Guest Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) I Bought loads.......Ten Bob for as many as you could carry.. No wonder they were 'Dirt Cheap' they were all crap!! l did however get a copy of 'Tell Me Why' by Life on Reprise that to this day is one of my favourite tunes of all time How about you? Edited February 24, 2011 by webbydublin
Cheapsiderecords Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Wasn't the Soulful Twins on Sable a Soul Pack record in the early 80's?
Guest jerrio Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Wasn't the Soulful Twins on Sable a Soul Pack record in the early 80's? Yes i got one ,cant remember who from possibly Niel Rushton.
Cheapsiderecords Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I am sure my came in a Soul Bowl pack.
Guest jerrio Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I Bought loads.......Ten Bob for as many as you could carry.. No wonder they were 'Dirt Cheap' they were all crap!! l did however get a copy of 'Tell Me Why' by Life on Reprise that to this day is one of my favourite tunes of all time How about you? Hiya Webby, I HAD A FEW FROM SOUL BOWL,I HAD SOME QUALITY TUNES FROM THEM, WADE FLEMMONS - JEANETTE. DARROW FLETCHER- WHAT GOOD AM I WITHOUT YOU. LOU KIRTON - HEAVEN IN THE AFTERNOON. JIMMY ROBBINS. - I JUST CANT PLEASE YOU TO NAME JUST A FEW. WRIGHTY.
Guest jerrio Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I am sure my came in a Soul Bowl pack. MAYBE YOUR RIGHT,I WILL SAY I WAS NEVER DISSAPOINTED. WRIGHTY.
TOAD Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 a few from a soul bowl pack tobi lark chalange my love topper barbara jean why wernt you there big hit carlena weaver jelousy audel plus lots of X1 chains
Swifty Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Had a couple of packs from Soul Bowl , cant bloody remember what was in them or where the 'kin records went? If only you could go back in time eh!. Actually I remember one was Innersection - let me love you/Im in debt to you - Innersection W/D Also got a couple from Blues & Soul and the one I remeber from them was The Falcons - I'm a Fool I must Love you , which i just bought again a couple of weeks ago. Happy days Swifty
Guest audiavant Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Too Good To Be True-Harvey Scales ,an exclusive at the Apollo,Longton `75/`76`/77.My memory is crap. Len Jewell on Pzazz. Apple and the Three Oranges on Sagittarius and 97 other pieces of landfill! Soul packs make up a lot of the playlists of "underplayed" soul nights-True or False?
Mister Fish Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I got Connie laverne on GSF in a Soul Bowl pack. Sold it at Wigan for £1.25 it was too Modern for me then!
Stuart Bower Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Bought loads in Rotherham, across the road from the tailors, £5 for a random pack of 10. Easily worth it with the occasional hard gem. Most notable find: JACK MONTGOMERY-DON'T TURN YOUR BACK ON ME-BARRACUDA Edited February 24, 2011 by Stuart Bower
Steve L Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Nice to remember the gems but how many crap records did you have to put up with in return? What would you estimate the % of decent records in them? The last one I had was a 50 pack from Pat Brady in the mid 90s, the number of good records wa probably about 8-10 - still got Buckner Brothers on Sanla, Betty Everett Too Hot To hold and a few decent Ric-Tic bits out of it. The crap included Detroit Wheels - Linda Sue Dixon, Jimmy Hughes- Midnight Affair and other such tosh (still got those as well )
davidwapples Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 has anyone tried the anglo american soul packs as advertised in record collector? i get the odd one or 2 packs from john powney now and again and you can specify 70s r&b funk crossover northern etc and have got a few nice bits from there
boff Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Got carl holmes-- soul dance no.3 from a soul pack i think that was one of john manships packs .1980s
Guest FrostyJak Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) Only brought a couple in the 70's, mainly crap but did get some nice Dells tunes & Gloria Lynn - Tower of Strength -Everest, um like i said mainly crap Edited February 25, 2011 by FrostyJak
Guest Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Every other week a brown package arrived from................Blues&Soul The wife(girlfriend at the time) ordered one week then I the following week. Would be 70-73 I reckon and we got some beauties as well. "Incense" Anglos on Fontana Jerry Jackson "Rough Out There" on Cameo Parkway(demo) Formations "Stairs" MGM (demo) and then loads of easy to find but personal gems as well. Happy daze indeed
Guest Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I Bought loads.......Ten Bob for as many as you could carry.. No wonder they were 'Dirt Cheap' they were all crap!! l did however get a copy of 'Tell Me Why' by Life on Reprise that to this day is one of my favourite tunes of all time How about you? I will refute your statement somewhat Phil . Depending on your point of view , and your wish / requirement / expectation for something " extra " special in them , the enigma that was the " Soul Pack " could and would , fail to deliver the goods , leaving you disappointed . During their heyday , I bought countless ones ( even at one period buying " family size " soul packs , which were tea chests full of US imports from a dealer in the south of England ) . I will admit that some of them were below par , but these were matched with numerous ones containing records that gave me pleasure , and more so - my monies worth , for example I compiled a Dells' collection from Soul Packs . I would be hard pressed to list what notable records came from the packs or the chests , and several of them have been listed in previous replies . Two creditable inclusions / finds in sepearate tea chests , were five copies of Dottie and Millie " Talking About My Baby " , and two copies of Tobi Lark " Sweep It Out In The Shed " The duplicates I had - for which as we all know , there were countless - used to go into my sales boxes that I took on my travels , and sold them for 30P - 50P each . Malc
Guest Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) I Bought loads.......Ten Bob for as many as you could carry.. No wonder they were 'Dirt Cheap' they were all crap!! l did however get a copy of 'Tell Me Why' by Life on Reprise that to this day is one of my favourite tunes of all time How about you? I will refute your statement somewhat Phil . Depending on your point of view , and your wish / requirement / expectation for something " extra " special in them , the enigma that was the " Soul Pack " could and would , fail to deliver the goods , leaving you disappointed . During their heyday , I bought countless ones ( even at one period buying " family size " soul packs , which were tea chests full of US imports from a dealer in the south of England ) . I will admit that some of them were below par , but these were matched with numerous ones containing records that gave me pleasure , and more so - my monies worth , for example I compiled a Dells' collection from Soul Packs . I would be hard pressed to list what notable records came from the packs or the chests , and several of them have been listed in previous replies . Two creditable inclusions / finds in sepearate tea chests , were five copies of Dottie and Millie " Talking About My Baby " , and two copies of Tobi Lark " Sweep It Out In The Shed " The duplicates I had - which as we all know , there were countless - used to go into my sales boxes that I took on my travels , and were sold for 30P - 50P each . I hate to think now what these are now fetching Malc Edited February 25, 2011 by Malc Burton
spike1 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Bit off thread here but what was the purpose of the small 3mm 1/8in hole found in some imports!!????? Seem to remember them in the ones from soul packs ?? (or is my memory playing tricks??)
Guest Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Bit off thread here but what was the purpose of the small 3mm 1/8in hole found in some imports!!????? Seem to remember them in the ones from soul packs ?? (or is my memory playing tricks??) My take on / assumption for the drill holes in records , was because they were surplus / cut out stock sold of cheap in the States . Malc
Headsy Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Ringleaders ''baby what has happened'' was another one in the packs, they werent all crap,just a lot of them, it was a long long time ago mind, 35 years.....
Amsterdam Russ Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 has anyone tried the anglo american soul packs as advertised in record collector? I made the mistake of buying one of their soul packs half a dozen years ago. What a waste of money. First off, it was a general soul pack and not a Northern one. At the time of buying there was nothing to indicate that this was the case. As I recall, condition was supposed to be vg+ to ex. What turned up was crumpled box of the cheapest, softest cardboard. Worse, it was too big for the contents and there was no packing materials stuffed inside. This meant that 100 45s, many without sleeves, were unprotected and rattling around freely. Whether this lessened the condition of any of the 45s, I could not guess, for I'd say they were vg at best. Many looked as if they'd been under a steam roller or had been picked up from the fast lane of the motorway. I still have them, forgotten and neglected in a box. I look at them every now and then and wonder what to do with them. The lot included seven crackly 45s from Joe Simon as I recall, and many duplicates. Even at 50p each (or was it a quid a piece?) I felt as if I'd been had. I've never bought from Anglo American again. Looking at the shear numbers of 45s out there now, and the decreasing desire for anything but mid-to-top end items, I think that soul packs are just about to make a come back. The 'job lot' is a regular feature in the sales section nowadays and these will increase as demand continues to fall away.
Harry Crosby Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Bostock records were the best soul packs i bought, 10 records for £1 in the 70`s, loads of stuff came out of there.
Soulfulhound Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Every other week a brown package arrived from................Blues&Soul The wife(girlfriend at the time) ordered one week then I the following week. Would be 70-73 I reckon and we got some beauties as well. "Incense" Anglos on Fontana Jerry Jackson "Rough Out There" on Cameo Parkway(demo) Formations "Stairs" MGM (demo) and then loads of easy to find but personal gems as well. Happy daze indeed Bought a couple of packs from Blues and Soul around 1972 and only got one decent record, "Breakaway" - The Valentines (Sound Stage 7), rumour had it that Dave Godin was picking off the best stuff first. I had bought loads of gems from Soul Bowl (also when they were called Groove City) from '73 onwards, things like Donna Coleman (£3), Mickie champion (£3) etc.. when "Baby dont you weep" was a quid, month in month out and no-one would play it at a nighter because it was too cheap and common! So I sent for the Soulpack (seem to remember it was £10 all in). I remember half of it was 70's crap ,apart from Diane Jenkins - I need you , but the rest were good , Dean Parrish-Bricks, broken bottles & sticks Tina Britt-You're absolutely right, Sandra Phillips-You succeeded Tony Lamarr-Just in the nick of time Four sonics-Tell me you're mine Jackie Shane-In my tenement Junior Wells-Cramp my style Ethics-Standing in the darkness Players-Get right, Billy Davis - Stanky plus many,many more not bad for 10p each eh?
Guest sharmo 1 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 regarding drill holes I have been told that by putting a hole in the record at the time the record is sold as damaged and didn't require tax to be put on at purchase.There was some sort of scandle/fiddle involving organised crime in America at some stage to do with this and I think some heavy people copped a bit of bird for tax evasion. Regarding soul packs me and my mate used to buy soul packs from soulbowl with our paper round money I also had the ringleaders , Jimmy Robbins (2 titles),bobby Valentine,Billy Davis (stamky),and loads of great cheapies. All the best Sy.
KevH Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 regarding drill holes I have been told that by putting a hole in the record at the time the record is sold as damaged and didn't require tax to be put on at purchase.There was some sort of scandle/fiddle involving organised crime in America at some stage to do with this and I think some heavy people copped a bit of bird for tax evasion. Regarding soul packs me and my mate used to buy soul packs from soulbowl with our paper round money I also had the ringleaders , Jimmy Robbins (2 titles),bobby Valentine,Billy Davis (stamky),and loads of great cheapies. All the best Sy. Not deletion holes Simon?
Guest sharmo 1 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Kev that is the first time I've heared the drill holes refered to as deletion holes seems to be a fair explaination to a question at the back of my mind for years thank's kev you've cleared a space in the back of my mind to fill with new fancies.All the best Sy.
Guest brian walker Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I bought quite a few soul packs via blues and soul.in one i got 3 copies of the same record you didnt know how to -the constallations on gemini star and gave jthem away
dthedrug Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 HI ALL THIS LIST FROM GLOBEL (RICHARD S) ONLY SOLD LEGIT RECORDS, IT IS #2, HAS SOMEONE GOT #1? ANY WAY.£36 GOT YOU 1000 SOUL RECORDS, DAE KIL/
Mark Bicknell Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 My opinion of soul packs has always been the same unless the dealer selling them was/is totally clueless then 99 times out of a 100 the contents of a soul pack in most instances will be crap having said that record prices in general of the early 70's were in most cases only a few pounds so perhaps it was more common for the odd decent record to find it's way into a soul pack and peoples comments here confirm that also people dealing in records then like John Anderson had access to many titles in quantity for example I remember John telling me a story when we met up in Chicago a few years ago when he had a major hit with all the One-Derful,M-Pac, Mar-V-Lus labels which included about 800 copies of The Ringleaders so the chances are that a few soul packs around that time would have included a copy?, general rule being if it's too good to be true or a bargain then it was possibly due to error on the dealers part luck or the fact being that no one had a crystal ball to see into the future that a Donna Coleman, Dottie And Millie or Tobi Lark etc. would become £200/300/400 rarities thirty years down the line. Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Guest Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 My opinion of soul packs has always been the same unless the dealer selling them was/is totally clueless then 99 times out of a 100 the contents of a soul pack in most instances will be crap having said that record prices in general of the early 70's were in most cases only a few pounds so perhaps it was more common for the odd decent record to find it's way into a soul pack and peoples comments here confirm that also people dealing in records then like John Anderson had access to many titles in quantity for example I remember John telling me a story when we met up in Chicago a few years ago when he had a major hit with all the One-Derful,M-Pac, Mar-V-Lus labels which included about 800 copies of The Ringleaders so the chances are that a few soul packs around that time would have included a copy?, general rule being if it's too good to be true or a bargain then it was possibly due to error on the dealers part luck or the fact being that no one had a crystal ball to see into the future that a Donna Coleman, Dottie And Millie or Tobi Lark etc. would become £200/300/400 rarities thirty years down the line. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Exactly : you have hit the nail on the head Mark ........ definately a case for many of " if I knew then what I know now " Malc
dthedrug Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 HI ALL, THE BEST PACKS WERE FROM CONTEMPOS! ,AS MOST HAD A FEW MINOR HITS IN THEM, AT LEAST 1 MOTOWN,RECORD IN EVERY BOX, THEY ALSO DID AN EXCELLENT CHESS PACK IT HAD ALL GOODY'S, I HAVE HAD RUBY WINTERS, SANDRA PHILLIPS, JAMES BOUNTY, ALL FROM PACKS, THE BEST PACK WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, FROM NIEL RUSHTON , HIS RIC-TIC PACK 2 DIFFERENT PACKS OF 10, AND ALL MINT DAVE KIL
Little-stevie Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Got mine from Bostock records in Huddersfield Market.. Seem to remember Bettye Swan in most of them plus the mirwood stuff...
Dylan Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I'd be very interested to know if anybody has anything decent in a soul pack in the last say 5 or 10 years. I don't mean a good cheap record that is common I mean something that has gone on to end up being quite obscure and / or valuable. I wouldn';t buy a soul pack in 2011 but thats just me.
Guest Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 HI ALL, THE BEST PACKS WERE FROM CONTEMPOS! ,AS MOST HAD A FEW MINOR HITS IN THEM, AT LEAST 1 MOTOWN,RECORD IN EVERY BOX, THEY ALSO DID AN EXCELLENT CHESS PACK IT HAD ALL GOODY'S, I HAVE HAD RUBY WINTERS, SANDRA PHILLIPS, JAMES BOUNTY, ALL FROM PACKS, THE BEST PACK WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, FROM NIEL RUSHTON , HIS RIC-TIC PACK 2 DIFFERENT PACKS OF 10, AND ALL MINT DAVE KIL Glenn Bellamy also did decent packs . Malc
Guest Dave Turner Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) For Northern I suppose some packs from certain sellers were better than others. I only ever got the Soul Bowl packs and obviously JA was well clued up on what was what at the time. However, tastes have changed dramatically over the years. A lot of crossover, R&B, deep and ballads couldn't hardly be given away in the 70's and ended up in packs. Ok, quite a lot of shite (musically) but quite a few that nowadays would be interesting to collectors of the above genres and also fillers for logo collectors. Also back then there was no Ebay so one couldn't just cherry pick and Ebay the rest to get some return on the cost. I know one thing, I'd like to have a 100 (100 count) Soul Bowl, or any other 1970's period packs for £9 each, unopened in my attic right now. Edited February 26, 2011 by Dave Turner
Harry Crosby Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Got mine from Bostock records in Huddersfield Market.. Seem to remember Bettye Swan in most of them plus the mirwood stuff. Got mine from bostocks in york steve, yep everyone had a Bettye swann in & a Spyder turner if memory serves me right..
Nocker Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Not soul pack this but in the late 70ts Dave Stubbs in Hyde market used to knock out singles, all sorts pop. rock, soul etc at 30, yes thirty, records for a quid! i picked up loads of seventies soul. now collectible tracks, one that springs to mind is Choice of Colour, which goes for upwards of 100 quid now. (I binned a load of C&W as i took a punt on unknowns!!) I am sure others in the area got just as much as me, I used to go home with carrier bags full. also at the time John Hillel was doing "job lots" in his shop in Ashton Under Lyne dirt cheap but not in Dave's league, picked up loads there and John hates it when i remind him and show him a disc's i bought for peanuts from his store. Cheers John
Gene-r Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Has anyone ever had a soul pack padded out with the likes of these? (all original US demos and no boots (OVO), take note!)
jam66 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Steve Grimshaw and myself were down Bostocks one Saturday and I like to think that I pulled out Dottie Cambridge, anyway Steve took it down to the Torch that night and the rest as they say is history, loads of stuff from Bostocks. As a side note in the morning a couple of guys from Preston asked me what the sound was and I could not have told them my own name, good times!
Wiggyflat Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Richard Domar packs..........loads of the One Derful 45's,Ernie Marbray-Aint Nobodys business (multiple copies),Gene Woodbury- Thats Not Half Bad (multiple copies),Sugar Billy-Sugar Pie,Boss 4-Walkin By, Contenders-You Gotta Do,loads of Ric Tic stuff,loads of the Destiny reissue stuff and loads of what people now call "rare soul". Southern bluesy things ....and loads of copies of Otis Clay-Showplace along with the entire Alvin Cash and The Registers output . There were also loads of records with the name Hicky written on them in biro. Edited February 27, 2011 by wiggyflat
21 Again Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Made my night. Bought a lot of big sounds from J.A. early 80s, sent me a box 100 singles by mistake. being the honest person that i am sent them back to John, always wondered if ther was any hidden jems in there. Dont think there was any James Last demos in the pack.
Mark Jones Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Mr Anderson put an Yvonne Baker demo in my 100 record soulbowl pack back in '84 for £14....was p*ssed off as 2 weeks earlier 100 records were £11! Edited February 28, 2011 by soulechoes
Guest Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Spot on Dave, the Contempo/B&S Soul packs were the dogs danglys, I bought enough of them As above, the only decent sounds I remember getting was Breakaway -the Valentines and a Cameo Parkway release SOS Heart in Distress, which I no longer have and cant remember the artiste, although it was a female singer. Edited February 28, 2011 by DanDare
Gilly Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 On a simlar note what about fairground records,you could end up with Carlena Weaver Jealousy Audel
Jerry Hipkiss Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 ...and a Cameo Parkway release SOS Heart in Distress, which I no longer have and cant remember the artiste, although it was a female singer. Christine Cooper on Parkway - found one in a junk shop in Newport around 1975 for 10p, got quite moist thinking I'd found Heartaches away until I turned it over, should have known better as Wilxy had those shops well covered!
Citizen P Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 HI ALL, THE BEST PACKS WERE FROM CONTEMPOS! ,AS MOST HAD A FEW MINOR HITS IN THEM, AT LEAST 1 MOTOWN,RECORD IN EVERY BOX, THEY ALSO DID AN EXCELLENT CHESS PACK IT HAD ALL GOODY'S, I HAVE HAD RUBY WINTERS, SANDRA PHILLIPS, JAMES BOUNTY, ALL FROM PACKS, THE BEST PACK WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, FROM NIEL RUSHTON , HIS RIC-TIC PACK 2 DIFFERENT PACKS OF 10, AND ALL MINT DAVE KIL Never ever got anything, And I know I've mentioned it before but, a good friend of mine got a Contempo/ Blues& Soul one with the Del Larks in it, just as Levine was telling everybody he had the only copy Tony
westrex Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 I remember soul packs from years ago, 10 for £1 from contempo's record shop at 42 Hanway street which was the very last street off Oxford street on the left hand side towards tottenham court road. It wasn't so much a shop, it was a very, very tiny room about 8x8 ft with a counter and millions of title lists on every square inch of wall space, every so often John Abbey would appear to greet customers in between scoffing bacon sanwiches that one of the girls working there would cook and then throw across the room for him. The soul packs consisted of 10 records by well known artists that somehow missed the container saying RUBBISH!! there was always a couple of motown items from artists you'd never associate with motown such as Bobby Darin, Soupy Sales, to name just two. But having said that, I've had the PARLIAMENTS This is my rainy day, PURPLE MUNDI Stop hurting me baby, TERRY CALLIER Look at me now and BILLY ECKSTEIN, I wonder why (nobody loves me) and guess what l did with them. . . yes, l binned them because l was scared to tell people what l'd got for less than 10p each !!! still four biggies in 40 years ain't bad, l wish l'd kept them, but christ, l was only 17 years old when l bought my first pack, be reasonable Tony Warot
Guest Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 Remember going in there one day, Contempo in Hanway St that is, I'd been dragged up to London by Jackie Stringer, who I was courting at the time, to do her shopping Oxford street, While I'm in there in walks John Tappenden and his lady, anyway, I remember we both walked out with copies of She looking good - Roger Collins....two dodgy Bletsoe Geezers, actually I think this was well before Bletsoe, would have been the Wilby/Kellmarsh/Earls Barton period. SOS Heart in Distrss - Christine Cooper were only 1/2 way decent track I picked up from a soul pack.
westrex Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 Kev that is the first time I've heared the drill holes refered to as deletion holes seems to be a fair explaination to a question at the back of my mind for years thank's kev you've cleared a space in the back of my mind to fill with new fancies.All the best Sy. The drill holes were deliberately put through the records so when they came into the uk, they had to be sold as damaged goods therefore could not be sold at the full price. hope that clears up problem for you kev. Tony Warot.
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