Product Warning - Record Box-dodgy Handle

[Lofty]

Hi All

Just a quick warning about a popular design of record box- and my experience at the weekend of the handle and box coming apart (result, box of 200 finest sounds bouncing down the stairs..eek).

In the interest of avoiding legal action Im going to pass on manufacturers/suppliers details, but you might know what Im on about if I describe the box as follows:

aluminium faced plywood construction, 200 45 box, single plastic handle, retails at about £30. (They also come in 100 45 capacity ally or black finish).

In my experience the current construction of the 200 45 box isnt up to the job, as I found out when simply walking down the stairs. No significant stresses involved, I wasnt swinging it about or anything.

Turns out that the black plastic is secured by two self tapper screws from inside, and on inspection - they had simply ripped out allowing the box and handle to part. As I said earlier, box bounces down the stairs, taking a nice dent in the wall on the way down.

The good news is the contents were unaffected by this, proving that the basic construction is good. I also went on to modify the handle by drilling it out, and using two 5mm bolts to resecure it (not a difficult job, but not one everyone would fancy). Im confident that the bolted-configuration should hold, so personally I plan to carry on using this design (expecting to modify any further boxes I buy), especially as I now know the impact protection is good. Incidently, I dont think the problem would exist on 100 45 boxes, as the weight should be within the capacity of the screws.

Bit of a dull message I know, but thought you might want to hear about it before someone has a less happy outcome.

Lofty

[Guest noss]

Contact the manufacturers, they are probably unaware of the design fault.

[Guest Baz]

Self tappers holding the handle on a disaster waiting to happen not having a clue what make of box you are on about, guess it just goes to prove that a little extra spent on a house for your 45's is a must

[Gary]

Hi All

Just a quick warning about a popular design of record box- and my experience at the weekend of the handle and box coming apart (result, box of 200 finest sounds bouncing down the stairs..eek).

In the interest of avoiding legal action Im going to pass on manufacturers/suppliers details, but you might know what Im on about if I describe the box as follows:

aluminium faced plywood construction, 200 45 box, single plastic handle, retails at about £30. (They also come in 100 45 capacity ally or black finish).

In my experience the current construction of the 200 45 box isnt up to the job, as I found out when simply walking down the stairs. No significant stresses involved, I wasnt swinging it about or anything.

Turns out that the black plastic is secured by two self tapper screws from inside, and on inspection - they had simply ripped out allowing the box and handle to part. As I said earlier, box bounces down the stairs, taking a nice dent in the wall on the way down.

The good news is the contents were unaffected by this, proving that the basic construction is good.  I also went on to modify the handle by drilling it out, and using two 5mm bolts to resecure it (not a difficult job, but not one everyone would fancy).  Im confident that the bolted-configuration should hold, so personally I plan to carry on using this design (expecting to modify any further boxes I buy), especially as I now know the impact protection is good.  Incidently, I dont think the problem would exist on 100 45 boxes, as the weight should be within the capacity of the screws.

Bit of a dull message I know, but thought you might want to hear about it before someone has a less happy outcome.

Lofty

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Just about to buy one of these (i think), wont bother now.

Thanks

[vnicepce]

Self tappers holding the handle on a disaster waiting to happen   not having a clue what make of box you are on about, guess it just goes to prove that a little extra spent on a house for your 45's is a must

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A mate of mine used to run a DJ wares Shop-these boxes are the spirit of the age-look good, but the construction is NVG engineering-sign of the times (although its been going on long enough)

[Guest Baz]

I use a solid constructed aluminium Numark 200 box, not a cheap one at £65 but well worth the extra cash especially to house your cherrished 45's, its got a chunky black leather (or what looks like leather?) handle that is very well rivited on to the box.......nice solid design, just dont swing it about too much when your getting in taxi's

[jonbuck]

Hi All

aluminium faced plywood construction, 200 45 box, single plastic handle, retails at about £30. (They also come in 100 45 capacity ally or black finish).

Lofty

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serves you right for buying a cheap one good one's have T-Nuts holding the handles on

Jon Buck

Edited August 9, 2005 by jonbuck

[Pete S]

I use one of these

[Ged Parker]

Covers 33 will make you a custom made 'full flight' case at a very reasonable price. Not sure they can be beaten on quality or price skimp on the cash at your peril.

I think the £30 ones you can open them with any set of keys or a lollipop stick

If you want to frighten yourself value the contents of a 200 box (even 200 £5 boots) and then think about the wisdom of using a £30 box to keep them secure.

[Guest miff]

I got mine from Covers, after a recomendation from this site. Is it one of them ?

Whats wrong wth nameing a product if its no good. Report it to the company you got it from and see what they say if you get no satisfaction post it up on hear

Off to check my handle Now Thanks for the warning

[SteveM]

I use one of these

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The Lidl one burst has it ?

[Mattbolton]

I'll never forget Ian Dewhirst turning up to DJ with his 45's in a picnic hamper.

[Guest Trevski]

Wow deja-vu!

I got mine from covers,and they seem pretty good. However, I was going to do my spot at the York all-dayer when the lid (which was not locked) flew off, scattering 45's down the stairs! Fortunatly all survived, but it was a 'panic is on' situation

Thanks for the handle tip,I shall be adding a couple of bolts forthwith!

I will be looking out for a better one. As Ged says it's scary what value is in a playbox these days.

An 'average decent' tune is probably £50-£75. most are in the £100-150 to £300-£400 range, without talking megga stuff! If that gives a conservative average of £100 per disc, thats twenty grand on its way down the stairs Scary or what!!

Edited August 10, 2005 by Trevski

[hipshaker 05]

as has been said ............... you can't go wrong with a nice heavy duty one. i've got a couple, a 200 and a hernia inducing 600. rivets and holes for padlocks ..... no problems so far and if i swing them around whatever i am swinging them near wil come off worse. as i remember the 200 was about £70 and the 600 about £110. money well spent.

and what was money equally well spent was £45 on one of these trolleys to cart the bloody 600 one around on:

https://www.nuloop.com/details_dj_e.php?art=31423

[Guest Trevski]

Just got one of these babys!

Looks a damn sight tougher.

from here:

https://www.htfr.com/more-info/?catno=MR27305

Edited August 10, 2005 by Trevski

[Guest Trevski]

Just got this from Covers 33, I let them know of the design 'fault'!

Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention, I can assure you no

one has brought this problem to our notice and if you can let the people on

the site know we are addressing this complaint I would appreciate this very

much.

Also the case you mention is advertised as "Light Weight". But we also

sell the Wooden DJ case that is much stronger it has a cloth cover it

either Grey fleck or Black finish Its has reinforced plastic corners and

the handle is bolted on. These are made in 3 sizes to hold 100 , 200 or

300 7" singles and can be custom made to any size.

We have also got "Full Flight Aluminium" cases as above made of wood with

aluminium finish and heavy duty edges and corners

they can also be custom made as well as the standard sizes

Regards

Cameron

[Makemvinyl]

I use one of these

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Been copying Rob Smith