Blue Soul Man Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 if someone is offered a box of records, approx. 200 in a silver flight case, especially in Scotland, West Lothian area,please contact Brian on 07565 901145 or Rikki on 07927742016, a scumbag called Ian Brown had a loan of them & has done a moonlight, police informed but dont seem interested in someones prized collection, the guy has no interest or idea of the value so might try to get rid of them in one go, any info would be gratefull..
Raremusicdirect Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Hope you recover the items............
Blue Soul Man Posted February 10, 2011 Author Posted February 10, 2011 they;re my cousins, not holding out much hope, 3 weeks have passed & no one has seen or heard from this lowlife!
Jumpinjoan Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 What an awful thing to happen. Might be an idea to post up a list of what has gone missing just in case people get offered them.
Blue Soul Man Posted February 10, 2011 Author Posted February 10, 2011 i'll have to get a note off them from him, i know one of his faves ''the monzas'' you know you turn me on'' was there
Guest Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I feel for you BUT if "he has no idea of value " etc etc WHY was he loaned them at all????? D a m n sure I wouldn't loan mine out unless to a soul pal of many years standing - sorry m8 but just MHO
Guest Ollie Lailey Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Hope you get em back mate. had a similar thing happen to all my house and dnb records back in the 90s. fingers crossed for you.
Bigsoulman Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I know Rikki and the guy was a neighbour who showed a genuine interest in getting into the soul scene and left them in the guys house in good faith but he realizes it was the biggest mistake of his life, anyone offered a job lot especially in the West of Scotland area please get in touch Cheers Lenny
grant Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 happened to me many years ago with a lad that i went to college with in salford circa 1983-ish, i was out the scene for a bit so had these records around collecting dust, not all rare stuff but there was a carl spencer - cover girl, jewels issue, bobby guitar woods, charades demo, some mint uk demo stuff to name but a few in the 45 box, and as he was from wigan he said he knew a few people who went to the casino so he could sell on for me, never saw him again after that lol, he left the course we were on and everything, like to bump into the fecker again! Hope yours are safely returned mate, may be worth deatilin whats in there in case there are offers on here, ebay etc.
Citizen P Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 happened to me many years ago with a lad that i went to college with in salford circa 1983-ish, i was out the scene for a bit so had these records around collecting dust, not all rare stuff but there was a carl spencer - cover girl, jewels issue, bobby guitar woods, charades demo, some mint uk demo stuff to name but a few in the 45 box, and as he was from wigan he said he knew a few people who went to the casino so he could sell on for me, never saw him again after that lol, he left the course we were on and everything, like to bump into the fecker again! Hope yours are safely returned mate, may be worth deatilin whats in there in case there are offers on here, ebay etc. And me also, left a 50 box and some LPs with a "mate" about 76/77 after doing a spot. Went round to his house a coupla days later and he'd joined the feckin' army Nowt spectacular, but I still miss my Tony Hester T
Bigsoulman Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I think the moral of this story is that NEVER trust ANYONE with your collection but yourself, also NEVER leave your box unlocked at ANY event no matter how friendly you are with everyone there Lenny
Keithw Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) had a similar thing with a sales box mate who i still see about said i will take a few of these to Ireland soul nite to sell for you 400 quid in total when i saw him next and asked for them back he said his mate was sending them back with any monies NOTHING talked to the person he was on about in ireland , said my mate had the records youve guessed it my mate said he had them so i lost out.both blamed each other Edited February 11, 2011 by keithw
Mark Bicknell Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) I Really feel for the bloke here, hurts like hell when you have a few go missing but can't imagine a full box worth, about 15 years ago my wife Jacqui took a small fifty sales box to a soul night locally to us, front of the box, Ollie Jackson - Wipe Away The Tear Drops, Velvet Satins - Demo, Dickie Wonder, Hesitations - Built That Way - Demo, Intros - Jamie Issue and several others were removed from the front of the box by some low life chancer, when Jac got home I was off to an allnighter and as soon as I picked the box up I knew it was light of a few records, opened it up and this cold panic went through me like I'd been hit by a bus, all the tasty sales at the front gone, had no way of finding out who took them and never got them back, all you can wish for is that whoever steals records will have nothing but bad luck, I can't see what pleasure anyone would get by actually playing a stolen record, has to be financial reasons to try and make a fast buck through someone's misery. Good luck and I so hope you get them back, all you can do is move forward as time heals and all that but even after all these years it still angers me to think someone at a soul night could steal from a fellow soul fan, if they wanted the records that bad or did'nt have the funds I would sooner give them the fucker rather than have it stolen. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Edited February 11, 2011 by Mark Bicknell
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 legally it seems that if your are conned and you know the person there is nothing they can or will do, I have a number of a companey who will take the guy to court for you then send in the Bailiffs to get your money or goods back or just do it your selves he must be on the electoral register.
Liljimmycrank Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Sadly it doesn't take anyone long to find out prices of records these days with the internet etc, so i wouldn't bank on the fact the guy doesnt know the value. A simply google search and you're likely to find at least a rough figure of what a record sells for, and as a bi-product will find a media to sell them through. Will defo keep eyes peeled for a job lot. Worth contacting record shops too with a decsription of teh guy, list of records and detailed description of the box. The more info you can provide on here the better (full list if poss).
Shsdave Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I think the moral of this story is that NEVER trust ANYONE with your collection but yourself, also NEVER leave your box unlocked at ANY event no matter how friendly you are with everyone there Lenny Too right Lenny, on the odd occasion that I dj I always keep my records with me, even taking them to the loo. Obssesive maybe but a lot more difficult for somebody to nick 'em when I'm holding on to them Some people may take the piss at me lugging them about but better safe than sorry It's certainly not my mates that I don't trust , it's the people that I don't know that I am careful about The nicking of girlies handbags seem to have gone up recently. I had a jacket stolen from under my nose years ago & realise how quickly something can be taken,
AlanB Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 a scumbag called Ian Brown had a loan of them & has done a moonlight...the guy has no interest or idea of the value so might try to get rid of them in one go, any info would be gratefull.. This is maddening! My sympathies. Even if he got to find out the collector's value of the records, it could be awkward to sell them. A general second hand shop wouldn't pay much. Ebay or a main dealer, surely too much chance of being detected. Likewise trying to pass on in the fairly small world of Scottish soul-collecting. How about focussing on trying to locate him, say by a local advert offering small reward, or using social networking sites, or by using a debtor tracing agency. I think you could get a trace attempt for a modest fee, possibly on a no-find no-fee basis. Good luck. Alan
Guest brianw70 Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 WILL KEEP MY EARS PEELED IN THE DUNDEE AREA . WENT TO ALLNIGHTER AT MORECAMBE IN THE 80S , WHEN I GOT HOME NO RECORDS!! ABOUT 500+ 45S . NO SIGN OF BREAK IN ? THE FECKER THAT RENTED ME THE HOUSE TOOK THE LOT WENT TO LOCAL RECORD SHOP AND SOLD THEM FOR PEANUTS!! WENT TO SHOP TO TELL THE OWNER AND HE PULLED OUT ALL BUT THREE OF MY RECORDS. HE SOLD ME THEM BACK FOR THE SAME PRICE WHICH WAS LUCKY. THE BLOKE THAT SOLD THEM SIGNED HIS OWN NAME WHEN SELLING THEM!! LETS JUST SAY HE GOT A MESSAGE HOPE YOU ARE AS LUCKY AS ME ATB,BRIAN
Guest jerrio Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I Really feel for the bloke here, hurts like hell when you have a few go missing but can't imagine a full box worth, about 15 years ago my wife Jacqui took a small fifty sales box to a soul night locally to us, front of the box, Ollie Jackson - Wipe Away The Tear Drops, Velvet Satins - Demo, Dickie Wonder, Hesitations - Built That Way - Demo, Intros - Jamie Issue and several others were removed from the front of the box by some low life chancer, when Jac got home I was off to an allnighter and as soon as I picked the box up I knew it was light of a few records, opened it up and this cold panic went through me like I'd been hit by a bus, all the tasty sales at the front gone, had no way of finding out who took them and never got them back, all you can wish for is that whoever steals records will have nothing but bad luck, I can't see what pleasure anyone would get by actually playing a stolen record, has to be financial reasons to try and make a fast buck through someone's misery. Good luck and I so hope you get them back, all you can do is move forward as time heals and all that but even after all these years it still angers me to think someone at a soul night could steal from a fellow soul fan, if they wanted the records that bad or did'nt have the funds I would sooner give them the fucker rather than have it stolen. Regards - Mark Bicknell. HAD A LOT OF RECORDS GO MISSING ONCE,WOULDNT WISH IT ON MY WORST ENEMY,IT STILL HAUNTS ME TO THIS DAY IF I LET IT..IT MAKES ME FEEL SICK WHEN I HEAR OF THINGS LIKE THIS,I REALLY HOPE YOU GET THEM BACK OR AT LEAST CATCH UP WITH THE TW@ REGARDS.WRIGHTY.
Lenny Harkins Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) I know Rikki and the guy was a neighbour who showed a genuine interest in getting into the soul scene and left them in the guys house in good faith but he realizes it was the biggest mistake of his life, anyone offered a job lot especially in the West of Scotland area please get in touch Cheers Lenny Ears to the ground on this one, should they appear through here, they will be confiscated and returned. Lenny (the unreleased Harkins version) Edited February 11, 2011 by lenny h.
dthedrug Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 :hatsoff2:Hi All ...Well here we go again, and like Mark has already stated and I am on record stating my hatred for this type of activity, yes I have nicked a few records in my life out of junk shops and of Hippy types, and it was a common event in the early 70s, I was quite often offed a handful of records in exchange for dubes or a wrap of speed (in fact my 1st northern soul collection was obtained with money i made from dealing speed) when i think of the old days it is amazing what a wrap of sulfate could buy at 3.30am, However I have also had my box nicked and when this happens, in my case my mates just turned a blind eye to the theft??? you would be surprised if you new who witnessed the theft, OK that was a long time ago, and we have all grown up since then, To hear that in 2011 a box has gone really means a big theft, and should be treated as such, if the old bill don't help, you are left with 2 choices 1, let the thieve get away with it, 2, Name & Shame the person and contact people like me to retrieve them for you, a quick visit thats all that needed to get a result, AS ALWAYS DAVE
mischief Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Just a thought may be worth getting in touch with local scooter clubs... he may move them on that way... hope he gets them back...
Blue Soul Man Posted February 11, 2011 Author Posted February 11, 2011 will do, but the thief is an oppurtunist, doesn't know the value of soul records, so i dont know what his plan is,
Nz Soul Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 hope the records turn up why not also put it on soulboys promo and shaz and the gang will lookout as well
Guest I KNOW NOTHING Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 i had nearly 3000 "nicked". i got divorced, moved away to let the dust settle. come back couple months later NO RECORDS. the bitch sold them. he could try LOOT if they have that in scotland. you just answer an advert for records wanted, they come give you the cash and leave. ps. 6yrs later she still wont tell me who she sold them to.
Jumpinjoan Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) will do, but the thief is an oppurtunist, doesn't know the value of soul records, so i dont know what his plan is, I bet he does have some idea. If he seemed interested in soul (which it would appear from your posts he was) and you were telling him about it I would guess price would have been mentioned somewhere along the line without you even realising it. I would have had a list posted on here by now if they had been my records that had been taken. Edited February 12, 2011 by jumpinjoan
Mrtag Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I Think Joan's Right You Know!! Get A List Run Off and Posted!! Then Try Distributing The List To Promoters In Your Area If They Put It Out At Their Venues Collectors Etc Will Be Made Aware!! You Never Know!! Good Luck Atb John.
Mrtag Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 if someone is offered a box of records, approx. 200 in a silver flight case, especially in Scotland, West Lothian area,please contact Brian on 07565 901145 or Rikki on 07927742016, a scumbag called Ian Brown had a loan of them & has done a moonlight, police informed but dont seem interested in someones prized collection, the guy has no interest or idea of the value so might try to get rid of them in one go, any info would be gratefull.. Get Round Your Local Cash Converters, Second Hand Shops Etc, If He Doesn't Know Values Etc Seems Like The Most Likely Place To Offload The Lot!!
Jumpinjoan Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I Think Joan's Right You Know!! Get A List Run Off and Posted!! Then Try Distributing The List To Promoters In Your Area If They Put It Out At Their Venues Collectors Etc Will Be Made Aware!! You Never Know!! Good Luck Atb John. Would be an idea to send the list out to record dealers too. The more pro-active you are the harder it will be for him to off load the records.
soul45s Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Why not put an advert on ebay uk? In the title bar, put Stolen Northern Soul Records in Scotland It'll only cost you pence List a couple of the titles, the area where they were nicked from etc, offer a reward...just an idea Anyway, hope you get sorted cheers Paul
Guest ScooterNik Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 I'll post this over to a couple of scooter websites for you, I know a few scottish lads through one of them.
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