Soulsmith Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Does anybody know if there is a minimum nationwide statutory limit for the amount of bouncers/door staff required for licensed premises..... A a Dj ie soul night B live music Appreciate there are loads of local stipulations but I'm interested in the nationwide regs Cheers in advance. Col.
Naughty Boy Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) Does anybody know if there is a minimum nationwide statutory limit for the amount of bouncers/door staff required for licensed premises..... A a Dj ie soul night B live music Appreciate there are loads of local stipulations but I'm interested in the nationwide regs Cheers in advance. Col. it can vary , it depends on the ownership of venue the venues layout and its total capacity, its management and the local authority , but most not all stipulate 1 per 100 but a min of 2 in any event Edited October 26, 2010 by Naughty Boy
Ged Parker Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 it can vary , it depends on the ownership of venue the venues layout and its total capacity, its management and the local authority , but most not all stipulate 1 per 100 but a min of 2 in any event Perfect answer. I'd just add that there will be something in the conditions attached to premises licence that give specifics and if there isn't then you don't even need registered door staff. That is assuming that the event is of a type that is noted as "licensed" on the premises licence.
Guest ruffsounds Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 It depends on the venue and what licence stipulations they have, and also if a venue is hired for a day or night then it is dependent on if it is a private event i.e. no monies being payed to get in, or wether you charge people to get in, some venues now also stipulate that you must have the appropriate insurance PUBLIC LIABILITY and if using own equipment that it has up to date PAT test certificates. General rule of thumb is min 2 doorstaff per event then extra dependent on how many acually attend usually upto 120 2 bouncers and so on. cheers Ralph
Naughty Boy Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 insurance PUBLIC LIABILITY and if using own equipment that it has up to date PAT test certificates. cheers Ralph Ralph anyone running a venue without any of the above are just plain stupid in this day and age
paup-ine Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Check with your local council. One bouncer per 50 persons is usually the norm for a licensed activity due to fire regulations or if there is any trouble. P:)
Soulsmith Posted October 30, 2010 Author Posted October 30, 2010 Thanks for replies. Just seems strange that some venues have a license whereby the local authority specify the amount of bouncers required & some venues have a license that don't require bouncers - but them I still have to check with the local authority who will then tell me how many bouncers I do need. Happy days.
Soulsmith Posted October 30, 2010 Author Posted October 30, 2010 Just looking at this from another direction... If you're organising a salsa night or 75th birthday party and gonna play recorded or live music in your local pub and expect say 100 people you're going to need bouncers?
Chalky Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 The number of door staff required will be set by the council and can be found on a venues public entertainment license, simply ask the venue management. It is not always the capacity that stipulates how many door staff/security are required, you might have to have a set number just on the door of any venue or club plus extra for the capacity.Any bouncers should have a ticket/license as well, not just any hard looking Tom Dick or Harry.
Guest Matt Male Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 simply ask the venue management. That's what i'd do. If i hire a venue i expect the management to tell what the rules and regulations are, surely that's their job? At the club we hire there have never been any mention of bouncers or door staff, granted 50 is a good night for us, but they also run singles nights, Jazz nights and massive Asian weddings and i'm pretty sure they don't have door staff either. When was the last time you went to a wedding with bouncers? I always thought any public liability was covered by the club as well if they are properly insured? Luckily our venue is a massive professionally run sports centre where the Cov City team train, so i think they probably know their stuff and would tell us if there was a problem.
Wiganer1 Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 i have a maximum of 4 bouncers at my coop..minimum of 3......current ones i got are the best ones ive had,,,,dear but excellent...
Russ Vickers Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 I would suggest anyone that runs an event without security is taking a huge risk, 99.9% of the time at a Soul event you wont need them, but there may be the one time you do & I can tell you from experience if someone is injured you'll blame your self for ever........I find that if you personally brief the security on what you expect from them you'll avoid any problems. Russ
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