Clampdown On Piracy – Three Separate Prosecutions

[De-to]

will this lot be getting there collars felt at last,??? :D

https://www.vinylcarvers.com/homepage.html

[Pete S]

will this lot be getting there collars felt at last,??? :D

https://www.vinylcarvers.com/homepage.html

Why should they, they know absolutely nothing about the music that they get sent as mp3's to make into vinyl records, if you tell them that the recording is by you or that you own the copyright, what are they meant to do, spend a month trying to track down the information?

[Mrtag]

Why should they, they know absolutely nothing about the music that they get sent as mp3's to make into vinyl records, if you tell them that the recording is by you or that you own the copyright, what are they meant to do, spend a month trying to track down the information?

Correct!! Would Be Difficult To Make Anything Stick !!

[Little-stevie]

Why should they, they know absolutely nothing about the music that they get sent as mp3's to make into vinyl records, if you tell them that the recording is by you or that you own the copyright, what are they meant to do, spend a month trying to track down the information?

Is there a disclaimer or something that covers the carver business and puts the legal issue upon the customer???

Of interest to folk as the carver business is second nature now....

[Guest eddiep]

will this lot be getting there collars felt at last,???

https://www.vinylcarv...m/homepage.html

Please bear in mind guys that these people also provide a service to many young musician's and band's to produce a work of their own into vinyl.

As a young aspiring guitarist many many years ago...it was exciting to see the bands music that I was in, that was wrote, practised and performed over many hours, weeks and months be recorded and turned into something you could physically hold and play. A huge amount of satisfaction came from that.

If home recording was as easy to do 20 odd years ago as it is today (e.g. digital recording) then someone like 'vinylcarvers' would of been a dream come true!

Instead we had to record in a studio and let the engineer produce our "DEMO TAPE" after a £300 charge !

ATB

Eddie

[Prophonics 2029]

Agree with you Eddie but a studio is a place where you have a room with no interaction from the out side world, no traffic, dogs barking or even other speakers to react with the sound being produced. So you do or did get more for your money .

[Guest eddiep]

Agree with you Eddie but a studio is a place where you have a room with no interaction from the out side world, no traffic, dogs barking or even other speakers to react with the sound being produced. So you do or did get more for your money .

Yeah I know we paid for that service but there wasn't any alternative back then and many can't find that kind of money needed to record in a studio. Especially nowdays.

Digital technology has opened a new way to record and made it much more accesible to many. In my mind that's a good thing and expand's boundaries musically.

For many amature musician's / music enthusiasts funds are limited as they are for everyone really and home recording is a very cost effective way for those involved and creative enough to try.

I in no way endorse or side with bootleg's being made or produced for financial gain fuelled by greed and essentially having total disrespect for those who wrote, performed or contributed to any form of artistic creation. If anything I detest it!

I'm just trying to say that that there is a bigger picture and for the group of people I've mentioned the service on offer of cutting a 45 from a recorded mp3 and the like is another way for artist's (amature or pro) to produce a finished item of their time, effort and skill (or not as the case may be !) and be proud of.

Just another side of the coin before any witch hunt becomes a revolution and all recording musical service's on offer are targeted as pure evil !! Lol.

ATB

Eddie

[Little-stevie]

Yeah I know we paid for that service but there wasn't any alternative back then and many can't find that kind of money needed to record in a studio. Especially nowdays.

Digital technology has opened a new way to record and made it much more accesible to many. In my mind that's a good thing and expand's boundaries musically.

For many amature musician's / music enthusiasts funds are limited as they are for everyone really and home recording is a very cost effective way for those involved and creative enough to try.

I in no way endorse or side with bootleg's being made or produced for financial gain fuelled by greed and essentially having total disrespect for those who wrote, performed or contributed to any form of artistic creation. If anything I detest it!

I'm just trying to say that that there is a bigger picture and for the group of people I've mentioned the service on offer of cutting a 45 from a recorded mp3 and the like is another way for artist's (amature or pro) to produce a finished item of their time, effort and skill (or not as the case may be !) and be proud of.

Just another side of the coin before any witch hunt becomes a revolution and all recording musical service's on offer are targeted as pure evil !! Lol.

ATB

Eddie

Great read for me Eddies, and well constructed.. I too was in a band in the 90s and we were held back with recordings as the studio was was out of our reach with finance... We had to save and scrapethe cash together...

Many views and opinion on this thread, was always gonna be that way... We will keep an eye on this and urge folk to think before they post, just taking a few extra seconds to engage the brain does have its advantages..

[Benji]

Is there a disclaimer or something that covers the carver business and puts the legal issue upon the customer???

Of interest to folk as the carver business is second nature now....

Isn't it that as long as it's a one-off and for your own home listening pleasure you're entitled to cut a carver of a track you don't own the rights for?

And you're not allowed to sell it on?

[Guest James Trouble]

The prowlng wolves working themselves up at the smell of blood is pretty silly and in my opinion short sighted.

If the authorities got hold of the scene it would probably be finshed as we know it.

Most of those that are held up on the alter of northern soul as DJs and authorities, with very few exceptions, would be put through the shredder by the tax man. What gives anyone the right to hoover up records and turn them around for a profit without paying tax?

All those DJs who sit in the record rooms, look at their ebay accounts, see what tunes they buy then look at their sales boxes. No tax is being paid there. You don't need to be a genius to work out who the biggest tax dodgers are.

How many people on here are buying records on ebay and declaring value as $5 gift?

How many promoters pay tax on club profits?

How many DJs declare earnings from DJ bookings?

And how many of you take illegal drugs, the profits of which could well fund terrorism or organised crime?

How many of you drug and drive after going home from allnighters? Putting people's lives at risk?

Keb got screwed by the tax man a few years ago and was forced to sell his records. The same would happen to many of the 'big' DJs and promoters on the scene.

If the devil gets into the room there won't be any getting rid of him. So it's probably best not to open the door and invite him in, no matter how much you hate the person who Mr Lucifer wants to speak to...

Still, the way I see it there is no place for bootleg bandits in this day and age although respect due to Kev for giving his side of the story. Things are rarely black and white in this world, and I doubt they are in this scenario.

Edited December 13, 2010 by James Trouble

[Modernsoulsucks]

Nice post James.

Insightful and inciteful.

ROD

[Theresa]

The prowlng wolves working themselves up at the smell of blood is pretty silly and in my opinion short sighted.

If the authorities got hold of the scene it would probably be finshed as we know it.

James I think you're slightly missing the point of the thread, which is commenting on the irony of a convicted copyright thief proselytising to others about the evils of copyright theft.

Folks on the scene commit some and all of the heinous crimes you mention, and I can only count myself as a hardened repeat offender but I would never dream of threatening to shop someone else for exactly the crime I've committed myself. That would indeed be hypocritical.

[Guest James Trouble]

James I think you're slightly missing the point of the thread, which is commenting on the irony of a convicted copyright thief proselytising to others about the evils of copyright theft.

Thanks for pointing that out, although I have already read the thread, twice.

Just be careful who you welcome into your house with open arms and a gleeful smile as their axe could end up being swung wide and far. That's all.

Edited December 13, 2010 by James Trouble

[Guest sharmo 1]

The prowlng wolves working themselves up at the smell of blood is pretty silly and in my opinion short sighted.

If the authorities got hold of the scene it would probably be finshed as we know it.

Most of those that are held up on the alter of northern soul as DJs and authorities, with very few exceptions, would be put through the shredder by the tax man. What gives anyone the right to hoover up records and turn them around for a profit without paying tax?

All those DJs who sit in the record rooms, look at their ebay accounts, see what tunes they buy then look at their sales boxes. No tax is being paid there. You don't need to be a genius to work out who the biggest tax dodgers are.

How many people on here are buying records on ebay and declaring value as $5 gift?

How many promoters pay tax on club profits?

How many DJs declare earnings from DJ bookings?

And how many of you take illegal drugs, the profits of which could well fund terrorism or organised crime?

How many of you drug and drive after going home from allnighters? Putting people's lives at risk?

Keb got screwed by the tax man a few years ago and was forced to sell his records. The same would happen to many of the 'big' DJs and promoters on the scene.

If the devil gets into the room there won't be any getting rid of him. So it's probably best not to open the door and invite him in, no matter how much you hate the person who Mr Lucifer wants to speak to...

Still, the way I see it there is no place for bootleg bandits in this day and age and respect due to Kev for giving his side of the story. Things are rarely black and white in this world, and I doubt they are in this scenario.

James we (my wife and myself) declare every penny that is collected through record sales and is put into a seperate account and is shown every year , when I was d'jing alot I used to tell the promoters to give my money to the Roy Castle cancer appeal anyone wanting to check this out can contact them direct, or ask the likes of Mick H ect..With respect Simon Hunt.

[Paul-s]

Well, its seems the other threads are not a 'Patch' on this one. Some think he hasn't got a leg to stand on and others seem to be on board. Aparrotely the debate goes on.

[Guest James Trouble]

James we (my wife and myself) declare every penny that is collected through record sales and is put into a seperate account and is shown every year , when I was d'jing alot I used to tell the promoters to give my money to the Roy Castle cancer appeal anyone wanting to check this out can contact them direct, or ask the likes of Mick H ect..With respect Simon Hunt.

Simon, in the end you may well be the last man standing. Once that axe starts swinging, like...

Interesting topic.

Edited December 13, 2010 by James Trouble

[Pete S]

Well, its seems the other threads are not a 'Patch' on this one. Some think he hasn't got a leg to stand on and others seem to be on board. Aparrotely the debate goes on.

I think the reason is that nobody's come out with the full facts of the case, I knew about this 18 months/2 years ago when Kev told me about it, and like most things, it's not quite how it appears on the surface.

[Theresa]

Thanks for pointing that out, although I have already read the thread, twice.

Just be careful who you welcome into your house with open arms and a gleeful smile as their axe could end up being swung wide and far. That's all.

And thank YOU kind sir, for your warning, but I'm always careful who I get into bed with

Fraternising with poachers turned gamekeepers is a fool's endeavour.

[pikeys dog]

Well, its seems the other threads are not a 'Patch' on this one. Some think he hasn't got a leg to stand on and others seem to be on board. Aparrotely the debate goes on.

Very Punny...

Aharrr!

[Dave Rimmer]

I think the reason is that nobody's come out with the full facts of the case, I knew about this 18 months/2 years ago when Kev told me about it, and like most things, it's not quite how it appears on the surface.

Following a statement like that, the obvious response is give us the benefit of your knowledge.

[Pete S]

Following a statement like that, the obvious response is give us the benefit of your knowledge.

I'm not sure I'm allowed to Dave, you know what the NS grapevine is like, I thought the facts would have leaked out by now

[Pete S]

James I think you're slightly missing the point of the thread, which is commenting on the irony of a convicted copyright thief proselytising to others about the evils of copyright theft.

You need to get your facts right before making statements like that Theresa, Kev hasn't been convicted of any copyright theft.

[Raremusicdirect]

Besides all the above interesting information I would just add that people should be a little careful, the outgoing government sold off the reserves, spent all the income the country had, then in desperation printed money.........now as the Coalition tries to balance out the mess, Tax Inspectors NEED to raise every penny they can. Thats their dictate !

Expect Ebay investigations, increased customs duty checks, examination of private traders v business traders and the avoidance of tax paid etc..................

Its not a cheery subject prior Xmas, but I think a touch of caution and not highlighting the issues (drawing attention) to them might be sensible.......[ I know I am fuelling the fire a little!] .................who knows who is on here under alias' or even anonymous user.........I remember learning after many years that a Tax Inspector socialised in my company but never declared it, case he created enemies lol...............Of course those who are whiter than white in every complete aspect have nothing to fear, but maybe thats not so many of us........ (Simon Hunt excepted)

If you want to know how intrusive such investigations are I could also write quiet a verse, but I closed mine out some years back and all I can advise is, don't lay yourself open for such an event it is indeed a nitemare...................

[Little-stevie]

Seriously guys what planet are you on??? I saw kev just the other night at the Stoke Allnighter! surely if he has been prosecuted as you all say he wouldnt be carrying on with the majorly successful events that he does! As for ROBIN BURNETT the clue is in his name ROBIN...!!! He clearly is the worst scum ive ever come across, bootlegs all over ebay, and all soul events. He is the 1 serving 9 months in prison and not for the first time i can tell you!

You haters must be jealous of kev's hard work and great followers, you should thank your lucky stars there are people like kev still putting on these fantastic events on for the soul loving public! These little guys are out to get him and there clearly not doing a good job of it, plastering lies and oversized bull crap on the subject.

Your making out like hes some kind of murderer, wow he had a few dodgys off the scum bag thats serving time, for the real crime... havent we all bought a copy in our time!

All i have to say on the matter is KTF KEV we are all behind you, see you at the next blackpool and soultrip!

babysoulgirl

And you miss the point with posts like this... Its the hypocrisy of posting last week on the bootlegging thread he said " giveaway cds is killing the scene and its not legal " while at the same time being in court on these charges.. KTF or whatever you want...

The timing of his comments was the oxygen to the fire..

I think we are very aware James as to what goes on, so why the need to put it in print on this public forum

Would be pot kettle for many to take the moral highground, its the posts on bootlegging and Kev warning some of us that we are killing the scene with these cds .. I can't think of any number of free cds killing what i think is the scene...

They could be hurting those that make a business of selling cds, is that the " scene'

Pete Smith/ Kev Roberts... If many are wide of the mark with regards to the facts then don't you think it wise to put them straight ???? it could stop certain posts on this topic running away with themself?????

[Kevinkent]

WELL SAID, NO JUDGE + NO JURY = NO CONVICTION i.e INNOCENT MAN!

You should perhaps read the whole thread. By Kev's own admission he was convicted on three trademark offences and was heavily fined.

What this has to do with his events promotion escapes me. If you are trying to make the point that anyone who appears to succeed in making a

business out of their love for Northern Soul is setting themselves up for a fall, and often for unfair criticism and the baying for blood by the masses,

then I will agree with you.

The thread starter hasn't had much to say on this apart from stirring old news up with a link, and then attempting to return the thread to discussion on an individual.

Personally, I thought it had become much more interesting once we'd all put our daggers away and moved on to more general discussion.

- Kev

Edited December 13, 2010 by KevinKent

[Pete S]

And you miss the point with posts like this... Its the hypocrisy of posting last week on the bootlegging thread he said " giveaway cds is killing the scene and its not legal " while at the same time being in court on these charges.. KTF or whatever you want...

The timing of his comments was the oxygen to the fire..

I think we are very aware James as to what goes on, so why the need to put it in print on this public forum

Would be pot kettle for many to take the moral highground, its the posts on bootlegging and Kev warning some of us that we are killing the scene with these cds .. I can't think of any number of free cds killing what i think is the scene...

They could be hurting those that make a business of selling cds, is that the " scene'

Pete Smith/ Kev Roberts... If many are wide of the mark with regards to the facts then don't you think it wise to put them straight ???? it could stop certain posts on this topic running away with themself?????

It's not up to me, he told me the entire story but may well want it to remain between me and him, why not just ask him?

[Mike]

It's not up to me, he told me the entire story but may well want it to remain between me and him, why not just ask him?

surely the whole story come out at the court case

there are legal aspects with matter such as this

and while am sure you post with good intentions, word of mouth stories that won't post up should have no part in any such discussion

especially as at the same moment this is going on the site is receiving complaints about certain posts

the member has posted what happened

that is what members are discussing , lets keep it to that

Edited December 13, 2010 by mike
re-worded

[Mrtag]

The prowlng wolves working themselves up at the smell of blood is pretty silly and in my opinion short sighted.

If the authorities got hold of the scene it would probably be finshed as we know it.

Most of those that are held up on the alter of northern soul as DJs and authorities, with very few exceptions, would be put through the shredder by the tax man. What gives anyone the right to hoover up records and turn them around for a profit without paying tax?

All those DJs who sit in the record rooms, look at their ebay accounts, see what tunes they buy then look at their sales boxes. No tax is being paid there. You don't need to be a genius to work out who the biggest tax dodgers are.

How many people on here are buying records on ebay and declaring value as $5 gift?

How many promoters pay tax on club profits?

How many DJs declare earnings from DJ bookings?

And how many of you take illegal drugs, the profits of which could well fund terrorism or organised crime?

How many of you drug and drive after going home from allnighters? Putting people's lives at risk?

Keb got screwed by the tax man a few years ago and was forced to sell his records. The same would happen to many of the 'big' DJs and promoters on the scene.

If the devil gets into the room there won't be any getting rid of him. So it's probably best not to open the door and invite him in, no matter how much you hate the person who Mr Lucifer wants to speak to...

Still, the way I see it there is no place for bootleg bandits in this day and age although respect due to Kev for giving his side of the story. Things are rarely black and white in this world, and I doubt they are in this scenario.

Glad You Finally Got Round To Bootlegs As This Thread Has Got Nothing At All To Do With Tax Evasion Unless You Misunderstood It !!

[Little-stevie]

Seriously guys what planet are you on??? I saw kev just the other night at the Stoke Allnighter! surely if he has been prosecuted as you all say he wouldnt be carrying on with the majorly successful events that he does! As for ROBIN BURNETT the clue is in his name ROBIN...!!! He clearly is the worst scum ive ever come across, bootlegs all over ebay, and all soul events. He is the 1 serving 9 months in prison and not for the first time i can tell you!

You haters must be jealous of kev's hard work and great followers, you should thank your lucky stars there are people like kev still putting on these fantastic events on for the soul loving public! These little guys are out to get him and there clearly not doing a good job of it, plastering lies and oversized bull crap on the subject.

Your making out like hes some kind of murderer, wow he had a few dodgys off the scum bag thats serving time, for the real crime... havent we all bought a copy in our time!

All i have to say on the matter is KTF KEV we are all behind you, see you at the next blackpool and soultrip!

babysoulgirl

Baby Girl... Have you introduced yourself???? as a new member.. If not then a few words of introduction makes it that little bit more polite

[Chalky]

Glad You Finally Got Round To Bootlegs As This Thread Has Got Nothing At All To Do With Tax Evasion Unless You Misunderstood It !!

I think JT is pointing out that there are many on this scene who are cheating the system in one form or another, promoting, buying and selling records and DJing. At the end of the day it is all taxable income and just how many declare it?

[Guest JIM BARRY]

WELL SAID, NO JUDGE + NO JURY = NO CONVICTION i.e INNOCENT MAN!

COURT + JUDGE+ GUILTY+ CONVICTION= CROOK.......

[Kevinkent]

Your talking tripe Mr Kent, wow three charges and its all because of BERNETT, swoped a few records and got caught cold! We have all done it, its no crime, its been on the scene for years! Kev doesnt press records and he is certainly not a con man. Which clearly this shows as there was NO JUDGE AND NO JURY.... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT KENT! He accepted a fine and thats it all this hype about so many records were taken away from him, and the quote '' They will make good ashtrays'' its totally wrong, some people like to make up crap to be frank. If the statements were true then fair doo's but its far from it.

Jealousy is the word to all these roumers, you will never pull the crowd Roberts is simple!

Kent dont even bother replying your clearly not adequate, your a joke!

So the mediators job is still up for grabs then?

Maybe you should calm down and read things over again as you seem to be attributing a lot of comments to me which simply aren't mine and your being a bit presumptive about my stance on this.

Welcome to Soul Source by the way.

Edited December 13, 2010 by KevinKent

[Little-stevie]

Your talking tripe Mr Kent, wow three charges and its all because of BERNETT, swoped a few records and got caught cold! We have all done it, its no crime, its been on the scene for years! Kev doesnt press records and he is certainly not a con man. Which clearly this shows as there was NO JUDGE AND NO JURY.... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT KENT! He accepted a fine and thats it all this hype about so many records were taken away from him, and the quote '' They will make good ashtrays'' its totally wrong, some people like to make up crap to be frank. If the statements were true then fair doo's but its far from it.

Jealousy is the word to all these roumers, you will never pull the crowd Roberts is simple!

Kent dont even bother replying your clearly not adequate, your a joke!

Swapped a few??? how many baby girl, you seem to be very very very close to the real facts... " you will never pull a crowd " are you talking to Kev Kent??? i think you could be the joke baby girl or whoever whoever you are " he accepted a fine" ?? did he have a choice??

The FACTS on the case will stop all this bull, stop talking in forked tougue and give us the facts.. Then we can move forward...

[Chalky]

On 12/13/2010 at 21:38, babysoulgirl said:

Your talking tripe Mr Kent, wow three charges and its all because of BERNETT, swoped a few records and got caught cold! We have all done it, its no crime, its been on the scene for years! Kev doesnt press records and he is certainly not a con man. Which clearly this shows as there was NO JUDGE AND NO JURY.... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT KENT! He accepted a fine and thats it all this hype about so many records were taken away from him, and the quote '' They will make good ashtrays'' its totally wrong, some people like to make up crap to be frank. If the statements were true then fair doo's but its far from it.

Jealousy is the word to all these roumers, you will never pull the crowd Roberts is simple!

Kent dont even bother replying your clearly not adequate, your a joke!

Can you please post an introduction and let us all know who you are etc

 

[Guest JIM BARRY]

Swapped a few??? how many baby girl, you seem to be very very very close to the real facts... " you will never pull a crowd " are you talking to Kev Kent??? i think you could be the joke baby girl or whoever whoever you are " he accepted a fine" ?? did he have a choice??

The FACTS on the case will stop all this bull, stop talking in forked tougue and give us the facts.. Then we can move forward...

a cuckoo in the nest me thinks......strange to be a brand new member and jump straight to the defence of a GUILTY person.

[Mike]

quick one

going down the road of past issues, new posters jumping in, abuse ,snipes and all the rest

ask all members think before posting

tone down the heated posts, drop the abuse and if want to put across a point try doing it in a manner and tone that will not cause things to kick off

on actual matter

kev

some confusion on this

this site is also reporting your court case - dated today?

is this a fair account of what happened ?

https://www.mi2n.com/...press_nb=136828

[Little-stevie]

"Jealousy is the word to all these roumers, you will never pull the crowd Roberts is simple!

Its Rumours ... whats that about pulling a crowd?? and why is Roberts simple???

A break for supper and back later for Baby girl to tell us some facts..

[macca]

So the end of the Northern Soul Scene as we know it (in the UK) won't be attributable to lack of 'new blood' but to the long hand of the inland revenue man.

Who would have thought? Meanwhile, on the continent, all is rosy. ;-)

[Phil Shields]

Seriously guys what planet are you on??? I saw kev just the other night at the Stoke Allnighter! surely if he has been prosecuted as you all say he wouldnt be carrying on with the majorly successful events that he does! As for ROBIN BURNETT the clue is in his name ROBIN...!!! He clearly is the worst scum ive ever come across, bootlegs all over ebay, and all soul events. He is the 1 serving 9 months in prison and not for the first time i can tell you!

You haters must be jealous of kev's hard work and great followers, you should thank your lucky stars there are people like kev still putting on these fantastic events on for the soul loving public! These little guys are out to get him and there clearly not doing a good job of it, plastering lies and oversized bull crap on the subject.

Your making out like hes some kind of murderer, wow he had a few dodgys off the scum bag thats serving time, for the real crime... havent we all bought a copy in our time!

All i have to say on the matter is KTF KEV we are all behind you, see you at the next blackpool and soultrip!

babysoulgirl

So he can create smoke without fire..........a miracle

[Raremusicdirect]

As a side note, maybe this forum is too open ?

Details from BabySoulgirl

Member Title:Second IssueAge:Age UnknownBirthday:Birthday UnknownGender: Not Telling Top ever soul sound: the snake Event:: blackpool tower Perhaps some minumum details per site member ? or just delete em ? too easy to come on SoulSource cause trouble and disappear remaining anon ?

Feel free to move this thread .........................

[Guest Dave Turner]

So the mediators job is still up for grabs then?

Maybe you should calm down and read things over again as you seem to be attributing a lot of comments to me which simply aren't mine and your being a bit presumptive about my stance on this.

Welcome to Soul Source by the way.

[Mike]

As a side note, maybe this forum is too open ?

Details from BabySoulgirl

Member Title:Second IssueAge:Age UnknownBirthday:Birthday UnknownGender: Not Telling Top ever soul sound: the snake Event:: blackpool tower Perhaps some minumum details per site member ? or just delete em ? too easy to come on SoulSource cause trouble and disappear remaining anon ?

Feel free to move this thread .........................

there is more to the member joining process than shows on the public profile

there is a laid down routine which does ensure to a certain degree a certain amount of validation

[Raremusicdirect]

there is more to the member joining process than shows on the public profile

there is a laid down routine which does ensure to a certain degree a certain amount of validation

Thanks for clarifying Mike.........does this mean you know who this member is but are respecting their privacy ?

[Kevinkent]

Thanks for clarifying Mike.........does this mean you know who this member is but are respecting their privacy ?

Is it my wife?

Edited December 14, 2010 by KevinKent

[Goldsoul]

In response to Mike's request for a clearer picture..... here we go(in hope!)

The charges related to 3 vinyl singles only in breach of the Trademark act.

The singles were traded with Robin Burnett, who as we all now know received 9 months for a string of offences along with his partner Alan Godfrey.

Scener's will know them better as Amnesia Records, who were active in early 2007.

Mine were 'infringement of trademark' which basically means I knew or ought to have known that the 3 titles were illegal.

The case was not about bootlegs.

As for everyone on here either supporting us or revelling in tittle tattle, let me give you a heads up.

I'm £40,000 worse off in fines and legal costs.

Trading Standards told me they are chasing others and read Soul Source as an 'intelligence tool' so please take them seriously.

The government body are also linked up to HMRC and have Northern Soul under review.

As the article Mike eluded to, the first report was untrue and corrected by the BPI.

Bottom line is: 3 trademark offences equalled 40k in fine and legal.

All clear and understood?

I

Edited December 14, 2010 by The Golden 101

[Mrtag]

I think JT is pointing out that there are many on this scene who are cheating the system in one form or another, promoting, buying and selling records and DJing. At the end of the day it is all taxable income and just how many declare it?

How Many NS DJ's Actually Make any Money From DJing Most DJ's Get £50 For 1 Spot Usually The Majority Of That Goes On Fuel Without Taking Into Consideration Any Cost For Wear And Tear To Their Vehicle Plus Servicing Etc, Etc, Most Accountants Laugh When You Show Them Books For Djing And Usually Offset Record Costs Against Other Business Interests. The Bottom Line Is That The Quote By JT Is Totally Irrelevant To Piracy and Bootlegging Imho

[Mike]

In response to Mike's request for a clearer picture..... here we go(in hope!)

The charges related to 3 vinyl singles only in breach of thr Trademark act.

The singles were traded with Robin Burnett, who as we all now know received 9 months for a string of offences along with his partner Alan Godfrey.

Scener's will know them better as Amnesia Records, who were active in early 2007.

Mine were 'infringement of trademark' which basically means I knew or ought to have known that the 3 titles were illegal.

The case was not about bootlegs.

As for everyone on here either supporting us or revelling in tittle tattle, let me give you a heads up.

I'm £40,000 worse off in fines and legal costs.

Trading Standards told me they are chasing others and read Soul Source as an 'intelligence tool' so please take them seriously.

The government body are also linked up to HMRC and have Northern Soul under review.

As the article Mike eluded to, the first report was untrue and corrected by the BPI.

Bottom line is: 3 trademark offences equalled 40k in fine and legal.

All clear and understood?

I

ok

thanks for that

there you have it

one member on here has recently been to court for various offences, it has been reported on other websites and when asked for has given his view

that's as good as it gets, have no wish for this place to be either used for either max clifford type operations or for angry mob with torches type threads

news was posted, people have posted views, its been talked about

Am closing it now for one reason and one reason alone, simply this whole episode goes way beyond what this site is or should be about

It is a serious matter as the mentions of jail sentences and such should show

the news and facts are out there, make out of them what you want

thread closed

as always feel free to start up new threads for any of the subjects that have been mentioned, however if do such, ask to bear in mind the reasons why this thread was closed

any comments on closure or other mod issues please do so in the feedback forum

mike