Up & Coming Soul D.j's

[Guest Baz]

Just cause they are under 30 shouldn't automatically give anyone the right to dj 

Anyway isn't this being ageist or whatever they call it   

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Totally agree with you Chalky, or any one over 30 for that matter........have herd plenty of 'DJ's' who cant string a spot together for example playing a 70's tune inbetween two R&B records or visa versa

For my two penneth worth i would think in the right enviroment, us yung uns would try to be a little more experimental

Edited September 1, 2005 by Baz

[Chalky]

Totally agree with you Chalky, or any one over 30 for that matter........have herd plenty of 'DJ's' who cant string a spot together for example playing a 70's tune inbetween two R&B records or visa versa   

For my two penneth worth i would think in the right enviroment, us yung uns would try to be a little more experimental

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I try and be a little more experimental whatever the environment by that I mean I don't conform to the same old same you hear week in week out

[Guest dundeedavie]

personally i don't see the music being that different in a young un's room than it would be in any other room , just younger people playing it.

an upfront crowd will breed an upfront playlist , an oldies crowd and yer dead on yer arse if you try and experiment ...

ps .. merely opinions

Davie

[Guest Baz]

  by that I mean I don't conform to the same old same you hear week in week out   

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There's plenty of people doing that week in week out

[Guest Baz]

personally i don't see the music being that different in a young un's room than it would be in any other room , just younger people playing it.

an upfront crowd will breed an upfront playlist , an oldies crowd and yer dead on yer arse if you try and experiment ...

ps .. merely opinions 

Davie

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That what i ment Davie! you put it into better words than me

[Guest dundeedavie]

That what i ment Davie! you put it into better words than me

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lolol was a pleasure

Davie

[Chalky]

personally i don't see the music being that different in a young un's room than it would be in any other room , just younger people playing it.

an upfront crowd will breed an upfront playlist , an oldies crowd and yer dead on yer arse if you try and experiment ...

ps .. merely opinions 

Davie

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errr..I agree

[Guest dundeedavie]

I try and be a little more experimental whatever the environment    by that I mean I don't conform to the same old same you hear week in week out   

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funny , you accused me of "trying to hard to be different " for doin the same thing

Davie

[Chalky]

funny , you accused me of "trying to hard to be different " for doin the same thing 

Davie

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that was cause you were playing Elvis

[Dave]

an upfront crowd will breed an upfront playlist , an oldies crowd and yer dead on yer arse if you try and experiment ...

ps .. merely opinions 

Davie

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Yes, but isn't fair to say that the younger DJs wouldn't be at a venue that attracted just the entrenched "top 500" crowd?

[Guest]

I loathe young DJ's, and their progressive playlists, i want my DJ's in a near catatonic state, stinking like "Otters" and remembering nothing beyond the last seven minutes......

[Chalky]

Yes, but isn't fair to say that the younger DJs wouldn't be at a venue that attracted just the entrenched "top 500" crowd?

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why does everyone associate young uns with an upfront music policy? In my experience I've often found young uns (not all I might add) to be some of the worst offenders when it comes to oldies and upfront

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[Guest Jamie]

I loathe young DJ's, and their progressive playlists, i want my DJ's in a near catatonic state, stinking like "Otters"  and remembering nothing beyond the last seven minutes......

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[Dave]

why does everyone associate young uns with an upfront music policy?  In my experience I've often found young uns (not all I might add) to be some of the worst offenders when it comes to oldies and upfront 

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I can only comment on the ones I have heard.....and they ain't too inclined towards the, erm, "classics"

[Chalky]

I can only comment on the ones I have heard.....and they ain't too inclined towards the, erm, "classics" 

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and so it should be, plenty of great underplayed/forgotten oldies out there that need playing. The only thing letting the young uns down is they just don't have the knowledge, experience or contacts of some of the older upfront guys to compete on an even footing, not on the so called "newies" scene. But then again they shouldn't really try and compete, just do there own thing, go with the records that they have some belief in and just keep plugging away, their time will come sooner rather than later if they are good enough

[chrissie]

There is a few on here, all playing somthing alittle differnt too, not your to 100 ect.....

The soulsville lads, Jamie & Rich

James Trouble

Rachel

Richard Bergman

Richard Walker

Matt Bolton

My self

All though i think most of us would consider ourself's more collectors who, spin on occations

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OOOOps must need new glasses

QoF

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[Guest dundeedavie]

that was cause you were playing Elvis 

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yeah i did ..... and i still do

i noticed it appeared on the stow-a-way soul playlist also

maybe it's just a case of playing what I believe in , no?

Davie

[Chalky]

yeah i did ..... and i still do

i noticed it appeared on the stow-a-way soul playlist also 

maybe it's just a case of playing what I believe in , no?

Davie

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god help us!!!

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[Chalky]

OOOOps must need new glasses

QoF

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why do you need new glasees?

[Guest dundeedavie]

god help us!!!

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too late for that lol

Davie

[Chalky]

too late for that lol 

Davie

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not for me it ain't.....

[Guest dundeedavie]

not for me it ain't.....

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in all honesty it takes a certain kind of person to play elvis to a soul crowd

Davie

[chrissie]

why do you need new glasees?

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Cos I mentioned Rachel and someone already had done and was very quick to point it out to me on another thread.

Baz!!!! I am keeping a maternal eye on you

QoF

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[Chalky]

Cos I mentioned Rachel and someone already had done and was very quick to point it out to me on another thread.

Baz!!!! I am keeping a maternal eye on you

QoF

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oh I see

[Guest Baz]

Baz!!!! I am keeping a maternal eye on you

QoF

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[Dave]

and so it should be, plenty of great underplayed/forgotten oldies out there that need playing.  The only thing letting the young uns down is they just don't have the knowledge, experience or contacts of some of the older upfront guys to compete on an even footing, not on the so called "newies" scene.  But then again they shouldn't really try and compete, just do there own thing, go with the records that they have some belief in and just keep plugging away, their time will come sooner rather than later if they are good enough

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Agree wholeheartedly about underplayed oldies.

As to the sweeping statement about the "newies" side of things, which I suspect was made with tongue firmly in cheek , I've heard records played by the younger element, as recently as this weekend, that would be completely new plays on this scene.

[Chalky]

Agree wholeheartedly about underplayed oldies.

As to the sweeping statement about the "newies" side of things, which I suspect was made with tongue firmly in cheek , I've heard records played by the younger element, as recently as this weekend, that would be completely new plays on this scene.

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I take it that was from JTrouble, probably an exception How many can you think of that can play a set of unknowns? Some names and an example of what they play would be nice

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[Guest dundeedavie]

I take it that was from JTrouble, probably an exception    How many can you think of that can play a set of unknowns?

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that an interesting question

Davie

[Chalky]

At the end of the day (IMO) it's not the young dj's who are the future but the younger dancers. It doesn't matter who plays the records. Some of the top newies, upfront dj's these days have yet to hit 40 so in theory have over 20 to 30 years in them looking at the age of some of the scene. It's also took many of the older 'uns years to get where they are as well so it ain't gonna happen over night for some sprightly 20 something

What happens when some of the young ones, the future as some have said get married, have kids, careers start to get in the way?? They will go the way as many did years ago, drop off the scene, so where will the future be then.

If the young guns are seriously the future then they also have to bring with them the scenes future newies and I don't see many out there breaking new records, simply for the reasons I stated in an earlier post.

Granted some do have some unknowns, but where did they come from, chances are from one of the older generation. If that is the case then why did one of the older generation sell it????

At the end of the day it may be all irrelevant, I don't see enough young 'uns coming on the scene to sustain it for years to come.

[Dave]

I take it that was from JTrouble, probably an exception    How many can you think of that can play a set of unknowns?  Some names and an example of what they play would be nice 

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Now you ARE being mischievous

An exception....possibly - but I can't think of many of any age who would play a complete set of unknowns..... and what constitutes an unknown anyway?

A lot turn out to have been played in the past, however infrequently, and are remembered by somebody.... that's come up on here enough times!!

Names? you've supplied one and I can also remember hearing Little Richard play one or two a while back that were new to me personally but its no good asking if I can remember now the name of a record I heard at 2.00am one Sunday morning in July

[Chalky]

Now you ARE being mischievous   

An exception....possibly - but I can't think of many of any age who would play a complete set of unknowns..... and what constitutes an unknown anyway?

A lot turn out to have been played in the past, however infrequently, and are remembered by somebody.... that's come up on here enough times!!

Names? you've supplied one and I can also remember hearing Little Richard play one or two a while back that were new to me personally but its no good asking if I can remember now the name of a record I heard at 2.00am one Sunday morning in July 

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just palying devil's advocate or trying to get debate going

As for a set of unknowns....I can think of three but they are all older 'uns Trouble is breaking new sounds, todays scene don't have the tolerance or patience of eras gone by unfortunately.

[Guest dundeedavie]

      just palying devil's advocate or trying to get debate going 

As for a set of unknowns....I can think of three but they are all  older 'uns    Trouble is breaking new sounds, todays scene don't have the tolerance or patience of eras gone by unfortunately.

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a serious question though , can a young dj break a new tune ? or do you need the reputation to be able to do it ?

Davie

[Guest Baz]

a serious question though , can a young dj break a new tune ? or do you need the reputation to be able to do it ?

Davie

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Or is it not the fact that lesser know DJ's have been doing that for donkeys years, but at the end of the day if a Big name picks up on it its common knowlage they broke it

[Dave]

At the end of the day (IMO) it's not the young dj's who are the future but the younger dancers.

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Now that is a very good point

Although we're slipping into a subject thats filled many pages on here before, I have to say that I've generally seen a bigger proportion of new, and younger, faces at smart venues promoted/played by the younger DJs.

I'm not sure that new records are sole answer to getting these people interested..... I think variety is the more important factor!

As you said before, there are so many underplayed/forgotten records and they can equally well provide that variety.

What is a turnoff to many is the playing of moderate records just because they bring back memories of 1973 to some

[Chalky]

a serious question though , can a young dj break a new tune ? or do you need the reputation to be able to do it ?

Davie

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a reputation helps..and the bookings of course. But there should be no reason why a young dj can't break a new record to the scene if his or her sets are good enough, presented right. They also need the bookings, which like I said if they are good enough will come their way. (all IMHO of course)

[Reg]

Richard Bergman a young gun? You're having a laugh-he was born 50

P.S He has got great records tho..whatever his real age..(maybe I'm a little bit biased.... )

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[Guest Baz]

Or is it not the fact that lesser know DJ's have been doing that for donkeys years, but at the end of the day if a Big name picks up on it its common knowlage they broke it

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I would imagen they would have the bigger scope of putting said record about to the mass's more, which in turn would cause a record to end up as there's....where as some one leser know would not have the wider audiance

Answering myself now

[Guest Jamie]

Pretty much agree with everything Chalky has said.

Pretty much everything has been discovered (that's worth discovering!) in the Mid 70's onwards so I'm never gonna play a set of unknowns. Undiscovered stuff goes for over 4 figures if it's any good. Plus they get offered to the big boys because the have the cash, profile and experience.

However Mr Trouble isn't short of a few quid (compared to a bum like me anyways )

I don't have the means, financial, contacts or otherwise to become a DJ. If my financial situation changed i.e. I won the £36M roll-over this weekend, then maybe my outlook on the matter would change.

I'm struggling just to keep a roof over my head at the minute, so no way can I buy any big tunes. I have to dig about and find a few cheapies to play some new tunes.

I've even had to sell a few and send the odd one in for auction to raise a bit of cash. Half my recent new records are as a result of trades. I'm basically getting shut of my Oldies to change my playlist a little bit.

I set out to collect and never wanted to get rid of any of my records, but needs must and all that. I've been on the verge of selling up completely a number of times very recently just to solve my money problems.

I'm pretty realistic, I know my limits and I'm quite happy to put a little night on in Leeds with quality guests and playing the odd tune myself.

I'm also really pleased to get asked to play anywhere else, but looking at the whole picture I know I'm never gonna pull up any trees, but I'm enjoying myself just doing what I'm doing.

If I never played again I'd be happy with my lot. I've met some great people, played at some great venues and been on the same line-up with some big names and people I really respect.

That's about it really.

Jamie

[Guest ShaneH]

how did rich buckley sneak into the young guns list?

Shane

[Guest Baz]

I'm pretty realistic, I know my limits and I'm quite happy to put a little night on in Leeds with quality guests and playing the odd tune myself.

I'm also really pleased to get asked to play anywhere else, but looking at the whole picture I know I'm never gonna pull up any trees, but I'm enjoying myself just doing what I'm doing.

Jamie

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Top fella, my sentiments too

[Guest Little Miss Soul]

Ian Williams from Bristol (or Brizzle, depending where in the country you are) and Steve Harry from Swindon are good.

Young, upcoming and full of..........soul!

TIP: If you are ever in the Bristol area, check out the getting together evenings.

[Guest dundeedavie]

Or is it not the fact that lesser know DJ's have been doing that for donkeys years, but at the end of the day if a Big name picks up on it its common knowlage they broke it

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thats closer to my opinion i think

Davie

[Guest ShaneH]

Rich & Jamie sneaking into the 'young guns' dj booth.........

Shane

[Dave]

Richard Bergman a young gun?  You're having a laugh-he was born 50

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Never!!

[Reg]

Never!!

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That is a familiar sight

[Guest dundeedavie]

Never!!

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you might have cropped it ...i'm stood there with me hands in pockets , very slovenly lol

Davie

[Mark B]

i dont see what difference age makes as to playing good tunes as for younger guys with unknowns to play adam leaver springs to mind he has supplied some of the well known dj's and collectors with extremely good stuff, as was said before by jamie and someone else there is very little to be discovered now, other than unnissued stuff

i am in the same boat as jamie i put on a little soul night and get to play there and if i get asked to play anywhere else i am really chuffed the only difference is i am an old git

and i too cannot afford to spend thousands on so called one off's so rely on the lesser known and cheaper stuff

mark