Pete S Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 What do we know about this label, if anything, I notice a lot of records are produced by Wardell Quazergue and it's part of the same set up as Hot Line etc, just wondered if there were any recommendations apart from Don & Ron and if there's ever been a compilation?
boba Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 My recommendation for the label is the rarer second sonics 45 "just like delilah". Their first record is also a nice impressions sounding thing. I think pomonkey on here knows a lot about the label and should be able to recommend some more R&B type tunes
Rbman Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) I've got a few RnB things on the label but can't think what at the mo....... Joe Haywood now springs to mind Edited March 21, 2011 by Rbman
Gene-r Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 There's an excellent version of Tom Jones' "Never Give Away Love" by Ron Phillips on White Cliffs. The version by Tom Jones was the original B-side to "Stop Breaking My Heart".
mshoals Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Added by: mshoals on 21 Mar 2011 view all by mshoals Artist: The Sonics Title: Just Like Delilah Label: White Cliffs Label Extra: 208A Type:audio Value: n/a Clip Info: The Sonics - Just Like Delilah
Tim Smithers Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Sunny Ridell / Come out in my world white cliffs 6901, Played it out a fair bit a few years back, great choon ( imho )
manus Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 I seem to remember there's great dancer on White Hills by Joe Wilson ( I think) - I can't recall the title - Anyone? Cheers Manus
Sean Hampsey Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Tommy Ridgley "Did You Tell Him" is an all time fave. Superb Soul record. Sean 1
Sebastian Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Same backing track as Senator Jones "Do You Love Me":
manus Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Really like Joe Haywoods - Hand in Hand too - great midtempo Soul Cheers Manus
JOE TORQUAY Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 I'VE GOT THIS ONE ON A SHELF SOMEWHERE, WHITE CLIFFS # 246 TOMMY DAWN & the SUNSETS # WANTED $10,000 / POOR LITTLE UGLY
Dylan Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Tommy Ridgley "Did You Tell Him" is an all time fave. Superb Soul record. Sean I picked up a copy of this after you reccomended it previosuly some time ago just after I got copies of his river city 45 and yes it is fantastic. I knew you would be on here with this tip when I saw the white cliff title.
Kris Holmes Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 yep, there's some interesting stuff on the label, local LA stuff which is Matassa/Sehorn/Quezergue related, but also some stuff leased from other places (I think the Joe Haywood stuff is an example) essentially went under with Dover distribution.
Guest Dave Turner Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Like this plodder on White Cliffs 230 sonics - come home baby - white cliffs Also Joe Wilson did a couple of nice deep soul bits on the label. "I Want To Love You" - White Cliffs 242 "Now You want To Do Right" - White Cliffs 281 Edited March 21, 2011 by Dave Turner
Dylan Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Like this plodder on White Cliffs 230 sonics - come home baby - white cliffs Also Joe Wilson did a couple of nice deep soul bits on the label. "I Want To Love You" - White Cliffs 242 "Now You want To Do Right" - White Cliffs 281 ohh that sonics is very good never heard it before. My kind of record is there a CD comp available for this label ?
Guest Dave Turner Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) ohh that sonics is very good never heard it before. My kind of record is there a CD comp available for this label ? Yeah, my kinda sound also mate. I don't think there is a comp specifically for the label. However, I'll keep my eye out. There is "Sehorn's Soul Farm" which is a double CD comp of those New Orlean's labels that Marshall Sehorn had a hand in ie White Cliffs, Sansu, Deesu, Tou-Sea etc. https://www.amazon.co...00781840&sr=1-1 Sample tracks here -- https://www.amazon.co...agSuffix=dp_img Some tracks on there that don't do it for me but some nice deeper ballads that do. A decent buy for £7.99 post free. Edited March 22, 2011 by Dave Turner
Harrogatesoul Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Some crackers on this label as mentioned. Dover was a big player oon the distribution side. Not aware of any material being re-issued as Dave states. maybe the Ace guys can help out? Do seem to remember on here or on an auction John Manship stating he bought out the last remaining Dover stock??? Incidentally just picked up Joe Haywoods I Would If I Could/Warm & Tender Love. R&B dancer one side / vers. of Percy on t'other. Brief history of Cosimo Matassa HERE.. Might have an (Incomplete) discography somewhere...
Guest CapitolSC Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 The Sonics Crescent walks a bit of a stomper Al H
mshoals Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Does anyone know of other (jazz) LPs on White Cliffs next to these four? 1001 - The Ronnie Kole Trio - Live At Kole's Corner 1002 - Trombones Beaucoup - Swing Low 1003 - Nickie's Jass Band - Nickie's Jass Band 1004 - ? 1005 - Armand Hug - Armand Hug Plays Jazz Edited March 22, 2011 by mshoals
purist Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Sunny Ridell / Come out in my world white cliffs 6901, Played it out a fair bit a few years back, great choon ( imho ) Think this may have made a brief appearance at Top Of The World, mid 80's ? Sounds great played loud in a venue ! Top Pick Tim !
Ged Parker Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) White Cliffs was distrubuted (unsuprisingly) by Cosimo Matassa's Dover record Distribution Company. I half recall a release on Dover records that used to be played out by Roly Ferguson at The Neighbourhood. I know I spent a long time looking for it but can't at the moment bring it to mind; suddenly I remember it was Alex Spearman Please Baby Please. Dover went bust in late '68 Here what I have on file please feel free to add info: Bill Singai and The Sky Liners – Second Line (Pt 1) / (Pt 2) ~ WHITE CLIFFS 129 Alex Spearman - I'll whip it on you / Down the aisle ~ WHITE CLIFFS 217 (also on CHOCTAW 102) Joe Wilson - Headed for a fall / Goddess of love ~ WHITE CLIFFS 222 Ronnie Kole Trio – Batman Theme / Narom's Blues ~ WHITE CLIFFS 229 Sonics - Crescent walk / Come Home Baby ~ WHITE CLIFFS 230 Alex Spearman- You'll never find another man like me / Stranded in the desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS 232 Joe Haywood – I Would If I Could / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 237 Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242 Tommy Dawn & the Sunsets - Wanted $10,000 Reward / Poor Little Ugly WHITE CLIFFS 246 Joe Haywood – Lets Make It / Hand In Hand ~ WHITE CLIFFS 248 Reggie Hall – Please Please Phone / Shoo Fly ~WHITE CLIFFS 255 Tommy Ridgely – Did You Tell Him / Hey Little Chick ~WHITE CLIFFS 260 Stark Whiteman – We Will Remember / ?? ~WHITE CLIFFS 261 The Swingin' Apolloes - Summertime Blues / Slow Down ~ WHITE CLIFFS 262 (Also on LOOK 001) The One Eted Jacks - Love / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 265 Leroy Bates (This is Lee Bates of Why Don't You Write Fame)- Bad, Bad Understanding/I'm Forever Crying ~ WHITE CLIFFS 270 Garland Hilton – Return of Billie Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World ~ WHITE CLIFFS 273 Joe Wilson - Sam Sam the money man / Now you want to do right ~ WHITE CLIFFS 281 Alex Spearman – You'll Never Find Another Man Like Me / Stranded In the Desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS ??? Sunny Ridell – Come Out In My World / Dont steal my baby ~WHITE CLIFFS 6901?? Edited July 29, 2017 by ged parker
Micksmix Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 The Sonics Crescent walks a bit of a stomper Al H got one for sale,if anyone's interested?
Corbett80 Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242 This is the real in your face Joe Wilson number, great r&s 45
George G Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 There's a garage record by Beaver and the Trappers on WC, it's great. I can look it up at home later today if you want the details. Also the Swingin' Apolloes and One Eyed Jacks are garage-ish.
mshoals Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Title: The Palace Guards - Gas Station Boogaloo DowntownLabel Extra: 286BType:audioValue: n/a Clip Info: The Palace Guards - Gas Station Boogaloo Downtown view clip refosoul page
manus Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242 This is the real in your face Joe Wilson number, great r&s 45 This is the Joe Wilson dancer that I was trying to recall earlier in the thread - great record Thanks to Tony Parker ( Midnight Brew) for the reminder Cheers Manus
Tim Smithers Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 White Cliffs was distrubuted (unsuprisingly) by Cosimo Matassa's Dover record Distribution Company. I half recall a release on Dover records that used to be played out by Roly Ferguson at The Neighbourhood. I know I spent a long time looking for it but can't at the moment bring it to mind; suddenly I remember it was Alex Spearman Please Baby Please. Dover went bust in late '68 Here what I have on file please feel free to add info: Bill Singai and The Sky Liners - Second Line (Pt 1) / (Pt 2) ~ WHITE CLIFFS 129 Alex Spearman - I'll whip it on you / Down the aisle ~ WHITE CLIFFS 217 (also on CHOCTAW 102)Joe Wilson - Headed for a fall / Goddess of love ~ WHITE CLIFFS 222Ronnie Kole Trio - Batman Theme / Narom's Blues ~ WHITE CLIFFS 229Sonics - Crescent walk / Come Home Baby ~ WHITE CLIFFS 230 Alex Spearman- You'll never find another man like me / Stranded in the desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS 232Joe Haywood - I Would If I Could / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 237Joe Wilson - I'm her only man / I want to love you ~ WHITE CLIFFS 242Tommy Dawn & the Sunsets - Wanted $10,000 Reward / Poor Little Ugly WHITE CLIFFS 246Joe Haywood - Lets Make It / Hand In Hand ~ WHITE CLIFFS 248Reggie Hall - Please Please Phone / Shoo Fly ~WHITE CLIFFS 255Tommy Ridgely - Did You Tell Him / Hey Little Chick ~WHITE CLIFFS 260 Stark Whiteman - We Will Remember / ?? ~WHITE CLIFFS 261The Swingin' Apolloes - Summertime Blues / Slow Down ~ WHITE CLIFFS 262 (Also on LOOK 001)The One Eted Jacks - Love / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 265Leroy Bates (This is Lee Bates of Why Don't You Write Fame)- Bad, Bad Understanding/I'm Forever Crying ~ WHITE CLIFFS 270Garland Joe - Return of Billie Joe / ?? ~ WHITE CLIFFS 273Joe Wilson - Sam Sam the money man / Now you want to do right ~ WHITE CLIFFS 281Alex Spearman - You'll Never Find Another Man Like Me / Stranded In the Desert ~ WHITE CLIFFS ???Sunny Ridell - Come Out In My World / ?? ~WHITE CLIFFS 6901?? The flip of Sunny Ridell is Dont steal my baby 6901
mshoals Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Title: The Sonics - So TiredALabel Extra: 208BType:audioValue: n/a Clip Info: The Sonics - So Tired view clip refosoul page
Weingarden Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Two more for the discography (don't have them in front of me for label numbers): Young Jesse, Funky Funky Football (this is Jesse Thomas, who recorded for Ace, Teem, and Tailgate, not Obediah "Young" Jessie) The 5 Royales, I'm on the Right Road Now/Mr. Moon Man (one of the best screaming deep soul records anywhere)
mshoals Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Here's a discography based (for 45s) on R&B Indies, with several titles added. Any additions / corrections are welcome of course. 45s: 200 - Bill Sinigai & The Skyliners - Second Line (Part 1) / (Part 2) 202 - Tony Sullivan - Margaret / I Would If I Could 202 - Reggie Pitassy - Easter Bunny Bring My Daddy Home / I'm Gonna Color My Eggs All Blue 204 - Bob Allen & The Wanderers - It's About Time / Longing For You 205 - Steve Babin - Rambling Baby / Share Your Love With Me 206 - Al Belletto - Have A Very, Merry Christmas / Have A Happy, Happy New Year 207 - Roland Stone - Don't Believe Him Donna / Remember That 208 - The Sonics - Just Like Delilah / So Tired 209 - The Antiques - Taught Me To Care / Glistening Stars Are Shining 210 - Frank Ford - Basin Street Blues / Lonesome Road 211 - 4 Young Men - The First Time / Huggy Bear 212 - The Saxons - What Will Become Of Me / Chippie 213 - The Herrington Sisters - I'll Praise His Name / He Will Stay By Your Side 214 - Don & Ron - I'm So So Sorry / The Girl I Hope To Find 216 - Bob Allen - Lately / I Don't Blame You 217 - Alex Spearman - Down The Aisle / I'll Whip It On You 218 - Marie Dubarry - Why / Never Trust A Man 219 - Hugh Watts - Handy's Blues (Part 1) / (Part 2) 220 - Oscar Jackson - Nosey Woman / Contrary Heart 221 - Emile Guess - What Did You Say To Her / At A Glance 222 - Joe Wilson - Goddess Of Love / Headed For A Fall 223 - China Flair - He's My Man / Baby I Love You 224 - El Pauling & The 5 Royales - I'm On The Right Road Now / Mr. Moon Man 225 - Al White & The Hi-Liters - Jamaica / Them Drums (Part 2) 226 - James & Gang - Act Right / And You 228 - Billy Sheppard - The Phoenix Love Theme / Pack Of Letters, Pack Of Lies 229 - Ronnie Kole Trio - Batman Theme / Narom's Blues 230 - The Sonics - Come Home Baby / Crescent Walk 231 - The Masonic Kings - He Has Never Left Me Alone / Our Heavenly Father's Children 232 - Alex Spearman - Stranded In The Desert / You'll Never Find Another Man Like Me 233 - Ann Daniels - The Names The Same / Love Bug 234 - James & James Gang - Hey Girl / Sorrow 235 - Ronnie Kole Trio - It's Magical You / Tony's Tune 236 - Beaver & The Trappers - In Misery / Happiness Is Havin' 237 - Joe Haywood - I Would If I Could / Warm And Tender Love 238 - The Patriots - Eagle Feathers / Batch O'Nova 239 - The Rocks - Who Do You Love / Keep My Woman Home 240 - Ronnie Kole Trio - Fight Of The Queen Hornet / Campin' 242 - Joe Wilson - I'm Her Only Man / I Want To Love You 243 - The Magnetics - Sacrificing / Tomorrow 245 - Freddie Vel - Come On In Blues / You're The Reason 246 - Tommy Dawn & The Sunsets - Poor Little Ugly / Wanted $10000 Reward 248 - Joe Haywood - Let's Make It / Hand In Hand 249 - The Fabulous Falcons - Dolly / I Wanna Be With You 251 - Glory Rhodes - One Track Mind / Run For Your Life 252 - Ron Phillips - Never Give Away Love / That Man's Got No Luck 253 - Bourbon Street Cabaret Band & Stripping Soc., Inc. - Linda Baby Pt. 1/Pt. 2 255 - Reggie Hall - Shoo Fly / Please, Please Phone 257 - Johnny Minit & The Hands Of Time - Just Someone / Turnaround 258 - Chuck Cornish - A Tribute To Mohammed Ali / Let's Go Steady 259 - Canadian Legends - I'm A Believer / Just One Girl 260 - Tommy Ridgley - Hey Little Chick / Did You Tell Him 261 - Stark Whiteman - Graduation Day / Noise 262 - The Swingin' Apollo's - Summertime Blues / Slow Down 263 - Flip Black - We Got Love / Seven Sundays 264 - Larry Brasso - You're At It Again / Take Part Of Me 265 - One Eyed Jacks - Sun So High / Love 266 - Huey (Piano) Smith And The Clowns - Blues '67 (Part 1) / (Part 2) 267 - Johnny Minit & The Hands Of Time - Nobody Else / ? 268 - Young Jesse - Funky Funky Football (Part 1) / (Part 2) 269 - Palace Guards - No Comin' Back / Gas Station Boogaloo 270 - Leroy Bates - Bad Bad Understanding / I'm Forever Crying 271 - Masonic Kings - Who Is That Walking On The Water / Let Me Tell You 273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World 276 - Canadian Legends - Happy / One And Only 277 - Johnny Minit & The Hands Of Time - Peppermint Choo Choo / ? 281 - Joe Wilson - Sam, Sam Money Man / Now You Want To Do Right 284 - P.A.K. & Company - Chantilly Lace / Heartbreak Station 285 - The Montaltos - Our World / Life Goes On 286 - The Palace Guards - Looking Everywhere / Gas Station Boogaloo Downtown 287 - Red Armand - I'm A Roughneck Now / Say Goodbye 288 - Fay Darling - Love & Hate / All The Loneliness 6901 - Sunny Ridell - Come Out In My World / Don't Steal My Baby 7101 - Patricia Arnell - Al Belletto And Friends / Al Belletto And The Kids - When Christmas Comes / Have A Very Merry Christmas LPs: 1001 - The Ronnie Kole Trio - Live At Kole's Corner 1002 - Trombones Beaucoup - Swing Low 1003 - Nickie's Jass Band - Nickie's Jass Band 1004 - ? 1005 - Armand Hug - Armand Hug Plays Jazz Edited September 20, 2011 by mshoals
Pomonkey Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Yes big fan of White Cliffs, remember when put that Joe Wilson on a mix a few years back when it was an unknown and people went nuts for it as was muy evidenced by the ebay price on the next ones, different league than his other stuff, must admit to being a bit cheesy out sometimes and playing Chuck Cornish back to back with the Senator Jones on Shagg with the same backing, Matt did I trade you that Funky funky Football, sadly got one unheard and was rather let down that doesn't at all live up to the title (much as you and I both love Jesse Thomas I know), more importantly, there's 1 total belter of a title missing from the list above, flip of The Rocks, am sure know where have a spare of it filed away at home too...... Edited March 24, 2011 by pomonkey
mshoals Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 ... a title missing from the list above, flip of The Rocks... Thanks, it's added in the list now...
Marc Forrest Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 I seem to remember there's great dancer on White Hills by Joe Wilson ( I think) - I can't recall the title - Anyone? Cheers Manus That should be "I` m Her Only Man" backed with a very nice typical New Orleans sounding ballad in the shape of "I Want To Love You" ... in my box since a good few years as is also another that so far had no mention in this thread...White Cliffs 233 Ann Daniels "Love Bug" my absolute favourite on the label (at the moment). One you dont see too often but one that is just sooooo good Marc
Anoraks Corner Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Can recommend this dancer for sure...on the New Orleans R'n'B tip, naturally! Flipside is a decent enough ballad as well.
mshoals Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Title: Oscar jackson - Contrary HeartLabel Extra: 220BType:audioValue: n/a Clip Info: Oscar jackson - Contrary Heart view clip refosoul page
manus Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 That should be "I` m Her Only Man" backed with a very nice typical New Orleans sounding ballad in the shape of "I Want To Love You" ... in my box since a good few years as is also another that so far had no mention in this thread...White Cliffs 233 Ann Daniels "Love Bug" my absolute favourite on the label (at the moment). One you dont see too often but one that is just sooooo good Marc Yes that's the one Marc Be great if someone could post it up Cheers Manus
Marc Forrest Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 Yes that's the one Marc Be great if someone could post it up Cheers Manus would like to help you out, but sadly I cant post up files..
Weingarden Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Addition to the discography: 253 Bourbon Street Cabaret Band & Stripping Soc., Inc. - Linda Baby Pt. 1/Pt. 2
mshoals Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Addition to the discography: 253 Bourbon Street Cabaret Band & Stripping Soc., Inc. - Linda Baby Pt. 1/Pt. 2 Thanks, I've added it to the discography above. Do you perhaps know what the record is like?
Kris Holmes Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World Anyone know how this stacks up to his Seven B 45? I never knew he had this other 45 on White Cliffs. I've certainly never seen it in my travels.
mshoals Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World Anyone know how this stacks up to his Seven B 45? I never knew he had this other 45 on White Cliffs. I've certainly never seen it in my travels. I don't have his Seven B 45 to compare, but here's a scan of the White Cliffs 45:
mshoals Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 273 - Garland Hilton - Return Of Billy Joe / The Loneliest Man In The World Anyone know how this stacks up to his Seven B 45? I never knew he had this other 45 on White Cliffs. I've certainly never seen it in my travels. I wonder if he could be the same Hilton as on this Lodestone 45, also from New Orleans. Does anyone know?
Kris Holmes Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 no idea, i might be able to put up a clip of the Seven B later on if anyone wants to hear it. 1
Guest the dukester Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 Can recommend this dancer for sure...on the New Orleans R'n'B tip, naturally! Flipside is a decent enough ballad as well. Me too.... great tune...played it at Brid Weekender and it went down well lots of interest
Weingarden Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 Thanks, I've added it to the discography above. Do you perhaps know what the record is like? I'd call it a heavy jazz instrumental, with slightly soundtracky-sounding trumpet-led melody, busy rhythmic backing (guitar? harpsichord? something odd-sounding), full horn section, nice raw sax solo, and hard New Orleans-style drumming. Part 2 is the same with inexplicably added party/crowd noise. Cool record, but not something one would play at a dance party outside New Orleans itself. Might play at my bar gig or on the radio.
boba Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 busy rhythmic backing (guitar? harpsichord? something odd-sounding), if you hear something that sounds like a harpsichord in a soul song it's probably a clavinet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavinet
Weingarden Posted September 24, 2011 Posted September 24, 2011 Okay, I played that weird Bourbon Street Cabaret Band single on the radio last night, as well as the Sonics' "Come Home Baby." Very end of show: https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/42022
Robbk Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 White Cliffs Records was a subsidiary of Dover Records. Most of the latter that I have seen have White Cliffs Music as their publisher. The distributorship, Dover Records, White Cliffs Records and White Cliffs Music must have been under the same umbrella and ownership, possibly with different co-owning partners in the different subsidiaries.
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