Pete S Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 if you bid say £50.88, do you win it over someone who bids a round £50 or does it only go in whole £'s, so that a bid of £51 would win it?
Mrtag Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 if you bid say £50.88, do you win it over someone who bids a round £50 or does it only go in whole £'s, so that a bid of £51 would win it? You Win Pete!! Unless Some One Goes To Round It Up To The Next £
Pete S Posted March 20, 2011 Author Posted March 20, 2011 You Win Pete!! Unless Some One Goes To Round It Up To The Next £ (will be in touch soon, we've all got or had the vomiting bug here so I'm barely on the net last few days...it feels like you've got the alien growing in your stomach about to burst out!)
Guest Dave Turner Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Explains it here Pete https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/bid-increments.html
Pete S Posted March 20, 2011 Author Posted March 20, 2011 Explains it here Pete https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/bid-increments.html I know it explains it, but I don't understand it, sorry - some things I just can't get my head round
pikeys dog Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Pete, Without going into the mechanics... Let's say the opening bid is £9.99 If you are the first bidder at £50.88 and someone bids £50 - you win it for £50.88 If you are the second bidder at £50.88, you will still beat the £50 bid even though it isn't by the full £1 increment. If you are the third bidder, the first bidding at £49, and the second at £50, you will not win as you have not bid the full £1 as required.
Pete S Posted March 20, 2011 Author Posted March 20, 2011 Pete, Without going into the mechanics... Let's say the opening bid is £9.99 If you are the first bidder at £50.88 and someone bids £50 - you win it for £50.88 If you are the second bidder at £50.88, you will still beat the £50 bid even though it isn't by the full £1 increment. If you are the third bidder, the first bidding at £49, and the second at £50, you will not win as you have not bid the full £1 as required. I see what you mean but I still don't understand Joe. All 3 bids are the same so why is one taken as a partial bid but another as a full bid?
Dylan Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Pete, Without going into the mechanics... Let's say the opening bid is £9.99 If you are the first bidder at £50.88 and someone bids £50 - you win it for £50.88 If you are the second bidder at £50.88, you will still beat the £50 bid even though it isn't by the full £1 increment. If you are the third bidder, the first bidding at £49, and the second at £50, you will not win as you have not bid the full £1 as required. on third scenario here is when you get the message saying you need to increase your bid to be higher than 1 bid increment over the winning bidder.
pikeys dog Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 I see what you mean but I still don't understand Joe. All 3 bids are the same so why is one taken as a partial bid but another as a full bid? Because the automated system will only allow one full increment bid over the current high bid showing.
Jumpinjoan Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Because the automated system will only allow one full increment bid over the current high bid showing. I'm confused. It doesn't take much. Are you saying that even though you have bidded higher, you won't win? I have always bid odd pence thinking that it would win over someone who bids bang on the pound.
pikeys dog Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) I'm confused. It doesn't take much. Are you saying that even though you have bidded higher, you won't win? I have always bid odd pence thinking that it would win over someone who bids bang on the pound. Joan, not "taking the piss" here - but I'll try and simplify it as much as possible. Basically it's all down to the 'current high bid' level rather than what others have placed. Lets say opening bid is 1p. You place a snipe/last minute bid of 80p over another bidder, you will still win even though you have only bid 80p more than the current high bidder, as you still meet the requirement of placing a bid of 'one full increment' over, because even though the other bidder was before you, the current high bid was still only 1p. If however the opening bid was 49.99 and someone had placed a bid of 50.77, your bid of 50.80 would not be accepted, because it is not one full increment over the current high bid of 49.99 This is the case no matter how many bidders there are or what their highest bid is - it's purely down to what price the 'current high bid' is and your ability to place a full incremental bid over that. hard to explain 'on paper' as i can't see what faces you are pulling to what i've written above lol Edited March 20, 2011 by pikeys dog
Chalky Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 doesn't ebay tell you the minimum bid to enter? I also thought it told you your bid wasn't high enough or (un)successful.
KevH Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 So its not all down to snipers like i tend to think.I bid in pounds and pence amounts.
Chalky Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 So its not all down to snipers like i tend to think.I bid in pounds and pence amounts. A snipe bid isn't placed until a second or two to go and a snipe is only good enough if high enough.
Dylan Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 I'm confused. It doesn't take much. Are you saying that even though you have bidded higher, you won't win? I have always bid odd pence thinking that it would win over someone who bids bang on the pound. the point is you are not the high bidder because your bid isn't one increment higher than existing highest so it doesn't register as a bid you get told to bid mreo than a given amount which is one increment more than current highest. I always bid random amounts with uneven numbers and a few pence but I don't think it helps much realy. I never bid exactly 10, 20 or 30 quid.
Dylan Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 doesn't ebay tell you the minimum bid to enter? only enough the amout you have entered already isn't enough then you get that message.
Chalky Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 only enough the amout you have entered already isn't enough then you get that message. well I've just looked at one with 4 bids. Under the bid now box it says the minimum bid, that's without even entering an amount. on this one it tells you $44.00 or more so why would you bid $43.88 for instance?
pikeys dog Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 well I've just looked at one with 4 bids. Under the bid now box it says the minimum bid, that's without even entering an amount. on this one it tells you $44.00 or more so why would you bid $43.88 for instance? You wouldn't/can't - but you could have placed a snipe that wouldn't register because of the 'current high bid' being more than one incremental jump higher than the amount allowed to place it.
Chalky Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 You wouldn't/can't - but you could have placed a snipe that wouldn't register because of the 'current high bid' being more than one incremental jump higher than the amount allowed to place it. exactly, it would be too late to alter you snipe as well. But if you bid normally $43.88 ebay would tell you your bid wasn't high enough and to enter whatever amount or more.
Dylan Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 well I've just looked at one with 4 bids. Under the bid now box it says the minimum bid, that's without even entering an amount. on this one it tells you $44.00 or more so why would you bid $43.88 for instance? thats not the situation i've seen or was trying to explain. The message I mentioned appears after you place your bid so must be when other bids are all landing at the same time ? yes it goes without saying you can't bid higher that the highest bid showing but less than next bid amount as shown below it. Unless you can't follow simple instructions
Guest ScooterNik Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 So what constitutes a minimum increment then?
Prophonics 2029 Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 You can win if you are the first bidder at 50.88 then a second bid at 50.88 means you win with the first high bid. I think with a snipe bid of 49.99 it would say you have been out bid or even pre out bid before the end of the auction but an interesting point Pete. Do you have a sample of a loss with this action.
Pete S Posted March 21, 2011 Author Posted March 21, 2011 You can win if you are the first bidder at 50.88 then a second bid at 50.88 means you win with the first high bid. I think with a snipe bid of 49.99 it would say you have been out bid or even pre out bid before the end of the auction but an interesting point Pete. Do you have a sample of a loss with this action. Probably loads but as soon as I lose I delete the bid so I've never any record, I do occasionally see it when I've bid exactly the same as the winner but still not won it and it does mention ' incrament'. I was wiped out yesterday, bid on 16 items, won 3!
Pete S Posted March 21, 2011 Author Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Highest bid wins - woss all the fuss about? Yes it's so simple that it's had 500 views and 25 odd comments. Edited March 21, 2011 by Pete S
Dylan Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 I put a bit of effort into basically trying to explain you can get outbid on ebay when i've re-read my additions they seem a bit obvious. I'm sure i've had a message after bidding that contradicted what I had just bid but I might be getting that wrong, so if I get the message again i'll take a screen dump and post it up.
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