Guest Baz Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 By the way how are your screens showing the threads at the moment. I have the opening starting part of the discussion (Petes playlist) then the last 2 additions from this morning and everthing underneath is in a long line in very small print. Craig you've got your options set wrong! At the top of a thread there is two light blue boxes one say's ratings in it and one says options click on that one and the click on standard, you must have it set to linear or somthing
Them Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Hi tad, I played this one in honour of Eugene Record. I've been playing it at home for a few days thinking that I'll play this out next chance I get. Sweet, feel good 70's dancer. Do you know the Gangbusters - Just want you to know. Jordi The same can be said to me, played that my fave track for great falsetter E. Record! Gangbusters? Totally new to me! Shall we do another CD swap in undercurrent.
Craig W Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Craig you've got your options set wrong! At the top of a thread there is two light blue boxes one say's ratings in it and one says options click on that one and the click on standard, you must have it set to linear or somthing Great stuff Baz. You were spot on. Everthings back to normal now.
Tomangoes Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 As always forums are about opinions and this topic looks just about in the originators favour, however I feel that the longer the same records are played over and over, even great classics, the more predictable things are. Even if every 4 or 5 records a lesser played tune is given a chance the bigger the acceptable playlist becomes. With about 10,000 options including Motown/Stax etc, why stick to the top 500. Ed
Pete S Posted October 5, 2005 Author Posted October 5, 2005 As always forums are about opinions and this topic looks just about in the originators favour, however I feel that the longer the same records are played over and over, even great classics, the more predictable things are. Even if every 4 or 5 records a lesser played tune is given a chance the bigger the acceptable playlist becomes. With about 10,000 options including Motown/Stax etc, why stick to the top 500. Ed Different records for different venues. Simple really. If I were somewhere else, I'd play something different. This time, it was gtoing to be well known oldies.
Guest Baz Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Different records for different venues. Simple really. If I were somewhere else, I'd play something different. This time, it was gtoing to be well known oldies. Its simple as you say Pete, if the crowd wants oldies then its no good playing a upfront spot or you'll fall flat on your arse
Craig W Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I dont know if everything Pete played was strictly in the top 500 or something you would hear played at any venue you went to but the point is it was all played off original vinyl , the crowd really appreciated it , and with what superb stuff Dave Rimmer played they had really good value at £3.00 for the night even if I ruined it by playing Gladys . Ive paid £10.00 in some venues and not enjoyed a lot of the music played.
Jumpinjoan Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 I think it was a really good set! Just because you may have heard a record loads of times .... doesn't make it any less of a good record! For me personally the thing that makes a record a truly GREAT soul record is if it's one that sounds as GOOD the last time you heard it, as it did the first time you heard it, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU'VE HEARD IT! There are LOADS in there that i would definitely play ...... if i was lucky enough to have them!
uni ted Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 started something here,unsure if its good or bad,but pete.s. its still northern soul and not west mids soul ha ha.
Chalky Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Exactly what I was thinking (and saying above) Karen. When I posted this, I KNEW there would be people saying 'same old oldies', comments about 'dinosaurs', obviously these people can't read because I said I specifically played these records so that people would dance to them. The punters who came to this do didn't want to be 'educated', they wanted to get up and dance for Gods sake. The dinosaurs comment came about because you questioned whether Gladys was played when it does get played, pretty much everywhere bar the west midlands it seems. I know of several who have asked where they can get the recortd too and know quite a few dealers who have done pretty good business in the record...that good no one needs to go to you it seems Pete As for your set there was nothing wrong with it as far as an oldies set goes, in fact it was a pretty good set, except for Chapter 5 crap uk pop IMO As for what the punters want I wouldn't expect much else from the west midlands, every time I've been in the area it's pretty much all they want...must be the least progressive area in the country but if thats what they want.........
uni ted Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 well said chalky mate ,see you at the next wilton .ted.
Craig W Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 well said chalky mate ,see you at the next Forty Four Club .Craig.
Guest Trevski Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Seminoles, "you can lump it" Just love this track.Going rate anyone. Thanks Dave. should get one for around 250ish. Got mine of ebay for about 80, so keep lookin' Embers on act IV, same record, but a bit harder to get @ about 300 Edited October 5, 2005 by Trevski
Chalky Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 well said chalky mate ,see you at the next Forty Four Club .Craig. not if it's same night as the Wilton you won't
Pete S Posted October 5, 2005 Author Posted October 5, 2005 The dinosaurs comment came about because you questioned whether Gladys was played when it does get played, pretty much everywhere bar the west midlands it seems. I know of several who have asked where they can get the recortd too and know quite a few dealers who have done pretty good business in the record...that good no one needs to go to you it seems Pete As for your set there was nothing wrong with it as far as an oldies set goes, in fact it was a pretty good set, except for Chapter 5 crap uk pop IMO As for what the punters want I wouldn't expect much else from the west midlands, every time I've been in the area it's pretty much all they want...must be the least progressive area in the country but if thats what they want......... Chalky everyone knows the Gladys records have turned up in massive quantities and are practically worthless now. Plus the fact they are not very good records. Chapter Five is worth a million Gladys's or George Hobson's in my opinion. That's just my opinion. It's one of the greatest Northern Soul records ever, simple as that. Love to see how many of the soul police hated it back in 1977.
Chalky Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Chalky everyone knows the Gladys records have turned up in massive quantities and are practically worthless now. Plus the fact they are not very good records. Chapter Five is worth a million Gladys's or George Hobson's in my opinion. That's just my opinion. It's one of the greatest Northern Soul records ever, simple as that. Love to see how many of the soul police hated it back in 1977. I never questioned the rarity of Gladys, know it's about in quantity. Bit I think it's far better record than Chapter Five...just my opinion Never ever liked the Chapter Five!! Edited October 5, 2005 by chalky
Guest Dan Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Ooh I love it, only heard it out maybe 4 times in all the years I have been on the soul scene i've never heard 747 by Saxon but that wouldn't make it good if i did hear it, janine absolute pile of cack - just an opinion though To do what exactly? Andy have a piss probably Chapter Five is worth a million Gladys's or George Hobson's in my opinion. you can't mean it, pete
uni ted Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Chalky everyone knows the Gladys records have turned up in massive quantities and are practically worthless now. Plus the fact they are not very good records. Chapter Five is worth a million Gladys's or George Hobson's in my opinion. That's just my opinion. It's one of the greatest Northern Soul records ever, simple as that. Love to see how many of the soul police hated it back in 1977. pete are you from barrow in furness by any chance if not'its now clear you are having a lark p.s.went to wigan from late 74early75 only good memories involve substance abuse music was %75 pop shit.
Craig W Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 i've never heard 747 by Saxon but that wouldn't make it good if i did hear it, janine Heres a link to 747 by Saxon Dan bieng as you have never heard it https://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hur...6900&cid=600141
Guest Dan Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Heres a link to 747 by Saxon Dan bieng as you have never heard it https://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hur...6900&cid=600141 that's quality craig you gotta love biff byford and those skin tight yellow strides ...tryina getta message through...radio op-er-ator... favourite line: 'we were...strangers in the night...both on...separate flights' you just don't get manglish like that in NWOBHM rock these days! who said great comedy was dead by the way sorry for going way off topic in the above everybody
Guest taylormadesoul Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Can't see a problem Pete! Great sets agree ...great set Pete....although mine might not be to everyones taste................ played out at local event on saturday night... in no order...................... JUDY FREEMAN & BLACKROCK - HOLD ON.......US RCA SAM DEES - LONELY FOR YOU BABY.....US SSS INTERNATIONAL GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS - STOP AND GET A HOLD OF MYSELF...US MAXX RECORDS SPENCER WIGGINS - LETS TALK IT OVER........UK SOUL SERIES SAN FRANCISCAN TKOs - MAKE UP YOUR MIND............UK KENT PEPPERMINT MEN - DREAM IVE ALWAYS HAD...........C/U DELEGATES OF SOUL - ILL COME RUNNING BACK........US UPLOOK THE MONTCLAIRS - HEY YOU ! DONT FIGHT IT...............US ARCH RECORDS GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS - NO ONE COULD LOVE YOU MORE.....UK TAMLA MOTOWN MARVIN SMITH - WHO WILL DO YOUR RUNNING NOW...........US MAYFIELD COOPERETTES - WIN ALL YOUR LOVE.....US I-D-B RECORDS....**FINALLY AFTER 10 YEAR HUNT** BOBBY HUTTON - COME SEE WHATS LEFT OF ME....US PHILIPS THE IMPRESSIONS - I NEED YOU.........DUTCH ARTONE GARLAND GREEN - GIRL I LOVE YOU........US REVUE ALBERT JONES - FIFTEEN CENT LOVE....US KAPP THE ULTIMATIONS - WOULD I DO IT OVER......US MAR-V-LUS FOUR TOPS - ASK THE LONELY....UK TAMLA MOTOWN E.P WALTER JACKSON - LET ME COME BACK.........US BRUNSWICK EXPORTATIONS - I WANT YOU.............US VIR-RO JAN JONES - INDEPENDENT WOMAN.......US DAY-WOOD COLLINS AND COLLINS - TOP OF THE STAIRS...........US A&M BOBBY REED - THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR LOVE....US BELL BESSIE BANKS - DONT YOU WORRY BABY.....US QUALITY ALMETA LATTIMORE - THESE MEMORIES....US MAINSTREAM THE TOPICS - BOOKING UP BABY.....US MERCURY
Guest dodger Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Different records for different venues. Simple really. If I were somewhere else, I'd play something different. This time, it was gtoing to be well known oldies. The problem with posting playlists is that they can never reflect the atmosphere in a venue or how well the records are received by a crowd. A list of unknown/rare or whatever type tracks will always have the 'progressives' ooh'ing and ahh'ing saying 'nice spot Mr. DJ' but may have had the crowd at the venue sat round the edges with long faces, whereas a list of well known tunes will always incur the criticism of the 'progressives' but more than likely will have had a venue jumping and all the paying punters being made happy doing what they go there to do, i.e. doing that slidey dance from side to side. I know plenty of DJ's who don't post playlists for this very reason. As Pete in effect says, horses for courses and all that palava.
Jordirip Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 As for what the punters want I wouldn't expect much else from the west midlands, every time I've been in the area it's pretty much all they want...must be the least progressive area in the country but if thats what they want.........
Bigsoulman Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 The problem with posting playlists is that they can never reflect the atmosphere in a venue or how well the records are received by a crowd. A list of unknown/rare or whatever type tracks will always have the 'progressives' ooh'ing and ahh'ing saying 'nice spot Mr. DJ' but may have had the crowd at the venue sat round the edges with long faces, whereas a list of well known tunes will always incur the criticism of the 'progressives' but more than likely will have had a venue jumping and all the paying punters being made happy doing what they go there to do, i.e. doing that slidey dance from side to side. I know plenty of DJ's who don't post playlists for this very reason. As Pete in effect says, horses for courses and all that palava. Well said mate!
davidwapples Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 PEPPERMINT MEN - DREAM IVE ALWAYS HAD...........C/U why is this still covered up , everyone knows what it is , ive even said it on here before dav
Jumpinjoan Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Chapter Five is worth a million George Hobson's in my opinion. Oh my giddy aunt .....
Guest Phil Richards Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 Different records for different venues. Simple really. If I were somewhere else, I'd play something different. This time, it was gtoing to be well known oldies. You sound just like a dj pete
Guest Phil Richards Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 The dinosaurs comment came about because you questioned whether Gladys was played when it does get played, pretty much everywhere bar the west midlands it seems. I know of several who have asked where they can get the recortd too and know quite a few dealers who have done pretty good business in the record...that good no one needs to go to you it seems Pete As for your set there was nothing wrong with it as far as an oldies set goes, in fact it was a pretty good set, except for Chapter 5 crap uk pop IMO As for what the punters want I wouldn't expect much else from the west midlands, every time I've been in the area it's pretty much all they want...must be the least progressive area in the country but if thats what they want......... Least progressive area in the country????? how do you make that out do
Pete S Posted October 6, 2005 Author Posted October 6, 2005 Least progressive area in the country????? how do you make that out do Just let them get on with it Phil. People know what you play, know what Dave Rimmer plays; least progressive? No, just don't play shitty obscurities guaranteed to empty the dance floor.
uni ted Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 pete if you were playing to a progressive crowd whos records would you borrow then,once you sell them they are no longer yours,your leaving yourself wide open,to people with a sense of humour.
Pete S Posted October 6, 2005 Author Posted October 6, 2005 pete if you were playing to a progressive crowd whos records would you borrow then,once you sell them they are no longer yours,your leaving yourself wide open,to people with a sense of humour. What's your obsession with me and what I play? Not another stalker...
SteveM Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 What's your obsession with me and what I play? Not another stalker...
uni ted Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 What's your obsession with me and what I play? Not another stalker... now now i am a virgin,and i have only once boiled a bunny,so be gentle.
jocko Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 It's one of the greatest Northern Soul records ever, simple as that. Love to see how many of the soul police hated it back in 1977. The old soul police had stopped going in 1977 because the music was so bad, they didnt return until 1979, along with the then new breed of soul police, younger and even hungrier for decent music, when it became a soul scene again. Am sure I read this in the In Crowd somewhere. Cheers Jock
Pete S Posted October 6, 2005 Author Posted October 6, 2005 The old soul police had stopped going in 1977 because the music was so bad, they didnt return until 1979, along with the then new breed of soul police, younger and even hungrier for decent music, when it became a soul scene again. Am sure I read this in the In Crowd somewhere. Cheers Jock Well they got it wrong didn't they because the music was brilliant in 77...it was 78 it all went pear shaped...were you actually there or did somebody tell you about it? Oh right, you read it in a book, well done, Janet & John next week
SteveM Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 The old soul police had stopped going in 1977 because the music was so bad Thats the excuse almost everybody uses for leaving the scene. Its never coz they got married, developed other interests etc. If it was about music, why didn't they come back a couple of years later when Richard Searling (in particular) was playing records to match any era. I don't know if you were around then Jocko, but 79-83 ceratinly wasn't the 'nadir' of the scene as rewritten history would have you believe (including in Kev Roberts Top 500 book ) Wigans attendances were diminishing, but Clifton Hall, Yate,Stafford, Hinckley and others had big attendances. And this isn't a dig at you Pete. Some people DID leave due to the music, but a minority IMO.
jocko Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Thats the excuse almost everybody uses for leaving the scene. Its never coz they got married, developed other interests etc. If it was about music, why didn't they come back a couple of years later when Richard Searling (in particular) was playing records to match any era. I don't know if you were around then Jocko, but 79-83 ceratinly wasn't the 'nadir' of the scene as rewritten history would have you believe (including in Kev Roberts Top 500 book ) Wigans attendances were diminishing, but Clifton Hall, Yate,Stafford, Hinckley and others had big attendances. And this isn't a dig at you Pete. Some people DID leave due to the music, but a minority IMO. My tounge was firmly in Petes cheek on that one, although looks like he saw right through me again. I just love the soul police references, classic. On your more serious point I was there, went to Wigan most Saturdays from early 79, hence my slightly cheek point of saying thats when it got good again, so was there pretty much through the "bad days", also went to Clifton Hall (spoke to you a few times there but I was slimmer and less grumpy then) regularly for a good while and some of the other places you have mentioned on other threads Rebels etc. I was being sarcastic again about the returnees in 1979 ! Not very well obviously Cheers Jock
Billy Freemantle Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 If I had attended that venue,Pete, I would have loved the music - apart from that dreadful Chapter Five ' Boom bang a bang' record. There is subjectivity in what is good or bad. But there is objectivity, too, in styles of music. This is pop of the most unimaginative kind. It has zero to do with Soul. It looks like Northern Soul must have really lost its way by 1977 if this was accepted.
Pete S Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 If I had attended that venue,Pete, I would have loved the music - apart from that dreadful Chapter Five ' Boom bang a bang' record. There is subjectivity in what is good or bad. But there is objectivity, too, in styles of music. This is pop of the most unimaginative kind. It has zero to do with Soul. It looks like Northern Soul must have really lost its way by 1977 if this was accepted. Amazing how people can differ so much. Nobody ever said it was a soul record but it's a fantastic Northern Soul record. We used to have loads of those back then
SteveM Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 My tounge was firmly in Petes cheek on that one, although looks like he saw right through me again. I just love the soul police references, classic. On your more serious point I was there, went to Wigan most Saturdays from early 79, hence my slightly cheek point of saying thats when it got good again, so was there pretty much through the "bad days", also went to Clifton Hall (spoke to you a few times there but I was slimmer and less grumpy then) regularly for a good while and some of the other places you have mentioned on other threads Rebels etc. I was being sarcastic again about the returnees in 1979 ! Not very well obviously Cheers Jock You were slimmer ? Cheers Jock Steve
Billy Freemantle Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Amazing how people can differ so much. Nobody ever said it was a soul record but it's a fantastic Northern Soul record. We used to have loads of those back then Yes, you're right. People do differ. And I think I - and I think many other people differ - because for me most of the time records have to be Soul and Northern Soul at the same time. I don't don't buy this "It might not be soul but it's Northern" line. Obviously lots of folk don't agree - which is why stuff like Chapter 5 and Paul Anka get played. I can appreciate that on the right night, at the right venue with the right atmosphere, they had their day. But that will never make them good. I prefer to stick with the definition of Northern Soul as Soul that was played in the North - not as anything that got played at Northern Soul Clubs. Too much garbage got played under that banner.Having said that, I have to hold my hand up and admit a fondness for Blanche Carter.
Pete S Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 Are you saying too much garbage was played in hindsight, or were you saying it at the time? I was 14 or 15 and I loved Paul Anka, Wombat, Jumping At The Go Go, Afternoon Of The Rhino, Lonely Man, Michael & Raymond, Bobby Paris, Manifesto, David & The Giants - all those mad stompers - I'd never have dreamt to question whether they had soul content or not. And I'm not gpoing to go into denial now because people say they have no soul content. There is a difference between Northern Soul and Soul. I'm not a soul fan. I love Northern Soul though.
Guest Dodger Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Which is why stuff like Chapter 5 and Paul Anka get played. I can appreciate that on the right night, at the right venue with the right atmosphere, they had their day. But that will never make them good. This is why I never bothered with the northern scene during my 'formative' soul years 30 years ago - where I lived, Eddy Edmondson used to run the Ibis Club and I went there a few times because I was buying music by the likes of Leroy Hutson, Lamont Dozier, Impressions, Philly etc. so I thought to myself 'I like soul music, it's called a northern 'soul' night so it must be good' but never really enjoyed the music as a whole as I thought too much of it was just being played 'cos it was something people could do that dance to - yes there were and still are some great records but I was hearing such much of what sounded to me like old white pop records, i.e. Paul Anka as one quoted example but there were loads more that I never bothered to find out what they were because they didn't fit in with the 'soul' that I was buying and loving. But it's like any dance scene, there's always going to be poor tracks played because they fit in with the overall beat and tempo, even on the modern scene nowadays - for instance tracks like Susan Duffy 'Look Me Over' - it's as far removed from a soul record as you can get but it's played and liked by many because it has that tempo but as has been said and as I said about the playlist scenario, right night, right venue, right crowd, the records are loved but as quite rightly (imo) pointed out, that'll never make them good. Roger
Pete S Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 it was just being played 'cos it was something people could do that dance to Roger Well you hit the nail on the head there mate - that's exactly what it's purpose is - it's not to be analised and taken apart, at the end of the day it's music to dance to.
Headsy Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Not really , its a pretty bland midtempo effort in my opinion. But if you really fancy a spot in November PM me and your most welcome. you need to listen to it more than once Craig everybody has different opinions and thats fine, but '' bland mid-tempo '' no way Jose, BELTING crossover dancer IMO
Craig W Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 you need to listen to it more than once Craig everybody has different opinions and thats fine, but '' bland mid-tempo '' no way Jose, BELTING crossover dancer IMO I have listened to it a number of times and still think the same . Put it this way if I had a compilation CD on in my car and this came on I would press the forward button.
MarkWhiteley Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I always enjoy reading playlists from venue reports and the variety of what gets played is unbelievable. Whether it's from the Lifeline, The Orwell, The 100 Club, Oslo Soul, or Japanese radio stations, there appears to be a healthy regard for stuff that doesn't fit in the 'Top 500'. It was with this in mind that I thought it would be good to carry on this thread ( I know it's been done before but I can't find it) and see what people are spinning either in venues or radio stations around the world. I'll kick off with what David and myself played this weekend at the 3 Greyhounds Crossover night in Middlewich. In no particular order..... Jordi Best playlist I've seen in a long time would kill for half the things on that list!
Tomangoes Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 'Name it and claim it' 'In the long run' 'It really hurts me girl' 3 suggestions for your play list this week. Ed
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