Guest Posted October 18, 2010 Posted October 18, 2010 Really chuffed today cause I got a parcel from Jamaica with this in it ! Anyway just a few questions: I didn't know this 45 up until a couple of years ago and for a tune of this quality to be released in the uk and in Ja and not to have been "discovered" and played on the Northern, RnB, / Mod scenes back the 1980s and 1990s I find really surprising. Getting me thinking that this is really a hard tune on either label ? So how many Soul Sourcers have the Dr Bird copys and how many have the Gay feet copys ? And who are the DJs playing this kicking tune out there ? I would have thought the Jamaican release will be by far the rarer 45 ? I love the original Jamaican 45s - they have that certain thing about them for me. How did this third world country in the 1960s with limited resources make such wonderful music and manage to press it onto vinyl. I don't know but I am glad they did ! and I know I am going back there in April ! Thanks to pete smith - cause this was unknown to me until a couple of years ago fooking love this at the moment !
Guest Posted October 18, 2010 Posted October 18, 2010 Patsy with Lyn Taitt And The Jets - A man is a too face -
Guest Posted October 18, 2010 Posted October 18, 2010 Patsy with Lyn Taitt And The Jets - A man is a too face - Ooh thats nice.
Guest Posted October 18, 2010 Posted October 18, 2010 (edited) Ooh thats nice. Ken, its just "a little black girl echoing back the blues ! LOL" Played loud Ken this 45 has what it takes IMO If I was a DJ i would deffo give it a spin ! The Bass line is to die for ! lyrics like........................... "this look like a trap sister " Its a cool 45 ! its been for sale three times on here before on Dr Bird - once for sale by Tony Rounce and twice for sale by Pete Smith. other than these three times it has never been offered for sale on this site. apart from JMs auction which was where one of Petes copys ended up. So with Nigel floods Ja copy, the scottish DJs Ja and my Ja copy there are 3 Jamaican issues in the uk whos got the rest ? And 3 (or 4) known uk issues ! obviously more in reggae collections ! so how rare is it ? any one got any more ? great funky shit ! Edited October 19, 2010 by mossy
Guest Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 Ken, its just "a little black girl echoing back the blues ! LOL" Played loud Ken this 45 has what it takes IMO If I was a DJ i would deffo give it a spin ! The Bass line is to die for ! lyrics like........................... "this look like a trap sister " Its a cool 45 ! its been for sale three times on here before on Dr Bird - once for sale by Tony Rounce and twice for sale by Pete Smith. other than these three times it has never been offered for sale on this site. apart from JMs auction which was where one of Petes copys ended up. So with Nigel floods Ja copy, the scottish DJs Ja and my Ja copy there are 3 Jamaican issues in the uk And 3 (or 4) known uk issues ! any one got any more ? great funky shit ! I would just like to thank pedro smith and his podcasts btw I really would advise music fans to have a go at his site
Guest Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 One nice Dr Bird copy is in switzerland and gets regular spins
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 There are plenty of Doctor Bird copies of this 45 in UK reggae collections, I assure you, Mossy - mostly for the Lennie Hibbert/Count Ossie version of Johnny Lytle's 'The Loop' on the other side, I meet up for a drink once a week with three people who have a DB copy, and that's just in the Wallington-Carshalton area! It's also been played fairly extensively on the R & B scene for quite a while, to my (increasingly limited) knowledge, so it's not just reggae collectors who control copies either, I flogged mine because a) I picked up a copy of of the 100% legit, limited edition Japanese reissues that were in circulation last year and b) I simply don't think it;s as good as Johnny Taylor's 'Blues In The Night', which it's patently a version of (although in that great Jamaican tradition, Patsy Todd gets quite a lot of the lyrics wrong...) It's a hard record to find in decent condition, but even though I got a couple of hundred quid for my centreless copy I don't really regard it as being that rare:no:
Guest Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 There are plenty of Doctor Bird copies of this 45 in UK reggae collections, I assure you, Mossy - mostly for the Lennie Hibbert/Count Ossie version of Johnny Lytle's 'The Loop' on the other side, I meet up for a drink once a week with three people who have a DB copy, and that's just in the Wallington-Carshalton area! It's also been played fairly extensively on the R & B scene for quite a while, to my (increasingly limited) knowledge, so it's not just reggae collectors who control copies either, I flogged mine because a) I picked up a copy of of the 100% legit, limited edition Japanese reissues that were in circulation last year and b) I simply don't think it;s as good as Johnny Taylor's 'Blues In The Night', which it's patently a version of (although in that great Jamaican tradition, Patsy Todd gets quite a lot of the lyrics wrong...) It's a hard record to find in decent condition, but even though I got a couple of hundred quid for my centreless copy I don't really regard it as being that rare:no: Thanks Tony Thats where I would expect all the doctor bird copys to be, hidden away in all the reggae collections. Never to be seen again I really love the record. Just think its got everything to cross over onto the northern dance floor. I still think I would be hard pushed to get another copy any time soon, I was looking for a copy for a couple of years. But like you say - they are in reggae collections. Thanks mate m
TOAD Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 2 patsy posts get a grip i'll do with my queen patsy rocka shock cd with loads more decent tunes ps this is in refosoul years ago.....
Guest sharmo 1 Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 Really chuffed today cause I got a parcel from Jamaica with this in it ! Anyway just a few questions: I didn't know this 45 up until a couple of years ago and for a tune of this quality to be released in the uk and in Ja and not to have been "discovered" and played on the Northern, RnB, / Mod scenes back the 1980s and 1990s I find really surprising. Getting me thinking that this is really a hard tune on either label ? So how many Soul Sourcers have the Dr Bird copys and how many have the Gay feet copys ? And who are the DJs playing this kicking tune out there ? I would have thought the Jamaican release will be by far the rarer 45 ? I love the original Jamaican 45s - they have that certain thing about them for me. How did this third world country in the 1960s with limited resources make such wonderful music and manage to press it onto vinyl. I don't know but I am glad they did ! and I know I am going back there in April ! Thanks to pete smith - cause this was unknown to me until a couple of years ago fooking love this at the moment ! Hi there I've sold this at Prestatyn twice this weekend plus two copies of J. Opel Eternal love , a copie of Hopeton lewis You make me feel ( DEEP Soul) ,and the record by Byron Lee I don't think that it's that rare on Jamaican as we get this at least 10 times a year (Patsy /Lynne Taitt)We sell this for around thirty quid and I see it regulary on sales sites.We also sold the Lynne Taitt 10 inch funk monster we're having a party( Skin Flesh and bones) The incrowd indemander plus the Beres Hammond album and Soul Makossa by Joblonski on Randy's records ( an early seventy's cut of the ledgendary Manu Didango no) so these thing's arn't that rare people. all the best Si. Hunt
Guest Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 (edited) Hi there I've sold this at Prestatyn twice this weekend plus two copies of J. Opel Eternal love , a copie of Hopeton lewis You make me feel ( DEEP Soul) ,and the record by Byron Lee I don't think that it's that rare on Jamaican as we get this at least 10 times a year (Patsy /Lynne Taitt)We sell this for around thirty quid and I see it regulary on sales sites.We also sold the Lynne Taitt 10 inch funk monster we're having a party( Skin Flesh and bones) The incrowd indemander plus the Beres Hammond album and Soul Makossa by Joblonski on Randy's records ( an early seventy's cut of the ledgendary Manu Didango no) so these thing's arn't that rare people. all the best Si. Hunt seriously mate - if you have any patsy and lynne taitts on gay feet originals for 30 quid pm me i will buy them all off you there are only a couple on popsike heres one from last year - price and demand is deffo on the rise in the last couple of years IMO https://www.popsike.c...0325119998.html Edited October 19, 2010 by mossy
Guest sharmo 1 Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 seriously mate - if you have any patsy and lynne taitts on gay feet originals for 30 quid pm me i will buy them all off you there are only a couple on popsike heres one from last year - price and demand is deffo on the rise in the last couple of years IMO https://www.popsike.c...0325119998.html BLEEDING HELL no wonder those two got snapped up
Guest Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 2 patsy posts get a grip Toad - are your glasses steaming up again The other thread is Phyllis Dillon
Daniel Harvey Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 Patsy with Lynne Taiitt got spins at the last Melbourne weekender and made it on to the weekender CD so it's turned a few heads out this way. Personally , for a JA record I would take Jackie Opals Eternal love with the immense cry me a river on the flip...fairly cheap on orginal JA label and UK King...what a cracker!
TOAD Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 Toad - are your glasses steaming up again The other thread is Phyllis Dillon No you posted this twice plus it was allready in refosoul since 2008 ! just proves to me how slow the scene has become or is that the people on it ? BTW its LYN single N;)
Guest Dante Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 No you posted this twice plus it was allready in refosoul since 2008 ! just proves to me how slow the scene has become or is that the people on it ? BTW its LYN single N;) Come, on. Chill. He did a Refosoul post to put it up. Ok, prolly should have checked first. And this thread was to ask information about it, not to announce he had discovered a previously unknown record. And also, to share it with people who might like it, like me. And he did say he found out about the record a couple of years back (2008), so he's not probably as slow as you think.
Guest Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) Come, on. Chill. He did a Refosoul post to put it up. Ok, prolly should have checked first. And this thread was to ask information about it, not to announce he had discovered a previously unknown record. And also, to share it with people who might like it, like me. And he did say he found out about the record a couple of years back (2008), so he's not probably as slow as you think. Thanks Dante thats exactley why I posted on audio thread first and then a copy and paste here for a good chat about it you can't post refo straight into this section I did a search on lyn taitt and the jets and nothing came up as Pete Smith had posted it up as Patsy stop being a cantankerous missarable old turd Toad ! Seriously mate - I can see why folk fook off and dont bother posting when you get rubbish posts like that in return - I could take that personally If I gave a shit ! All we are doing here is talking about a record for fooks sake - and you start insinuating that I am slow on the uptake or something as for patronising my spelling - I really didnt expect that from you Toad ! - A POOR SHOW indeed and shame on you IMO !!!! You have unnecessarily spoilt what for me was an enjoyable thread about a 45 which I happen to like I don't understand what is wrong with you mate ! Really childish and pointless stuff IMO Edited October 20, 2010 by mossy
Pete S Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 Have to say I think it was Tony who first tipped me off to this record. I got one within 2 weeks on Doctor Bird, gave it to JM, think it went for between 250 and 300. The I got another one, can't remember what I did with it, may have sold it to Alex in Australia hence them spinning it over there. I haven't had another one because I stopped looking but I would never have looked for a Jamaican copy as I'd rather have them on UK than Jamaican. I had another truly fantastic record by Patsy on UK High Note, someone will remind me what it's called, I lent it to GlenWalton to play a good 3 years ago and haven't seen it since so someone give him a nudge for me...also lent him a great Hortense Ellis soul track on UK R & B. Finally the Jackie Opel is really common but great. I@ve got one for £20 on UK if anyone wants it.
Spacehopper Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 pete lyster played this at the last gloucester alnighter and im looking forward to hearing it again at bridgwater saturday:) i want one too please.....funny enuff the johnny taylor version was spun at the last soulfusion aswell
Nocker Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) Les at King Bee Records in Manchester has got one, and he's had it ages because he collects Reggae, he told me about it a couple of years ago, but didn't mention he had a spare at the time. When i called in a month or two later he tells me he sold his spare the same week were talking about it. you can guess my disappointment!! Cheers John PS I think he sold it for about a ton and both are UK Dr Bird Edited October 24, 2010 by Nocker
michael-j Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I had another truly fantastic record by Patsy on UK High Note, someone will remind me what it's called, "Find Someone" ? ("Love Is Divine" on Gay Feet) A-side is a reggae instro The Crashers 'Musical Fight' (titled on UK as The Gaytones - Target),
Pete S Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 "Find Someone" ? ("Love Is Divine" on Gay Feet) A-side is a reggae instro The Crashers 'Musical Fight' (titled on UK as The Gaytones - Target), Spot on, that's the one. Love it! Strange type of rhythm, neither ska nor soul, but it's brilliant.
Pete S Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Link to Patsy reissue https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Patsy-Man-Two-Face-Ska-R-b-listen-hear-/170556289178?pt=UK_Records&hash=item27b5f2709a
ricticman Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 pete lyster played this at the last gloucester alnighter and im looking forward to hearing it again at bridgwater saturday:) i want one too please.....funny enuff the johnny taylor version was spun at the last soulfusion aswell spot on Dean Newbury Rob sold me a copy last year / earlier this year, Dr Bird with the centre removed [ how can people do that ? ] but minty condition otherwise . went down a storm at Soul Nights @ Bridgwater last Sat night with 3 separate requests for it pete
Spacehopper Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 i suppose most people 'dinked' the middles out if they were djs rather than collectors as both U.S and JA vinyl had no middles so they didnt have to keep takin the adapters off an on the turntable ?especially the later stuff with a version on the b side for someone to 'chat' to...i know when working with a reggae sound most of my vinyl was jamaican and it was a pain trying to get the odd uk record off compared to the ja(only a slight annoyance i must add,never enuff to push a middle out myself )...and lets face it back then no one thought vinyl would be worth what it is today !! go gos john stapletons 'wanted record' shop in bris has been getting lots of reggae stuff lately,i wonder if hes got a copy somewhere...not that i could afford it now but would be nice to hear it at go go children in a couple of weeks dean
Guest Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 (edited) i suppose most people 'dinked' the middles out if they were djs rather than collectors as both U.S and JA vinyl had no middles so they didnt have to keep takin the adapters off an on the turntable ?especially the later stuff with a version on the b side for someone to 'chat' to...i know when working with a reggae sound most of my vinyl was jamaican and it was a pain trying to get the odd uk record off compared to the ja(only a slight annoyance i must add,never enuff to push a middle out myself )...and lets face it back then no one thought vinyl would be worth what it is today !! go gos john stapletons 'wanted record' shop in bris has been getting lots of reggae stuff lately,i wonder if hes got a copy somewhere...not that i could afford it now but would be nice to hear it at go go children in a couple of weeks dean thanks guys ! deffo a great brill tune and new to a lot of people - making a few waves on the scene ! and that's why I gave it the "Soul Source - In your box push " Thanks for all the good info ( not forgetting everyone but especially Tony and Pete as always) I for one will be hitting the floor when this comes on ! Kicking tune ! Edited October 27, 2010 by mossy
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