Guest so-char Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Who are the artists Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Billy & Betty, who recorded on Sag-Port? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Billy & Betty, who recorded on Sag-Port? I think Billy is also the billy behind Billy and the Hi-Liners Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Were they twins? It is a bit like the Stunners on Renfro. Were they Stunners? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Were they twins? It is a bit like the Stunners on Renfro. Were they Stunners? And did the AD-LIBS ...ad lib:D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Were they twins? It is a bit like the Stunners on Renfro. Were they Stunners? hahaha..pmsl Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alan Walls Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 hahaha..pmsl Was Billy Arnell's bird really so hard? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Back on topic Billy & Betty who? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Mr Manship has a copy on list and website described as Detroit Northern Soul Have always thought of this one as out of Chicago Anyone shed any light please? Brilliant record - wherever it comes from Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 totally chicago Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Cheers Bob - thanks for confirming I just love the record and have had a copy for many years - well before I knew the Magnetics version even existed Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Who are the artists Obviously uses the same backing track as The Magnetics "Count The Days" which is on Sable as well. I have always thought the Magnetics to be first and The Soulful twins a few years later. But there must be some connection, as the both use the same label name. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 used to be a regular £5 or 5 for £20 on pat bradys list and was in a lot of boxes in the 90`s. ive just seen it for £250 which i think is obscene. was going to post in the overpriced section thats goin on currently. great record but £250 never in the creation.................................. £75 maybe dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) Err, one on my sales post at the mo' but on hold. True always was a fiver tune in 80s but there genuinely doesn't seem to be that many around these days, rarely listed, unless everybody's hogging em! Also is it actually defo exactly the same backing track, or a bit like the Rockmasters / Sapphires, same but different if you know what I mean? Edited February 19, 2011 by mark w. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Err, one on my sales post at the mo' but on hold. True always was a fiver tune in 80s but there genuinely doesn't seem to be that many around these days, rarely listed, unless everybody's hogging em! Also is it actually defo exactly the same backing track, or a bit like the Rockmasters / Sapphires, same but different if you know what I mean? dont know mark not seen your sales. this is on a major dealer list that dropped thru the door this morning dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 just looked mark and £80 is a decent price on it so no wonder it sold unless my pitch about the price sold it for you lol dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 fyi, none of the magnetics were the soulful twins, it's just the same backing track Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ulrich Leitl Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 i paid 90$ last year for a mint- but warped copy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Currently £250 on Manship's site/list Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Currently £250 on Manship's site/list ......£150 TOO MUCH BRI PINCH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Currently £250 on Manship's site/list Cheers Richard Makes the £60 i paid for mine last year look a real bargin Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve L Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) used to be a regular £5 or 5 for £20 on pat bradys list and was in a lot of boxes in the 90`s. ive just seen it for £250 which i think is obscene. was going to post in the overpriced section thats goin on currently. great record but £250 never in the creation.................................. £75 maybe dave Still got loads of PB's lists from 93/94ish, like you say dave this was in the bargains bonanza section, if you bought 10 it was £30 so £3 a piece which i did on some occasions but unfortunately not the S/Twins . Some other things in those sections also fetching money now like Johnny Sayles on st Lawrence! If only you could turn the clock back. On the other hand there's other things that he had for say £30-40 that havent really increased in value so without hindsight the skill would have been picking the right ones at the time and how many can say they actually did this all the time? Edited February 20, 2011 by Steve L Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Still got loads of PB's lists from 93/94ish, like you say dave this was in the bargains bonanza section, if you bought 10 it was £30 so £3 a piece which i did on some occasions but unfortunately not the S/Twins . Some other things in those sections also fetching money now like Johnny Sayles on st Lawrence! If only you could turn the clock back. On the other hand there's other things that he had for say £30-40 that havent really increased in value so without hindsight the skill would have been picking the right ones at the time and how many can say they actually did this all the time? thats right steve i did the same but always thought i`d hold out for a magnetics which was only about £2/250 back then and me and bri could just about swing it. sadly wages havent gone up with inflation dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 used to be a regular £5 or 5 for £20 on pat bradys list and was in a lot of boxes in the 90`s. ive just seen it for £250 which i think is obscene. was going to post in the overpriced section thats goin on currently. great record but £250 never in the creation.................................. £75 maybe dave That's where i got my first one from, which i swapped for another single (can't remember what, but it was a £15 record at the time). Eventually picked up a second copy off eBay for about £15 all in, before it went silly. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 When this record was adout as Keith said a fiver would buy it,i understood that Mr Anderson(i think)had some coppies knocked up from the master tape,but it was a long time ago.Gilly Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 used to be a regular £5 or 5 for £20 on pat bradys list and was in a lot of boxes in the 90`s. ive just seen it for £250 which i think is obscene. was going to post in the overpriced section thats goin on currently. great record but £250 never in the creation.................................. £75 maybe dave I'd say £75 was too much! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) When this record was adout as Keith said a fiver would buy it,i understood that Mr Anderson(i think)had some coppies knocked up from the master tape,but it was a long time ago.Gilly Are you saying they are all bootlegs?? Edited February 24, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 No not bootlegs a product that someone has done with the owner of the master tapes so bootleg isnt the correct word issued years after they were first laid on a studio tape. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 No not bootlegs a product that someone has done with the owner of the master tapes so bootleg isnt the correct word issued years after they were first laid on a studio tape. Hi Gilly.Good point raised here. How long between recording and putting to vinyl is considered ok?. If it was a month and we (on the soul scene) on non the wiser,no problem.But when it becomes common knowledge that,say, it was a few years gap,then we get the jitters. .Sorry to be off topic btw. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) No not bootlegs a product that someone has done with the owner of the master tapes so bootleg isnt the correct word issued years after they were first laid on a studio tape. Are they a 1970's custom product 45rpm, made for the Northern Soul scene? If they were made for a UK dealer, it seems strange that there are so many copies on popsike, sold from the USA. Edited February 25, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mak Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Don't give a flyin fcuk , I have two copies and I love the record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 No not bootlegs a product that someone has done with the owner of the master tapes so bootleg isnt the correct word issued years after they were first laid on a studio tape. Really? I had no idea. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
tosspot Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thank the Lord i paid £4 for it (from Rudzy in the early 90s, always used to knock him down a £ or 2 lol) Keep your shirts on, i bought 100s of 45s from him Rob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 No doubt I'll see John Anderson at Allentown, so I'll ask him about this. He's quite open about what he had pressed by record companies bitd. To me it looks like a mid 60s Chicago press - the label font looks spot on. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 You could well be right,as to my first post on this topic its what was being said at the time.It is a brill record but not as good(in my opinion)as the Magnetics,both sides in my top 20 of all time but never owned one,did have 2 of the Holding on 45 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 quick reply to this as I'm just about to pop out to the Wilton... spoke to John Anderson at Prestatyn and he told me the following: Soulful Twins is a genuine release, he didn't have them pressed, and the reason thay have a different label design is because it was distributed by Onederful/ He got them as part of his large One-der-ful, Mar-V-Lus, M-Pac hit (I think he said he purchased circa 200 of them along with 400 of the Ringleaders on M-pac) and that there were 'loads' left by him. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 quick reply to this as I'm just about to pop out to the Wilton... spoke to John Anderson at Prestatyn and he told me the following: Soulful Twins is a genuine release, he didn't have them pressed, and the reason thay have a different label design is because it was distributed by Onederful/ He got them as part of his large One-der-ful, Mar-V-Lus, M-Pac hit (I think he said he purchased circa 200 of them along with 400 of the Ringleaders on M-pac) and that there were 'loads' left by him. Thanks for that excellent information, its good that it has been cleared up. Sometimes record collecting originals, can make one a bit paranoid!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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