The Summits "toy Soldiers" On United International

[Gasher]

just saw this on the bay...fukin awesome..listen here

https://www.midwest45s.org/Ebay/TheSummits_ToySoldiers_UnitedInternational_643-A.mp3

anyone tell me anything about it..

never hear or seen it before

RARE??? is it played out..cant belive Id never seen or heard of it..PRICE???

I just love this...gasher

[Quinvy]

Thanks for pointing that out to everyone Gash

[Ged Parker]

Thanks for pointing that out to everyone Gash

Sadly its also in the ads to the right of his post so everyone will know about it now. Just off to cancel my now even more pointless snipe

Edited October 1, 2010 by ged parker

[Gasher]

SORRY CHAPS BUT FUK ME BOYS..ITS UP AT $800 DO YOU THINK NOBODY WILL HAVE SEEN IT.. :yes:

GUESS YOU WONT BE TELLIN ME ABOUT IT NOW THEN ...SORRY

[Ged Parker]

I set my snipe when it was at its $99.00 starting price but knew it would get spotted. I've known about it since the mid 80's when I had a 1 minute or so clip on a sales tape. I can't remember what it was priced at but I thought it was too expensive probably $20

Never heard it out but it is 'known' I'm sure.

[Philt]

I set my snipe when it was at its $99.00 starting price but knew it would get spotted. I've known about it since the mid 80's when I had a 1 minute or so clip on a sales tape. I can't remember what it was priced at but I thought it was too expensive probably $20

Never heard it out but it is 'known' I'm sure.

One of the best records ever made (IMHO of course)

Edited October 1, 2010 by PhilT

[funkyfeet]

Came out twice

LOVE IS BLIND b/w TOY SOLDIERS

UNITED INTERNATIONAL 643 books at £1000

I'LL BE OVER (TOMORROW) b/w TOY SOLDIERS

UNITED INTERNATIONAL 1848 books at £2000

As JM lists both as b side then I guess that means both are double sided northern, anybody got sound bites of the A Sides.

Edited October 1, 2010 by funkyfeet

[Dave Abbott]

"Love is Blind" soundclip is on the eBay auction. very Shrine-esque sounding to me in parts (IMO - before people tell me to wash me eras out lol)

Edited October 1, 2010 by Dave Abbott

[NEV]

Came out twice

LOVE IS BLIND b/w TOY SOLDIERS

UNITED INTERNATIONAL 643 books at £1000

I'LL BE OVER (TOMORROW) b/w TOY SOLDIERS

UNITED INTERNATIONAL 1848 books at £2000

As JM lists both as b side then I guess that means both are double sided northern, anybody got sound bites of the A Sides.

Not exactly a mint copy is it.?

.....Jimmy Burns original as well

[John Parker]

Very interesting..played the Love Is Blind side and thought I knew it and had it

Never seen record this before

The "Love is Blind " side is the same...though slower version..of " I Just Can't Win" by The Intensions on Moneytown which I play at York

Strange.............

[Quinvy]

I've tried to find a copy for a few years, before I sold up. The consensus from Butch/Andy Dyson was that it's a Carolina's 45. I'm desperate to hear the I'll be over tomorrow side from the other release.

[Guest]

"The consensus from Butch/Andy Dyson was that it's a Carolina's 45"

I have both records in my hands at the moment, I'd say they are Chicago presses.

To hear them just go to our rarest of the rare section at the site

[boba]

"The consensus from Butch/Andy Dyson was that it's a Carolina's 45"

I have both records in my hands at the moment, I'd say they are Chicago presses.

To hear them just go to our rarest of the rare section at the site

they are both chicago releases, "toy soldiers" also reuses an intensions backing track. probably the same group as on lasalle. I think they are from the south side.

[Quinvy]

"The consensus from Butch/Andy Dyson was that it's a Carolina's 45"

I have both records in my hands at the moment, I'd say they are Chicago presses.

To hear them just go to our rarest of the rare section at the site

Strange, I can only find the one release with "love is blind" on the flip. I wanted to hear the "I'll be over tomorrow" side.

Edited October 1, 2010 by Quinvy

[Gasher]

Hi John

As you have both to hand . Is there any chance you can post up a soundfile of

I'LL BE OVER (TOMORROW) PLEASE

regards Richie

"The consensus from Butch/Andy Dyson was that it's a Carolina's 45"

I have both records in my hands at the moment, I'd say they are Chicago presses.

To hear them just go to our rarest of the rare section at the site

[Guest]

Richie,

Ref: I'll be over (tomorrow).

Weird I thought I'd put it up there years ago, I'll try and add it again tomorrow morning before 11 iif not definately on Sunday. It'll be worth the wait it's a darn good slab of Northern Soul.

John

[Sharlow45]

they are both chicago releases, "toy soldiers" also reuses an intensions backing track. probably the same group as on lasalle. I think they are from the south side.

DC thought it was a Wichita, KS group, saying its the Smart Bros with a group in front. It's certainly a Chicago pressing. I found this copy on the South Side, so maybe that helps the south side group argument?

[boba]

DC thought it was a Wichita, KS group, saying its the Smart Bros with a group in front. It's certainly a Chicago pressing. I found this copy on the South Side, so maybe that helps the south side group argument?

I specifically think it's from Harvey, for what it's worth.

"I'll be over tomorrow" is a great side.

[Tai-pan]

I do think this is a Chicago 45. The other label releases suggest so.

Edited October 1, 2010 by Tai-Pan

[Gasher]

cheers mate.guiness in the tap for ya ...you da man

its not true what they all say about you Jo :yes:

the gasher

Richie,

Ref: I'll be over (tomorrow).

Weird I thought I'd put it up there years ago, I'll try and add it again tomorrow morning before 11 iif not definately on Sunday. It'll be worth the wait it's a darn good slab of Northern Soul.

John

[Prophonics 2029]

Cats out of the bag, the who pastes the freckers up is it that Mike?

[Manfromsoul45s]

Very interesting..played the Love Is Blind side and thought I knew it and had it

Never seen record this before

The "Love is Blind " side is the same...though slower version..of " I Just Can't Win" by The Intensions on Moneytown which I play at York

Strange.............

Intensions is better..

[boba]

Intensions is better..

i actually also think the intensions "she's my baby" is much better than "toy soldiers". it's also way cheaper. the summits is way rarer though.

[Guest turntableterra]

i actually also think the intensions "she's my baby" is much better than "toy soldiers". it's also way cheaper. the summits is way rarer though.

shame l.j. johnson had to go disco to earn some dollars, the intensions had a few nice tunes, checkout the one on usa, name slips my memory

[Quinvy]

i actually also think the intensions "she's my baby" is much better than "toy soldiers". it's also way cheaper. the summits is way rarer though.

I can't agree with you on that Bob. I've always found the lead singers voice [intensions] very grating to my ears. Screeching almost. Thank you for sharing your knowledge though mate. I never thought Toy Soldier sounded like a Carolina's recording, but I would never have doubted Butch and Andy's superior knowledge.

I like Toy Soldier, but it's the "I'll be over tomorrow" track that I was always looking for.

Best regards, Phil.

[Guest]

Summits - I'll be over (tomorrow)

soundfile and scan is up on R-O-T-R now

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/rarest-of-the-rare/S/3

[Quinvy]

Thanks for that John. That's sublime male group harmony......not really northern, but very good indeed.

[NEV]

i actually also think the intensions "she's my baby" is much better than "toy soldiers". it's also way cheaper. the summits is way rarer though.

Hi Bob

Thanks for that info ...i was gonna have a stab at Toy Soldiers but your right ,intensions is much better ,so i'll leave it for now and save my funds for another day:thumbsup:

[Manfromsoul45s]

i actually also think the intensions "she's my baby" is much better than "toy soldiers". it's also way cheaper. the summits is way rarer though.

Quite agree, much rarer...

[boba]

shame l.j. johnson had to go disco to earn some dollars, the intensions had a few nice tunes, checkout the one on usa, name slips my memory

I'm confused by your post, I think you're saying an LJ Johnson was in the intensions? that is incorrect (I think maybe soul harmony single said that).

[Dmc]

Boba is correct in stating that the Summits were a far South Side Chicago group. The music on the 45 in question was supplied by the Smart Brothers from Wichita, Kansas, and was produced by the ever-roving George Redman (aka Jorge Rojohombre). Besides the two Summits singles on United International, there also exists a Cornelius Neil & the Smart Brothers 45 entitled "I Cried A Long Time/ Oh-Oh (It's All Over For Me)." The United International label was related to United Continental (which issued two 45s by The Skytons), another of Mr. Redman's concerns.

[Guest]

How much did that last Summits auction go for?