bri pinch Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE, BUT THE BOOTLEG IS ON SOUND PATTERNS, RIGHT. SOMEBODY PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY. BRI PINCH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Can't Find Anything About A Boot On Sound Patterns!! Original done on sound patterns with " I have faith in you " On The Flip!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Can't Find Anything About A Boot On Sound Patterns!! Original done on sound patterns with " I have faith in you " On The Flip!! thought it was 'If You Walked Out Of My Life' on the flip Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Can't Find Anything About A Boot On Sound Patterns!! Original done on sound patterns with " I have faith in you " On The Flip!! I have it on Sound Impression with If You Walk Out Of My Life on the other side. I was always a bit dubious about Open The Door / I Have Faith on Sound Patterns. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I have it on Sound Impression with If You Walk Out Of My Life on the other side. I was always a bit dubious about Open The Door / I Have Faith on Sound Patterns. yep thats the one i have Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 thought it was 'If You Walked Out Of My Life' on the flip Thats the Flip on Sound Impressions 6809!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Thats the Flip on Sound Impressions 6809!! yeah realised when pete posted Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I have it on Sound Impression with If You Walk Out Of My Life on the other side. I was always a bit dubious about Open The Door / I Have Faith on Sound Patterns. Mr Manship and some big US Dealers have sold both copies!! Big Difference in Values sound Impressions books @ £100 Flanny sold one on here a while back for around £35 And sound Patterns books at £600 one sold on ebay a while back @ over $750 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE, BUT THE BOOTLEG IS ON SOUND PATTERNS, RIGHT. SOMEBODY PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY. BRI PINCH Bargain earlier this year !! https://www.popsike.com/php/detaildatar.php?itemnr=170489776569 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Another one!! Autographed https://www.popsike.com/php/detaildatar.php?itemnr=170284887004 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 yeah realised when pete posted Sorry Grant Only noticed Pete's post after I had Done My Post!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 ONLY REASON I ASKED IS THE ONE I GOT, THE SOUND QUALITY PALES COMPARED TO THE SOUND OF THE SOUND IMPRESSION ONES, AGAIN BRI PINCH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Bargain earlier this year !! https://www.popsike.com/php/detaildatar.php?itemnr=170489776569 Those are represses I think Doni Burdick did them himself for his appearance at Prestatyn Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Those are represses I think Doni Burdick did them himself for his appearance at Prestatyn which is pretty much what i think pete, archer stamped, but as they say.....not original bri Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Bargain earlier this year !! https://www.popsike.c...nr=170489776569 This guy reckons it is 43 yrs old!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Another one!! Autographed https://www.popsike.c...nr=170284887004 This sounds dubious !! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hitsville Chalky Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Those are represses I think Doni Burdick did them himself for his appearance at Prestatyn Thats correct pete ..... Doni sent me one a few months ago . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Thats correct pete ..... Doni sent me one a few months ago . Hi Chalky, How can you tell them apart from the original !! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 are you people really trying to say that the sound patterns one has only been done in recent years. i first saw one in 1990 so they are not `recent presses` don burdick may well have privately pressed them after the sound impressions one but i just think he had copies long before he was found. dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 are you people really trying to say that the sound patterns one has only been done in recent years. i first saw one in 1990 so they are not `recent presses` don burdick may well have privately pressed them after the sound impressions one but i just think he had copies long before he was found. dave Hi Dave, Are You Sure it Was A Boot As The Sound Patterns One Is A Legit 45 ? Not Saying the ones on Popsike Are Real But The Guy Says the First One Is 43 Yrs Old!! Best Bet Pm Mr JM and see what john says!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Guys - we did this topic only back in February Here is the link: Go to the previous thread as it includes plenty of references to how long the Sound Patterns 45 has been around The only query in my mind now is has the Sound Patterns been re-pressesed recently as an 'exact' copy of the first white with green print Sound Patterns copy? Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hi Dave, Are You Sure it Was A Boot As The Sound Patterns One Is A Legit 45 ? Not Saying the ones on Popsike Are Real But The Guy Says the First One Is 43 Yrs Old!! Best Bet Pm Mr JM and see what john says!! i dont think they are boots or represses at all. i agree with you and richard. i just think that don had/ has some copies from way back when. my brother started this thread and he was just voicing his concern as we`ve had the sound impression one as well and the fidelity is a bit better on that one. don might have the plates for this 45 but it would be nigh on impossible to get the label right dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete Jay Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 i dont think they are boots or represses at all. i agree with you and richard. i just think that don had/ has some copies from way back when. my brother started this thread and he was just voicing his concern as we`ve had the sound impression one as well and the fidelity is a bit better on that one. don might have the plates for this 45 but it would be nigh on impossible to get the label right dave HI DAVE, THE ONE THAT RICHARD REFERS TO IN FEBRUARY THREAD WAS DONATED TO US BY DONI BURDICK FOR OUR ANNUAL CHARITY EVENT LAST YEAR. THAT COPY WAS AUTHENTICATED BY DONI AS THE 'FIRST TEST PRESS' & I GAVE IT TO JM TO AUCTION (WHO ALSO THOUGHT IT TO BE 'KOSHER') THE RECORD SOLD FOR £450 (LESS JM's COMMISSION) PETE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 HI DAVE, THE ONE THAT RICHARD REFERS TO IN FEBRUARY THREAD WAS DONATED TO US BY DONI BURDICK FOR OUR ANNUAL CHARITY EVENT LAST YEAR. THAT COPY WAS AUTHENTICATED BY DONI AS THE 'FIRST TEST PRESS' & I GAVE IT TO JM TO AUCTION (WHO ALSO THOUGHT IT TO BE 'KOSHER') THE RECORD SOLD FOR £450 (LESS JM's COMMISSION) PETE So he's giving them away (two people in this thread so far got freebies) but it's being sold for £450. Doesn't make sense. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete Jay Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 So he's giving them away (two people in this thread so far got freebies) but it's being sold for £450. Doesn't make sense. PETE, I DON'T CONSIDER SOMEBODY 'DONATING' SOMETHING FOR A CHARITABLE CAUSE AS GIVING A 'FREEBIE' AT THE END OF THE DAY THE LITTLE BOY WE RAISE FUNDS FOR BENEIFITTED FROM DONI'S KIND DONATION. PETE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 PETE, I DON'T CONSIDER SOMEBODY 'DONATING' SOMETHING FOR A CHARITABLE CAUSE AS GIVING A 'FREEBIE' What do you consider it as then? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 i dont think they are boots or represses at all. i agree with you and richard. i just think that don had/ has some copies from way back when. my brother started this thread and he was just voicing his concern as we`ve had the sound impression one as well and the fidelity is a bit better on that one. don might have the plates for this 45 but it would be nigh on impossible to get the label right dave Very True Dave The Label Is Usually The Give Away!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 i dont think they are boots or represses at all. i agree with you and richard. i just think that don had/ has some copies from way back when. my brother started this thread and he was just voicing his concern as we`ve had the sound impression one as well and the fidelity is a bit better on that one. don might have the plates for this 45 but it would be nigh on impossible to get the label right dave I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole myself. I wouldn't be comfortable selling it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 (edited) I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole myself. I wouldn't be comfortable selling it. Hi Pete This record has been around a long time. See my post from the previous thread. Apart from being around in the 70s this 45 has also featured on Sound Patterns label listings from way back. For instance it was in Rod Dearlove's Music Express #4 and although the label wasn't in Rod's A Collector's Guide To Detroit, it was on Chris Moore's follow-up catalogue of Detroit labels in Summer 1986. Manship's Guide rates it at £400. From Popsike I found one which said: SOUND PATTERNS DXM 6807/6809. We are selling this record for the recording artist Donald I. Burdick aka Doni Burdick. It was recorded in Detroit in 1971 utilizing some of the Motown musicians and pressed by Archer (Stamped in dead wax). It is one of the classic Northern Soul records. Don Burdick has offered to autograph the record if desired by the purchaser. It is in mint condition and from his personal collection. Full title "I Have Faith In You"/"Open The Door To Your Heart". Cheers Richard It's perfectly possible that Don Burdick pressed it in '71 as stated above, but that it was never distributed or very effectively distributed - and he just kept hold of some or all of them. This could easily explain it's long-standing 'rarity'. The existence of the 45 going back years (at least to the early to mid 1980s as shown above) is adequately documented. If you think a more recent counterfeit has been pressed, or if you think the old copies are counterfeits in some way, can you say a bit more about why you think this is please? Cheers Richard Edited November 20, 2010 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hi Pete This record has been around a long time. See my post from the previous thread. It's perfectly possible that Don Burdick pressed it in '71 as stated above, but that it was never distributed or very effectively distributed - and he just kept hold of some or all of them. This could easily explain it's long-standing 'rarity'. The existence of the 45 going back years (at least to the early to mid 1980s as shown above) is adequately documented. If you think a more recent counterfeit has been pressed, or if you think the old copies are counterfeits in some way, can you say a bit more about why you think this is please? Cheers Richard Why should I have to explain? They look dodgy. He's been giving them away. There you go. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Why should I have to explain? They look dodgy. He's been giving them away. There you go. i just thought that you might have seen this 45 years ago pete dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 i just thought that you might have seen this 45 years ago pete dave Well seeing as I'd have only been 5 years old and the record hadn't yet been made, it's not f*cking likely is it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Can't Understand This they Look Exactly The Same As The Originals ! ! ! As They Probabley Are Orignals ! ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 (edited) If you don't want to explain Pete then of course you don't have to Then again, you don't have to post up that you think it's dodgy either As this is a discussion site and I think you are the only person saying the record is dodgy I reckon it's perfectly fair to ask you to say why you think that's so If you don't know why you think it's dodgy (e.g. other evidence about when/where pressed, vinyl/paper/deadwax details) then that's another thing completely I guess As this has now become a pointless thread I'm not coming back to it - bye Cheers Richard Edited November 20, 2010 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 If you don't want to explain Pete then of course you don't have to Then again, you don't have to post up that you think it's dodgy either As this is a discussion site and I think you are the only person saying the record is dodgy I reckon it's perfectly fair to ask you to say why you think that's so If you don't know why you think it's dodgy (e.g. other evidence about when/where pressed, vinyl/paper/deadwax details) then that's another thing completely I guess As this has now become a pointless thread I'm not coming back to it - bye Cheers Richard Oh right, I'm the only person casting doubts on it am I? Have you read the whole thread? And I answered your question anyway. Fucks sake. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 gonna close this before it gets silly. bri Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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