All fans of Ray Agee will be wondering about this,me included

A suprising record to turn up in 2010 considering that after almost 40 years of collectors and dealers non stop searching ?

But is it all THAT rare,surely most serious collectors already have a copy since donkeys years back????////???

Ian D ?

Rob.

  On 16/11/2010 at 08:00, robscellar said:

All fans of Ray Agee will be wondering about this,me included

A suprising record to turn up in 2010 considering that after almost 40 years of collectors and dealers non stop searching ?

But is it all THAT rare,surely most serious collectors already have a copy since donkeys years back????////???

Ian D ?

Rob.

How Many Copies Are About? ? Don't hear it played out Much ! !

Edited November 16, 201014 yr by mrtag

one of the best NS records ever IMO Des Parker reckons its one the best r&b ones as well, had mine over 20 years and still get the goose bumps every time i hear it, a lot better than that flourecent smoggy thing

Absolutely spot on Ted, in my, and I stress MY opinion, the best R& B record ever - it's got the F***ing lot. Bought mine for £750 a fair few years ago, and since then have been offered some excellent cash offers for it, but can't bear to part with it, never ever tire of it, what a voice!!!

Des

john philips has one although his copy now resides in austrailia he did bring it back over for a visit and played it at our ` chillout` 2nd anniversary in aug. must be a 10 copy record at most.. dont think theres anymore than that. although i love ray agee .... flourescent smogg edges it for me as its more my barrow

dave

Sold one on here on behalf of someone from the States a few years ago - £1800 I think it was

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:22, Pete S said:

Sold one on here on behalf of someone from the States a few years ago - £1800 I think it was

Racking my brains to remember who first played it and when... remember early 80s plays but who ? Keb ?

Edited November 16, 201014 yr by Lobster Madras

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:33, Lobster Madras said:

Racking my brains to remember who first played it and when... remember early 80s plays but who ? Keb ?

It's on that Wigan Anniversary 1980 tape I posted up, played by Gary Rushbrooke

oh and this copy that sold for $7100 was vg ++ which as we know is virtually mint coming from the usa or should be

dave

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:20, dave pinch said:

john philips has one although his copy now resides in austrailia he did bring it back over for a visit and played it at our ` chillout` 2nd anniversary in aug. must be a 10 copy record at most.. dont think theres anymore than that. although i love ray agee .... flourescent smogg edges it for me as its more my barrow

dave

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I know the Aussie Donny bought it off me when our washer blew up and i had to sell it so i could get another one £600 seems pretty cheap now

i should have washed the friggin clothes in the brook and kept Ray A

X ian c

Weren't it played at the Casino by R.S. as "James Conwell - Love Is A Losing Game"

Pretty rare, but I must be lucky as I've had 4 or 5 copies go through me hands over the years..Maybe should of kept them..

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:36, Pete S said:

It's on that Wigan Anniversary 1980 tape I posted up, played by Gary Rushbrooke

Gary again... I've listened to those as well, Pete !

So many future monsters in his sets from back then, quite mind-blowing ...He doesn't get the credit due probably as they were dark days for the scene when Mr Rushbrooke was ruling the decks..

  On 16/11/2010 at 08:53, Ted Massey said:

one of the best NS records ever IMO Des Parker reckons its one the best r&b ones as well, had mine over 20 years and still get the goose bumps every time i hear it, a lot better than that flourecent smoggy thing

Couldn't Agree More Ted ! !

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:47, IANCSLOFT said:

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I know the Aussie Donny bought it off me when our washer blew up and i had to sell it so i could get another one £600 seems pretty cheap now

i should have washed the friggin clothes in the brook and kept Ray A

X ian c

Hi Ian, If Your Washer Goes T*ts Up Again Leave Your Playbox out and I'll Pop Round With A New One ! !

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:33, Lobster Madras said:

Racking my brains to remember who first played it and when... remember early 80s plays but who ? Keb ?

I do remember it got plays at the Leicester niters,can't remember the name of the dj due to "elderly citizen's" memory

think he was a scooter freak from Wolverhampton ? ??

what he played (to an almost empty dancefloor) and what was in his boxes was totally mindblowing,I think he was a well known collector ?

Rob

Its the B@@locks

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:55, SOUL.INC said:

Weren't it played at the Casino by R.S. as "James Conwell - Love Is A Losing Game"

correct, that was the cover up name, certainly remember it being played at the casino by G.R.

Edited November 16, 201014 yr by grant

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:57, hootenannie said:

Pretty rare, but I must be lucky as I've had 4 or 5 copies go through me hands over the years..Maybe should of kept them..

Let me know please the next time you have a copy...always been on my wants list. But somehow had a feeling this vg+ copy would go for absurd money

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:55, SOUL.INC said:

Weren't it played at the Casino by R.S. as "James Conwell - Love Is A Losing Game"

I sold this to Gary Rushbrooke probably around 1979/80 covered up as James Conwell - Asking price back then was around £150.00. At the same time he bought The Vondells - Covered up as the Stagemasters and The Admirations on Peaches covered as Timothy Wilson and the pigtails all for £150 each.

Regards

Dave

  On 16/11/2010 at 11:17, Dave Raistrick said:

I sold this to Gary Rushbrooke probably around 1979/80 covered up as James Conwell - Asking price back then was around £150.00. At the same time he bought The Vondells - Covered up as the Stagemasters and The Admirations on Peaches covered as Timothy Wilson and the pigtails all for £150 each.

Regards

Dave

Serious money back then !!!

Did Searling have/play this as well, Dave, or was it a Rushbrooke exclusive?

Des

  On 16/11/2010 at 11:30, SOUL.INC said:

Did Searling have/play this as well, Dave, or was it a Rushbrooke exclusive?

Des

Rushbrooke exclusive at the time Des. I'd been playing it since late '78 as a find from one of my early trips to California, although Blue Max told me he had spun it at the Cats.

  On 16/11/2010 at 11:17, Dave Raistrick said:

I sold this to Gary Rushbrooke probably around 1979/80 covered up as James Conwell - Asking price back then was around £150.00. At the same time he bought The Vondells - Covered up as the Stagemasters and The Admirations on Peaches covered as Timothy Wilson and the pigtails all for £150 each.

Regards

Dave

Hi Dave

that was a good priceyou got for the Vondells,used to see it on all dealers lists between £15 and £20 and everyone was raving on about it,personally it never did anything for me and I did'nt bother buying one

what price do you rate it now ?

Rob.

A mate of mine has one, won it of Manship a few years ago so is it in the 20s or 50ts of how many are out there.

  On 16/11/2010 at 10:11, Lobster Madras said:

Gary again... I've listened to those as well, Pete !

So many future monsters in his sets from back then, quite mind-blowing ...He doesn't get the credit due probably as they were dark days for the scene when Mr Rushbrooke was ruling the decks..

i heard so much stuff that g r played that i was f*** if i could remember a single one of em in the morning going home.just had to go back again the following week. Dancing like a loon to something , and as you were going to ask someone the title or artist,the next one would wipe it clean from your memory. the beauty and the curse of a great dj. or the lack of a bloody tape recorder! heh heh

  On 16/11/2010 at 11:50, robscellar said:

Hi Dave

that was a good priceyou got for the Vondells,used to see it on all dealers lists between £15 and £20 and everyone was raving on about it,personally it never did anything for me and I did'nt bother buying one

what price do you rate it now ?

Rob.

Rob,

As an unknown The Vondells covered up at the time seemed the right price and l'm pretty sure once uncovered a few copies turned up hence the lower price then !!!

NOW £1,000 maybe ????

First time l played it out was at a 'niter at the Birmingham Locarno around '78 - organised by N. Rushton.

Dave.

  On 16/11/2010 at 11:16, Marc Forrest said:

Let me know please the next time you have a copy...always been on my wants list. But somehow had a feeling this vg+ copy would go for absurd money

in the late eighties, early nineties I kept getting offered good money to part with it and thought "If I sell it I won't come accross another" but did..Although eventually my luck ran out One of them makes a good story for Mr Dyson's book..

bought mine around 88/89 think it was Jim Wensiora £90

Never heard the tune,any snippets around? I'm curious.

  On 16/11/2010 at 17:42, Miss Schmidt said:

Never heard the tune,any snippets around? I'm curious.

try youtube

  On 16/11/2010 at 17:42, Miss Schmidt said:

Never heard the tune,any snippets around? I'm curious.

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/more/soul-library/30718-ray-agee-im-losing-again/

Nick

Cheers! Hmmm,not too impressed to be fair,he has done better tunes.In my humble opinion,I shall add

are we really talking about losing again? or about hard loving woman? (un) fortunately I aint old enough to have heard it out and about.

Edited November 16, 201014 yr by Miss Schmidt

  On 16/11/2010 at 11:39, Dave Raistrick said:

Rushbrooke exclusive at the time Des. I'd been playing it since late '78 as a find from one of my early trips to California, although Blue Max told me he had spun it at the Cats.

Hey Dave, we found this for $1 at the shop on Pico i think ( janes ? ) with thoes Gold spot Kenny Smiths we thought were boots , never did like Ray Agee tho, Arthur.

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:36, Pete S said:

It's on that Wigan Anniversary 1980 tape I posted up, played by Gary Rushbrooke

Hi Pete

where did you post the tape ?

Anyone have Gary Rushbrooke's play listings......? Thanks.

Rob.

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:33, Lobster Madras said:

Racking my brains to remember who first played it and when... remember early 80s plays but who ? Keb ?

I do remember it got plays at the Leicester niters,can't remember the name of the dj due to "elderly citizen's" memory

think he was a scooter freak from Wolverhampton ? ??

what he played (to an almost empty dancefloor) and what was in his boxes was totally mindblowing,I think he was a well known collector ?

Rob

Hmmm....... cant ever remember there ever being an empty dance floor at the Oddfellows, and the DJ (This term is only used to describe in this instance a man that played the said tune) was Tony Clayton, he had every record of any note in those boxes yet he did not even know it. The collection was not collected by himself it was the late Nev Wearys entire collection but have no idea how TC managed to obtain it.

  On 16/11/2010 at 09:45, dave pinch said:

oh and this copy that sold for $7100 was vg ++ which as we know is virtually mint coming from the usa or should be

dave

not if you look at that seller's feedback

who was the seller?

  On 16/11/2010 at 20:04, boba said:

not if you look at that seller's feedback

I've never bought from the seller but have looked at several of his records for sale and from the pics his 'vg+' records are trashed. I remember an ABC promo Natural Four "I thought...." was graded 'vg+' if not better and the label was heavily scuffed and the record looked it had no 'gloss'. No way I would touch anything without hearing it. Besides, I get the impression he would be a pain to deal with if you had a complaint.

  On 16/11/2010 at 20:04, boba said:

not if you look at that seller's feedback

record arrived quite moldy.

  On 16/11/2010 at 12:10, whatsthiscalled said:

i heard so much stuff that g r played that i was f*** if i could remember a single one of em in the morning going home.just had to go back again the following week. Dancing like a loon to something , and as you were going to ask someone the title or artist,the next one would wipe it clean from your memory. the beauty and the curse of a great dj. or the lack of a bloody tape recorder! heh heh

He was the first to play the 4 voices, bing bong,that track on mandingo and errrrr some others! Gazza was a good lad even did me a tape

DJ

thats a nother back in the cellar for the right people to play at me next shin-ding " how much",..glad i was a clepto-maniac..ha

Edited November 17, 201014 yr by burt weed on

I think Ray Agee was listed at some time in the 70,s on Soul Bowl for £25, thats what my last few memory brain cells are telling me !!!