082 "lacked a lot of the stark menace" of Volt 4029. To my ears Volt 4029 sounds more stripped down, more basic and less cluttered than Volt 4082. And nobody seem's to have mentioned there's over a 2 year gap between the two Volt releases so it made pretty obvious sense for Volt to "sweeten up" the song for it's seventies release. Phew. derek x Listened to side by side-now I hear it, thanks Tony
Premium Stuff Posted April 15, 2011 Author Posted April 15, 2011 Thanks guys - brill info Cheers Richard
Guest Brett F Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) I was going to mention the awesome flip side.....then realised it had already been mentioned, i got a bundle of these in Chicago some 10 years back, all the different takes, orange, blue, demo etc etc....Yep its an ok record. Edited August 14, 2011 by Brett F
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