Posted December 31, 201014 yr Yes, the soul version of the Chicago tune. Its still stuck in my head after all these years. "As I was walking down the street one day..........................." Many thanks in anticipo
December 31, 201014 yr Wasn't it Copper 'n' Brass. https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/d/49604/COPPER_N_BRASS Edited December 31, 201014 yr by modernsoulsucks
December 31, 201014 yr On 31/12/2010 at 15:37, modernsoulsucks said: Wasn't it Copper 'n' Brass. I've said Tension but I think you're right, Rod.
December 31, 201014 yr Author On 31/12/2010 at 15:37, modernsoulsucks said: Wasn't it Copper 'n' Brass. Well thanks there MSS---------------------but how is it that every time Ive asked you in the past you've never come up with an answer????? Point 2---------------------Modern innit?
December 31, 201014 yr On 31/12/2010 at 15:47, souljer6 said: Well thanks there MSS---------------------but how is it that every time Ive asked you in the past you've never come up with an answer????? Point 2---------------------Modern innit? Dont know because I dont remember hearing it at the Mecca, so it was just a guess.
December 31, 201014 yr I think he's referring to me Jaco but his post was poorly expressed as is to be expected from a moron who had to re-sit his "A" levels. I don't recall Richard ever asking me previously but if he did I probably ignored him in case he went out and bought it. He has enough awful records in his collection as it is. The only person I know with a large collection, the value of which starts with a minus sign. ROD Edited December 31, 201014 yr by modernsoulsucks
December 31, 201014 yr On 31/12/2010 at 15:33, souljer6 said: Yes, the soul version of the Chicago tune. ...Surely 'the soul version' of DARKWTII is actually Chicago's own version?
December 31, 201014 yr Author On 31/12/2010 at 16:07, TONY ROUNCE said: ...Surely 'the soul version' of DARKWTII is actually Chicago's own version? Obviously you're a Southerner. We've got a lot more street cred up North.
December 31, 201014 yr Funny you should mention this because i've bought a pile of Lps today and in amongst them is J J jacksons dilemma Lp from 1970. Track 2 side 1 is Does anybody know what time it is which I've listened to a few times and its a much better version than Copper n brass IMO. Would put a soundfile up but refosouls down at the moment so will try in the future.
December 31, 201014 yr On 31/12/2010 at 16:32, craig W said: Funny you should mention this because i've bought a pile of Lps today and in amongst them is J J jacksons dilemma Lp from 1970. Track 2 side 1 is Does anybody know what time it is which I've listened to a few times and its a much better version than Copper n brass IMO. Would put a soundfile up but refosouls down at the moment so will try in the future. I think that's a superb LP from start to finish - 'Indian Thing' is a great psychy jazz track, and the version of 'Let the sunshine in' is a cracker too. Did you get a UK copy, by the way? Better sleeve and better pressing!
December 31, 201014 yr On 31/12/2010 at 16:28, souljer6 said: Obviously you're a Southerner. We've got a lot more street cred up North. ...No you haven't - some of you are just more willing to pass a crap cover off as a 'soul version' or even 'the version' because it's a tad more obscure than the superior original!
December 31, 201014 yr On 31/12/2010 at 18:31, john s said: I think that's a superb LP from start to finish - 'Indian Thing' is a great psychy jazz track, and the version of 'Let the sunshine in' is a cracker too. Did you get a UK copy, by the way? Better sleeve and better pressing! Hi john Yes it a UK pressing. Love the sleeve notes that begin " J J Jackson , black , fat and totally together at 20 stone":rolleyes:
January 1, 201114 yr On 31/12/2010 at 16:28, souljer6 said: Obviously you're a Southerner. We've got a lot more street cred up North. AND SINCE WHEN HAS NORTHERN SOUL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH STREET CRED BRI PINCH
January 1, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 02:53, bri pinch said: AND SINCE WHEN HAS NORTHERN SOUL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH STREET CRED BRI PINCH ...AND CHICAGO'S ORIG VERSION IS THE BEST BY THAT STREET, UNLESS YOU ALL GOT CLOTH EARS BRI
January 1, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 03:03, bri pinch said: ...AND CHICAGO'S ORIG VERSION IS THE BEST BY THAT STREET, UNLESS YOU ALL GOT CLOTH EARS BRI Well said Bri, Chicago's original is the best by far. And if Chicago's "Saturday In The Park" had been released on a tiny Chicago indie label in the early 70's it would have become a northern biggie sooner or later ... that's for for sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwryFOYTKac
January 1, 201114 yr Author On 01/01/2011 at 02:53, bri pinch said: AND SINCE WHEN HAS NORTHERN SOUL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH STREET CRED BRI PINCH Clearly you're another one. I'm a Northerner and I am aware of the track's origins. Now surely, even though you dont get Northern, you must consider that as PROGRESS!!
January 1, 201114 yr SO....OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE FAR MORE NORTHERNLY AND INTO NORTHERN THAN I AM AND YOU'RE RIGHT WE DON'T..... GET...... MUCH NORTHERN AS FAR DOWN AS .....SOUTH YORKSHIRE. BRI.....CHICAGO RULES.....PINCH
January 1, 201114 yr Author On 01/01/2011 at 15:38, bri pinch said: SO....OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE FAR MORE NORTHERNLY AND INTO NORTHERN THAN I AM AND YOU'RE RIGHT WE DON'T..... GET...... MUCH NORTHERN AS FAR DOWN AS .....SOUTH YORKSHIRE. BRI.....CHICAGO RULES.....PINCH OOPS! Yes but.........................................................................Yorkshire goes a long way down.
January 1, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 14:35, souljer6 said: Clearly you're another one. I'm a Northerner and I am aware of the track's origins. Now surely, even though you dont get Northern, you must consider that as PROGRESS!! Copper 'n' Brass were a white group from Memphis. Chicago were (and still are) a white group from, er. Chicago Be interested to hear your doubtless dazzling insights into how one is soul and one is not. Could it be that, like so many before you (and doubtless after you), you're confusing obscurity with soulfulness?
January 1, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 05:25, sunnysoul said: Well said Bri, Chicago's original is the best by far. And if Chicago's "Saturday In The Park" had been released on a tiny Chicago indie label in the early 70's it would have become a northern biggie sooner or later ... that's for for sure. https://www.youtube.c...h?v=TwryFOYTKac WTF is this shite?
January 1, 201114 yr I think Richard is confusing tripe with utter tripe, now complicated by the injection of complete shite as Dave has pointed out.
January 1, 201114 yr Author On 01/01/2011 at 17:52, TONY ROUNCE said: Copper 'n' Brass were a white group from Memphis. Chicago were (and still are) a white group from, er. Chicago Be interested to hear your doubtless dazzling insights into how one is soul and one is not. Could it be that, like so many before you (and doubtless after you), you're confusing obscurity with soulfulness? Until Rod put that link up I had not heard the Copper n' Brass version for nighe 40 years......and even then it had only been in a club context. I have never suggested it is the superior version but I had assumed, wrongly I admit, that it was a "soul" record. I have every respect for you afficienados but my God, you're so easily wound up. PS. I have nothing against Southerners...............so long as they live North of Chesterfield.
January 2, 201114 yr On 31/12/2010 at 15:57, modernsoulsucks said: I think he's referring to me Jaco but his post was poorly expressed as is to be expected from a moron who had to re-sit his "A" levels. I don't recall Richard ever asking me previously but if he did I probably ignored him in case he went out and bought it. He has enough awful records in his collection as it is. The only person I know with a large collection, the value of which starts with a minus sign. ROD Happy New Year Rod !
January 2, 201114 yr i appreciate this is a northern soul site but it must be really difficult for those who only like music thats deemed to be northern soul dave
January 2, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 17:55, davetay said: WTF is this shite? Short and to the point Dave. Prefer the Birdy Song myself, got a couple of demos tucked away just waiting for it to get a few plays out and about.
January 2, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 05:25, sunnysoul said: Well said Bri, Chicago's original is the best by far. And if Chicago's "Saturday In The Park" had been released on a tiny Chicago indie label in the early 70's it would have become a northern biggie sooner or later ... that's for for sure. your havin' a laugh It's not remotely soul or even Northern, vocally, lyrically or musically
January 2, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 17:55, davetay said: WTF is this shite? Far too polite Dave !!!!!
January 2, 201114 yr On 02/01/2011 at 12:32, Arkwright said: Short and to the point Dave. Prefer the Birdy Song myself, got a couple of demos tucked away just waiting for it to get a few plays out and about. Do you mind !! this is a OVO site
January 2, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 05:25, sunnysoul said: Well said Bri, Chicago's original is the best by far. And if Chicago's "Saturday In The Park" had been released on a tiny Chicago indie label in the early 70's it would have become a northern biggie sooner or later ... that's for for sure. https://www.youtube.c...h?v=TwryFOYTKac Maybe this should be in the "Tips for 2011" thread, where we might also submit discs from The Cars, REO Speedwagon, Foreigner, Asia and the mighty Toto. Bellsound acetate of "Africa' anyone?
January 2, 201114 yr Got a uk cbs w/demo of africa if thats any good lol. Seriously tho chicago's 1st 3 lps with the jazz rock influence are not bad at all. Nowt to do with northern or soul but good nontheless
January 2, 201114 yr On 02/01/2011 at 15:03, dave pinch said: Got a uk cbs w/demo of africa if thats any good lol. Seriously tho chicago's 1st 3 lps with the jazz rock influence are not bad at all. Nowt to do with northern or soul but good nontheless No but I'll take the uncut picture disc... Yeah, was just teasing a bit to be honest. Chicago sometimes get included in the Horn Rock genre don't they? Still despise all the other bands I listed though
January 2, 201114 yr On 02/01/2011 at 12:32, Arkwright said: Prefer the Birdy Song myself, got a couple of demos tucked away Any chance of a scan? I've got a US demo somewhere in the attic, but I've never seen a UK one....
January 2, 201114 yr On 02/01/2011 at 12:58, Godzilla said: the mighty Toto. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSKkyriwV_4
January 2, 201114 yr Right! Whoever it was that took Sebastian's taste should give it back straight away...
January 2, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 17:52, TONY ROUNCE said: Copper 'n' Brass were a white group from Memphis. Chicago were (and still are) a white group from, er. Chicago Be interested to hear your doubtless dazzling insights into how one is soul and one is not. Could it be that, like so many before you (and doubtless after you), you're confusing obscurity with soulfulness? Personally I don't think either are soul and the Copper n Brass is even worse than Chicago......god knows how it ever got played considering the amount of decent music at the DJ's disposal back then.
January 3, 201114 yr On 02/01/2011 at 18:02, Godzilla said: Right! Whoever it was that took Sebastian's taste should give it back straight away... I was so surprised that you included The Cars in the bunch of groups you mentioned above that I just had to do it.
January 3, 201114 yr On 02/01/2011 at 17:44, Sebastian said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSKkyriwV_4 ...A truly fabulous record, wholeheartedly embraced by the soul and early 2-step scenes in London as a new release. So much better than Luther Vandross' version, too - Cheryl Lynn's vocal contribution is just sublime. 70s/crossover fans on here will own many records that feature members of Toto among the backing musicians, so don't be so quick to dismiss, please!
January 3, 201114 yr On 03/01/2011 at 09:21, TONY ROUNCE said: ...A truly fabulous record, wholeheartedly embraced by the soul and early 2-step scenes in London as a new release. So much better than Luther Vandross' version, too - Cheryl Lynn's vocal contribution is just sublime. 70s/crossover fans on here will own many records that feature members of Toto among the backing musicians, so don't be so quick to dismiss, please! Maybe it's to your taste Tone, but "Truly fabulous"? No wonder the Americans laugh at us for calling everything brilliant
January 3, 201114 yr On 03/01/2011 at 09:26, Godzilla said: Maybe it's to your taste Tone, but "Truly fabulous"? No wonder the Americans laugh at us for calling everything brilliant It''d be a sad world if we agreed on everything, Godz, so let's just say you're wrong and be done with it! :lol: ...seriously, it;s a personal favourite from back in the day, and it carries a lot of really good memories with it, so I'm hardly likely to view it as complete crap, am I? I've seen many worse records praised on here in the name of soul, too...
January 3, 201114 yr On 03/01/2011 at 09:32, TONY ROUNCE said: It''d be a sad world if we agreed on everything, Godz, so let's just say you're wrong and be done with it! ...seriously, it;s a personal favourite from back in the day, and it carries a lot of really good memories with it, so I'm hardly likely to view it as complete crap, am I? I've seen many worse records praised on here in the name of soul, too... I know when I'm beaten and I'm also magnanimous enough to allow everyone the odd taste malfunction. Anyway I can't say anything - I still have a copy of Harry Betts 'Fantastic Plastic Machine' in my guilty pleasures box Back on topic though, 'Does Anyone Know What Time It Is' also proves that despite all the good stuff, some proper duffers got played at the Mecca, too... ...(ducks for cover...)
January 3, 201114 yr On 01/01/2011 at 05:25, sunnysoul said: Well said Bri, Chicago's original is the best by far. And if Chicago's "Saturday In The Park" had been released on a tiny Chicago indie label in the early 70's it would have become a northern biggie sooner or later ... that's for for sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwryFOYTKac Are you tripping?
Yes, the soul version of the Chicago tune. Its still stuck in my head after all these years.
"As I was walking down the street one day..........................."
Many thanks in anticipo