Northern Soul Movie

[Guest]

Hmmm....sounds like a challenge to me!

100 club anniv. Sat 26th Sept?

Col.

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[Dave]

Couldn't attend. surely you mean chose not to attend due to your changing priorities, oh and a scene that was suddenly hard work to keep going and wasnt presented to you in one neat venue. Some of us chose the scene over, or even as well as  families etc, all through the 80's.

Despite Bretts apology later I agree with him above, the 80's was when the scene became proper again and properly underground, the way it should be for many of us who very rarely attend due to current state. If staying underground means no more newcomers then so be it, selfish I know but so what it would mean a scene attractive to me and people who I think make the scene, not lots of people who can just pop down to their local sceneor who want to be somebody. And this is not a dig at newcomers, the ones who I have met (Shane, Baz are the type we want but lets get real these are the exception as Shane later points out.

And before you spout about different types of music as you do later in thread, I buy everything from 1960 to 2005, but if I want to hear funk or reggae or house I will go to to the sort of place where I will hear the real deal, not a watered down night where they play something to appeal to the masses.

I have for years agreed with the lets drop Northern for Rare soul or something but seeing your logic for it makes me think there is good reason to keep it as Ken says, as all you seem to want to do is create a watered down scene, I often regret i dont make more of an effort these days but reading posts like your various ones on this thread makes me remember why I dont bother.

Jock

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I did manage to get out of the house occassionally in the 80s, but yes, I do mean that generally I "chose not to attend due to my changing priorities". To my mind I got those priorities right.

I didn't take to the term fair weather soulie as since those priorities have changed I put a fair few miles in attending events.

Why is it so important to you that the scene should be underground?

I personally value the quality of the music, the company and the events in general more than exclusivity....and there are events today where that quality is as good as it's ever been.

When I "spouted", as you put it, about a diversity of black music, I also said "as long as it is good...", so why do you interpret that as wanting a "watered down night..."?

If, as you say, you don't make much of an effort to attend these days....what qualifies you to say that X or Y "are the type we want"?

Like I said before, we are all entitled to an opinion, and I'm a little surprised that mine has engendered such hostility in you!

Dave

[Guest rachel]

James, i wish i shared your optimism (i aint having a dig either). I still believe there is only handfulls of youngsters popping up here and there. I know you are still in your twenties, i am 31. We are the real minority and i cant see that changing to be honest. I can see the scene shrinking dramatically in about 10 years time but i aint worried to be honest. I believe there will be one or two events a month in a small club somewhere and all those who remain will have to travel that bit further and not as frequent. The quality should be second to none though when all those quality records that are deep in collections end up in new hands.

I hope I am wrong.

Shane

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I think you're probably right. No doubt there'll still be the occasional big oldies event but I think the 'hardcore' of the scene will be what you describe. If the music does grab a younger (teenage) generation I suspect it'll be in a different context to our current scene... there are already more 'mainstream' clubs that play northern mixed in with indie/ general 60s/ all sorts of stuff (I went to one nearly ten years ago which is still going).

Considering the music we listen to is mostly over 30 years old I think it's always going to appeal to someone and not just disappear.... but I also think we should just relax and enjoy what we've got - here and now.

[Guest]

Hmmm....sounds like a challenge to me!

100 club anniv. Sat 26th Sept?

Col.

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I would be in it but since the talc ban ?????????

[Toodarnsoulful]

I would be in it but since the talc ban ?????????

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Whats all this talc ban talk then? have i missed somethin? I remember a while ao peeps havin a chat about banning talc...

Liam - still searchin for the comfi dance shoe shop..

[wendy]

I would be in it but since the talc ban ?????????

WHAT!! I thought they always had a talc ban, what with those A4 posters on the columns saying 'no talc' or whaever. ..n people just ignored them and smuggled the talc in with their nagans

[Toodarnsoulful]

WHAT!!  I thought they always had a talc ban, what with those A4 posters on the columns saying 'no talc' or whaever. ..n people just ignored them and smuggled the talc in with their nagans

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My mind must just have blanked those banned signs out... Imperial leather or Johnstons!? thats the question!

[Toodarnsoulful]

Going to Dublin this Friday Wendy?

[Soulsmith]

My mind must just have blanked those banned signs out... Imperial leather or Johnstons!? thats the question!

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All good except 'Morrisons'.......cheap northern trash

Col.

[Simsy]

All good except 'Morrisons'.......cheap northern trash

Col.

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They have them in the south too these days. Visited one in Clacton recently I ashamed to say. Do sell nice Seabrook crisps though

[wendy]

My mind must just have blanked those banned signs out... Imperial leather or Johnstons!? thats the question!

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ha! spending cash on expensive talc? are you mad? i get the cheapest stuff they have in the pound shop.

n hell yeah! cant wait for sleepless

[Guest]

They have them in the south too these days.  Visited one in Clacton recently I ashamed to say.  Do sell nice Seabrook crisps though

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Nowt wrong with Morrisons,went yesterday

[Simsy]

ha! spending cash on expensive talc? are you mad? i get the cheapest stuff they have in the pound shop.

n hell yeah! cant wait for sleepless

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No way Wend. Except no substitutes!

[Guest]

No way Wend.    Except no substitutes!

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Me,i borrow someone els`s...... but not at the 100club......

[Guest]

No way Wend.    Except no substitutes!

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In that case, its got to be the great smell of brut

[Guest dundeedavie]

https://www.trainerstation.com/catalog/prod...products_id=409

what yous reckon? are these authentic enough?

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i got a pair of them .....kangaroo leather lovely , can't beat a pair of trainers made out of skippy ...crap for dancing in though.

on saturday at stoke i wore my original green and yellow SL76 , they are much better cos the have a harder sole from the days when the technology wasn't so good .

adidas japan are nice too (especially the orange ones even though people laugh at me for wearing them )

Davie

[Guest]

Just like to add something, my first post was a product of machine gunning the keyboard without much thought, both Andy and Dave are mates of mine and whos company i enjoy aswell as the odd beer . With some reflection i really meant that any outside venture ie media etc, always seem to concentrate on the so called Golden Age (and hey i don't doubt that it was...) of the middle 70's.

But i only know the 80's and not the the years before, so i can only empathise with my own personal experiences of this scene, just irks me when the "Outside Media" overlook these other eras.

I have worked with, gone out with, many, many people who attended all the legendary past events and always enjoyed and respected the stories of the old days, and i always will, guess i was just born "Too Late". (i bought that Williams & Watson thing when i was a baby on the circuit

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[wendy]

yeah - shame on you Brett! I'm surprised by this recent outburst of yours, I always thought you were the voice of reason

can you still get Brut talc? and soap on a rope?

dundeedavie thanks for the addidas advice, very much appreciated

[Guest]

You can still get the talc Wendy, not sure about the soap on a rope. I love the smell of Brutt, really reminds me of years ago, I have a pot of it which I sniff now and then

[Guest]

yeah - shame on you Brett! I'm surprised by this recent outburst of yours, I always thought you were the voice of reason

can you still get Brut talc? and soap on a rope?

dundeedavie thanks for the addidas advice, very much appreciated

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Your a nutter.......

[Dave]

I love the smell of Brutt, really reminds of Kevin Keegan in the shower on that advert, I have a pot of it which I sniff now and then 

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[Guest Baz]

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[Guest]

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Dave, you are a very naughty boy

[Dave]

Dave, you are a very naughty boy   

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Sorry...boredom

Incidentally Karen.... you would know this....how come Keegans perm never went lank, for want of a better word, in that shower with 'Enery?

[Guest]

Sorry...boredom

Incidentally Karen.... you would know this....how come Keegans perm never went lank, for want of a better word, in that shower with 'Enery?

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Ive never been in a shower with Kevin Keegan and our 'enry so I wouldn't know

[jocko]

I did manage to get out of the house occassionally in the 80s, but yes, I do mean that generally I "chose not to attend due to my changing priorities". To my mind I got those priorities right.

[Guest Soultown andy]

Understand the point your trying to make jock,but cant agree that makeing something bigger means you have to let the quality drop.we have [soultown lifeline backbeat]succesfuly moved our allniters from a club that holds 200[sheridans] to the middleton venue which holds 700 plus,and by no means lost any quality in the music being played.If anything because of the 3 room policy and

the high standard of jocks in residency i would honestly say our nites are getting better,surely the quality of a nite is down to the people running it not the number in attendance.

[FrankM]

Jocko

Is this one of your earlier essays?

Searching for the Young Soul Rebel

Are you Kevin Rowland in disguise?

FrankM

[jocko]

Jocko

Is this one of your earlier essays?

Searching for the Young Soul Rebel

Are you Kevin Rowland in disguise?

FrankM

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SOme would say not that well disguised due to our similarities in the way we dress, although hopefully I am slightly more authentic than him, oops sorry preaching again.

One of the problems of not getting out much is turned me into a miserable old git with time on his hands, from a miserable young git with no time on my hands!!

Play something suitable for me on Saturday afternoon then Frank!

Cheers

Jock

[jocko]

Understand the point your trying to make jock,but cant agree that makeing something bigger means you have to let the quality drop.we have [soultown lifeline backbeat]succesfuly moved our allniters from a club that holds 200[sheridans] to the middleton venue which holds 700 plus,and by no means lost any quality in the music being played.If anything because of the 3 room policy and

the high standard of jocks in residency i would honestly say our nites are getting better,surely the quality of a nite is down to the people running it not the number in attendance.

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Absolutely Andy, there are always exceptions, although would suggest thats the issue, they are only exceptions not the norm, and hopefully its not coming over as me saying everythings crap nowadays, was really answering some points on how to move current scene along and was disagreeing, while spouting some thoughts of my tastes.

Could be a devil however and say that you have lost a bit of quality from Sheridans as no Butch (probably not as bad as he plays elsewhere lots) and no Cliff Steele, one of the top guys for my musical taste (note my taste not everyone elses ), however am being pedantic and looking for things to moan about there!!!

Have heard good things about Middleton from people I trust, so may try and get my bathchair pushed down for one!

Cheers

Jock

[Guest Soultown andy]

Cliffe steele will be offered bookings for middleton next year but defo not butch,both will be on at lifelines new venue the fox in grantham dec 10th.Come down and visit jocko we were worried about the move to bigger venue but seems to be working .Does anybody know of anybody who has made it through the auditions for the film yet.

[sister dawn]

Does anybody know of anybody who has made it through the auditions for the film yet.

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[wendy]

Does anybody know of anybody who has made it through the auditions for the film yet.

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yep - me, pip, his girl Ciara, Paul Mulholland....and an assortment of breakdancers

[Guest]

I've been reading this thread with gret interest

The passion is fantastic, even if some of the information is inacurate,

and some misgivings misplaced.

And now that the secret is out, let me fill you guys in on a few things.

The story of 'Souled Out' is set around the Wigan Casino in 1974. It is not a documentary, it is a fictional tale. But every measure is being taken to ensure that every attention to detail will be loving recreated in the making of the film. A vast amount of research has been conducted in an attempt to make the sights and sounds of the Casino as authentic as possible. For me, this is the secret of credible filmmaking.

Anyone who every spent a night at the Casino has very special memories of their time spent there. Those memories are wrapped in a nostalgia that is still played out today at All-Nighters up and down the country. We become very protective of these memories, of the scene, as if it's our special secret that nobody else would understand. "You had to be there" I hear people say. "You wouldn't understand what it was like".

Well I want people to finally understand what it was like to feel your heart pounding out on the floor. I don't claim to be the ultimate expert on Northern Soul, nor do I claim that this film is the definitive film of the scene. There are many different stories that can be told. Everyone has their own story to tell. 'Souled Out' is our story and we plan to tell it as best we can. I hope over the coming months you can make a contribution to this film in various ways. Even playing a fat bastard holding the bar up!

Patience. Just a little more pateice, and I'll keep y'all posted.

[Mark Bicknell]

I've been reading this thread with gret interest

The passion is fantastic, even if some of the information is inacurate,

and some misgivings misplaced. 

And now that the secret is out, let me fill you guys in on a few things.

The story of 'Souled Out' is set around the Wigan Casino in 1974. It is not a documentary, it is a fictional tale. But every measure is being taken to ensure that every attention to detail will be loving recreated in the making of the film. A vast amount of research has been conducted in an attempt to make the sights and sounds of the Casino as authentic as possible. For me, this is the secret of credible filmmaking.

Anyone who every spent a night at the Casino has very special memories of their time spent there. Those memories are wrapped in a nostalgia that is still played out today at All-Nighters up and down the country. We become very protective of these memories, of the scene, as if it's our special secret that nobody else would understand. "You had to be there" I hear people say. "You wouldn't understand what it was like".

Well I want people to finally understand what it was like to feel your heart pounding out on the floor. I don't claim to be the ultimate expert on Northern Soul, nor do I claim that this film is the definitive film of the scene. There are many different stories that can be told. Everyone has their own story to tell. 'Souled Out' is our story and we plan to tell it as best we can. I hope over the coming months you can make a contribution to this film in various ways. Even playing a fat bastard holding the bar up!

Patience. Just a little more pateice, and I'll keep y'all posted.

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Fat bloke at bar please my folks were married...lol

Anything you need in terms of support from me via my radio show please ask, let's hope it all comes together.

All the very best - Mark Bicknell aka Fat bastard under the bar...lol

[chrissie]

I've been reading this thread with gret interest

The passion is fantastic, even if some of the information is inacurate,

and some misgivings misplaced. 

And now that the secret is out, let me fill you guys in on a few things.

The story of 'Souled Out' is set around the Wigan Casino in 1974. It is not a documentary, it is a fictional tale. But every measure is being taken to ensure that every attention to detail will be loving recreated in the making of the film. A vast amount of research has been conducted in an attempt to make the sights and sounds of the Casino as authentic as possible. For me, this is the secret of credible filmmaking.

Anyone who every spent a night at the Casino has very special memories of their time spent there. Those memories are wrapped in a nostalgia that is still played out today at All-Nighters up and down the country. We become very protective of these memories, of the scene, as if it's our special secret that nobody else would understand. "You had to be there" I hear people say. "You wouldn't understand what it was like".

Well I want people to finally understand what it was like to feel your heart pounding out on the floor. I don't claim to be the ultimate expert on Northern Soul, nor do I claim that this film is the definitive film of the scene. There are many different stories that can be told. Everyone has their own story to tell. 'Souled Out' is our story and we plan to tell it as best we can. I hope over the coming months you can make a contribution to this film in various ways. Even playing a fat bastard holding the bar up!

Patience. Just a little more pateice, and I'll keep y'all posted.

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Thanks for keeping us in the picture. I am sure it is most appreciated. Everyones memories of Wigan are special and personal and quite often conflict. It seems to me that you are doing your best to portray the feeling of actually being there.

It is hard sometimes to portray something that was so special to many of us in so many different ways and sometimes people get emotional when they feel that their memories are being (trying to find the right word but this will have to do) raped and pillaged ( sorry that was three words).

Our funny little world we call Northern Soul has been badly portrayed in the past by people who do not understand it or have used it purely as a commercial vehicle and I think some of the negatives posts are just a reflection of what has happened in the past.

I for one wish you well and I hope the film is everything you hope it to be. And for all those of you who have been negative about it I suggest, that like me, hold on to your own memories of Wigan and I hope that the film brings back memories of the earlier days of Wigan that I remember (OK so I'm old).

QoF

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[Guest]

Can't wait

went tesco and got me popcorn

[sister dawn]

[it is hard sometimes to portray something that was so special to many of us in so many different ways and sometimes people get emotional when they feel that their memories are being (trying to find the right word but this will have to do) raped and pillaged ( sorry that was three words).

Our funny little world we call Northern Soul has been badly portrayed in the past by people who do not understand it or have used it purely as a commercial vehicle and I think some of the negatives posts are just a reflection of what has happened in the past.

QoF

xx

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[Guest becchio]

double post sorry

Edited March 23, 2010 by becchio

[Guest becchio]

date='11 Aug 2005 - 04:36 PM' timestamp='1123778211' post='156820']

the best thing to hope for is that is is realistic and correct in details etc ....get rid of the repro bag first though eh lolol

Picky Davie

[Simsy]

1616 posts across three threads and five years and what have we learned with this mass debate?

I. Wait till it comes out, then see.

II. It's only a film.

[Guest becchio]

1616 posts across three threads and five years and what have we learned with this mass debate?

I. Wait till it comes out, then see.

II. It's only a film.

1. its too late then

2. not to the people who went to wigan casino it isnt

[Reg]

1616 posts across three threads and five years and what have we learned with this mass debate?

I. Wait till it comes out, then see.

II. It's only a film.

Yes exactly my old son:lol:

Shall we leave it and just see whether it is straight to dvd or a classic like...errr Brassed Off..err substitute brass band/Northern....I'm sure they called a tuba a euphonioum in that film....grrrrr

P.S guys I am kidding, trying to be light hearted. If we're carrying on with this now please be nice:thumbsup:

[Guest Simon]

Just seen this has been posted against the trailer on YouTube:

Now who d'ya reckon could've posted that!

• "I just want to say on here publicly that this film looks BRILLIANT and I can't wait to see it. There is a forum called Soul Source full of pompous sad and bitter individuals who are so jealous and possessive that they don't want anyone else to spoil their little closeted scene, till they all die of old age and the scene dies with them. They make me vomit. I hate them. Good for the makers of this film. I welcome and applaud them"

[Guest proudlove]

• Probably a pompous sad and bitter individual who is so jealous and possessive that he doesn't want anyone else to spoil his and his acolytes little closeted scene, till they all die of old age and his scene dies with them?.

[Guest Dave Turner]

Just seen this has been posted against the trailer on YouTube:

Now who d'ya reckon could've posted that!

• "I just want to say on here publicly that this film looks BRILLIANT and I can't wait to see it. There is a forum called Soul Source full of pompous sad and bitter individuals who are so jealous and possessive that they don't want anyone else to spoil their little closeted scene, till they all die of old age and the scene dies with them. They make me vomit. I hate them. Good for the makers of this film. I welcome and applaud them"

That and his other comments just shows what sad spoilt tw-t he really is.

Here's one fer ya ----------

[Zed1]

[Guest Paul]

1616 posts across three threads and five years and what have we learned with this mass debate?

I. Wait till it comes out, then see.

II. It's only a film.

Hello Simsy,

Sorry I wasn't paying attention to all the postings.

Do you mind if we run through them all again just in case I missed anything?

And I'll try not to get distracted this time.

[Simsy]

Hello Simsy,

Sorry I wasn't paying attention to all the postings.

Do you mind if we run through them all again just in case I missed anything?

And I'll try not to get distracted this time.

Tsk, try and keep up Paul ..

Are you sitting comfortably? Good, then we'll begin..

It all started like this ..

Hi, Any of you guys know about this

https://www.ipsofacto...souled_out.html