When You First Started Going All-Nighters

[Guest ang b]

one of my first fav tunes i ever listen to was

Didi noel- let the music play

Judy street-what

Esther phillips-what a difference a day makes

Dana valery-you dont know where youre intrest lies

the poppies-there,s a pain in my heart

Garnet mimms-looking for you

Edited November 8, 2010 by ang b

[Guest ang b]

[Guest ang b]

i remember a record played out at Bradford that i loved by Big joe turner called show me the man that i am or something like that, but was told it was a cover up, never heard it since them days can anyone help me

[Petedillon]

These 3 stick out to me from my fledgling days at the Wheel, The Metro & Hernies in Leeds..

The Incredibles- Nothing Else To Say.

Dean Parrish- Determination

The Orlons-Spinning Top

[Guest roggert]

These 3 stick out to me from my fledgling days at the Wheel, The Metro & Hernies in Leeds..

The Incredibles- Nothing Else To Say.

Dean Parrish- Determination

The Orlons-Spinning Top

youre not the oscar toney junior i used to watch playing at the wheel?

[Petedillon]

no mate. just a big fan.Saw him a few times live and always tore me up.

youre not the oscar toney junior i used to watch playing at the wheel?

[Chris L]

These 3 stick out to me from my fledgling days at the Wheel, The Metro & Hernies in Leeds..

The Orlons-Spinning Top

Always wondered how people danced to this tempo....................

[Professorturnups]

Long time ago not sure if I heard these on my first visit to The Casino,But they just come to mind really vividly,

Were they massive tunes or just ones that I liked ??

Frankie Beverly --- If That's What You Wanted

Garnet Mimms --- Looking For You

Dena Barnes --- If You Ever Walk Out Of My Life (also really liked "These Heartaches")

The Salvadors --- Stick By Me Baby

The one sound that get's me thinking about it now is The Superlatives --- "I Still Love You", Far too fast to dance to nowadays(Except in the kitchen),But back in the day !!

Grant

Superlatives played 3+ times at last Blackpool - danced to it once only though!

Mark C

[Guest Swish]

At the Twisted Wheel, well I guess all the records blew my mind, but, and I mention this because through all the years I don't remember it ever being a massive sound again, well ERROL DIXON -I WANT just unbelievable.

I've been told I used to write my name in small letters on the labels of records i bought. (WHAT A DING!, but then again perhaps I wasn't because then I had no intention of ever selling them as long as I lived I was more worried about having them stolen).

Any way somewhere out there is a copy of this record on UK RAINBOW with my name written on it.

i f any of you have never heard it I suggest you drop whatever is available, put your headphones on, turn it up full blast, and stare at a photo of the Twisted Wheel.

You won't be disappointed.

[Guest Swish]

Nearly! IT WAS 1971---Boxing Night at Up The Junction. Whether it was played or not Ive been in northern soul orbit ever since.

Oh! and another..........Im Standing........That was a relatively late Stateside discovery, I seem to recall

Richard,

I knew it was Up the Junction instantly, (mind you it helps that I know you rather well).

As far as I know I'M STANDING was first played at the Junction.

I paid John Hill £25 for it on Stateside demo at that very venue.

(I had to pester him, nearly non-stop all night long, )

[Guest DeeJay]

I'll go for...Goodbye Nothing To Say-Nosmo King And The Javells.......Cochise-Paul Humphrey......The Zoo-The Comodores

AND FOR YOU,PREY TELL

difficult to say on my very first visit (remember everyones a divvy at the beginning )But! our first real do was a dayer at the Ritz, Manchesta,

i remember Johnny bragg, Fantasic Plastic Factory, and errrr maybe Sue Lynn

As for my first wigan venutures, biggies at the time were- Lou Roberts 10 to 1,Carmel Strings, and maybe Tamala lewis although i fancy that came a bit later.

DJ

[bri phill]

At the Twisted Wheel, well I guess all the records blew my mind, but, and I mention this because through all the years I don't remember it ever being a massive sound again, well ERROL DIXON -I WANT just unbelievable.

I've been told I used to write my name in small letters on the labels of records i bought. (WHAT A DING!, but then again perhaps I wasn't because then I had no intention of ever selling them as long as I lived I was more worried about having them stolen).

Any way somewhere out there is a copy of this record on UK RAINBOW with my name written on it.

i f any of you have never heard it I suggest you drop whatever is available, put your headphones on, turn it up full blast, and stare at a photo of the Twisted Wheel.

You won't be disappointed.

Your right a very underated Wheel classic for years it was always introduced as I NEED SOMEONE TO LOVE because the label was on the wrong side and no one cottened on including myself.

The fab re release had it the right way.

The Hoop was another great track by him.

Rufus Lumley wasn't that big at the Wheel but it got played a few times.

Regards

Brian

[Guest Swish]

Your right a very underated Wheel classic for years it was always introduced as I NEED SOMEONE TO LOVE because the label was on the wrong side and no one cottened on including myself.

The fab re release had it the right way.

The Hoop was another great track by him.

Rufus Lumley wasn't that big at the Wheel but it got played a few times.

Regards

Brian

No one ever introduced it at the Wheel because the D'Js never talked.

The labels are still the wrong way round on the Fab release.

Rufus Lumley was not discovered until Crewe Up the Junction.

I can't swear on my life to any of this but I'll bet you £100 I am right.

I never knew THE HOOP. I just had a listen, yeah, quite a nice tune.

Which of these 2 Errol Dixon numbers would you say is the better?

[bri phill]

No one ever introduced it at the Wheel because the D'Js never talked.

The labels are still the wrong way round on the Fab release.

Rufus Lumley was not discovered until Crewe Up the Junction.

I can't swear on my life to any of this but I'll bet you £100 I am right.

I never knew THE HOOP. I just had a listen, yeah, quite a nice tune.

Which of these 2 Errol Dixon numbers would you say is the bet

DJ's did talk and I know Paul Davis and myself did introduce it.

I had both the Rainbow and Fab and I think the Fab release is the right way round (can anyone confirm)I know the Rainbow release is as I've got it now.

Rufus Lumley was played occasionally around 68 but was never that big.

Lots of tracks got credited as new discoveriesat post wheel venues that were played at the Wheel mainly because they become bigger later.

I always liked I WANT even though I thought it was I NEED SOMEONE TO LOVE ME

[Mick Howard]

No one ever introduced it at the Wheel because the D'Js never talked.

The labels are still the wrong way round on the Fab release.

Rufus Lumley was not discovered until Crewe Up the Junction.

I can't swear on my life to any of this but I'll bet you £100 I am right.

I never knew THE HOOP. I just had a listen, yeah, quite a nice tune.

Which of these 2 Errol Dixon numbers would you say is the better?

Swish

Not entirely sure which ED tunes of which you speak but I'm a 'sucker' for Give Me More Time which I had once upon a time - UK Oriole seems to come to mind.

A ska tune for sure but very much on the 'cusp' of Soul & very easy to dance Northern style to.

Mick

[Willow]

Condition Red - Baltimore & Ohio MB

The Night - Frankie Valli

Where is the love - Betty Wright

[Willow]

l suspect the mid-70's there,my friend!

Spot on 73/74 at the Casino, there were many others a lot of which had already been mentioned.

Good thread,

Cheers

Yogi

[Guest Swish]

Swish

Not entirely sure which ED tunes of which you speak but I'm a 'sucker' for Give Me More Time which I had once upon a time - UK Oriole seems to come to mind.

A ska tune for sure but very much on the 'cusp' of Soul & very easy to dance Northern style to.

Mick

Hi

Mick.

I don't know that one, must be rare on ORIOLE though.

The 2 tunes previously mentioned, well one is R&B (THE HOOP). The other is powerful Northern soul.

It was on you you tube once but I just looked and it has gone

Cheers

Swish

[Souljer6]

Hi Swish ( also Bri Phillips)

Now I can completely concur with you Swish that Rufus Lumley was discovered at the time of Up the Junction--or maybe just before but certainly after the demise of The Wheel. I recall vividly sitting in the Clarkes Arms in Hyde discussing records with my old mentor Dave Slater. He told me about it and I remember telling him about what I thought was my latest discovery---I'll Try-- Sam&Bill. He knew it, however (yawn).

We thought we knew it all, didnt we? But I've recently had some fascinating discussions with Brian and have been gobsmacked at his depth of knowledge and what actually was played at The Wheel and contemporary venues. And how sounds got played, then were forgotten and then were "discovered" anew by the a newer generation. In those days I guess that the average Wheeler was only around for 2 or 3 years before getting married and settling down to family life. Not like us "Northern Soulers" eh?

Another thing. I doubt anyone will take this seriously but Dave Slater insists that Frank Wilson was played at The New Elizabethan, Belle Vue circa 1970. How can that be right? But I can assure you Dave knows his onions and he aint no bullshitter.

Erroll Dixon on Rainbow-------Had this ever since my early prenighter days. Great record but labels definitely reversed. Everyone referred to it as I need someone to love and I always thought that that aint right. Circa 1972 I found a copy of "I dont want"on Direct on Shudehill stalls. Bought it on the strength of "I want". The other side is "The Hoop" which I dont rate at all. "I dont want", however is a great record, the official "A" side and the side which should have got the plays imo. More R&B than "I want", though. Confused?? Wish I could write effortlessly like you, my old pal.

RICH

[Guest aintgotit]

august 79 onwards, Hurt by the victors though i htought it was by eddie holman

packing up by damon fox though i thought it was eddie parker

im gone by eddie parker which i thought was eddie foster.

[Russell F]

The three for me that really stuck out were

Holly st james thats not love

jimmy mack my world is on fire

Drywell or was it elaine and the chandells i don't know one hell of a record Gypsy

Edited December 26, 2010 by russell f

[Guest martyn]

august 79 onwards, Hurt by the victors though i htought it was by eddie holman

packing up by damon fox though i thought it was eddie parker

im gone by eddie parker which i thought was eddie foster.

You are right .Hurt was an un-released track by Eddie Holman played by Richard in the later Wigan days - I prefer it to The Victors version myself

[spike1]

Yes it was 76,The records I chose were what I remember about my first trip to Station Rd,

What would have been the Big / New tunes In August / September 1976 ???

Anyone !!

Grant

[spike1]

Think I can remember 100 lbs of pain ???

Reaching for the very best exciters !?

And i know it was a oldie at the time but

Joe tex show me was massive on the big floor

[Guest ada73]

Long time ago not sure if I heard these on my first visit to The Casino,But they just come to mind really vividly,

Were they massive tunes or just ones that I liked ??

Frankie Beverly --- If That's What You Wanted

Garnet Mimms --- Looking For You

Dena Barnes --- If You Ever Walk Out Of My Life (also really liked "These Heartaches")

The Salvadors --- Stick By Me Baby

The one sound that get's me thinking about it now is The Superlatives --- "I Still Love You", Far too fast to dance to nowadays(Except in the kitchen),But back in the day !!

Grant

the salvadors and the superlatives will be in my top 10 till the day i die which with all the gear im gettin down me might not be long

Edited January 12, 2011 by ada73

[pikeys dog]

Doni Burdick - Candle.

[spike1]

These three stick in my mind from sammanthas jan 76

Summer in the parks east coast connection

Purple haze (was it johnny jones and the king casuals??)

Little old man bill Cosby

I was 16 and I'd never heard stuff like this!

I now know that these were played years before I ever went tona nighter but they sure blew me away back then

"spike"

[Guest Little Anthony]

First walked into the Casino as a 15 year old on 4th March 1978 (Saturday after an oldies night..people warned me that numbers might be down...It was about 2/3 full). On a trip organised by Denise Spittle from Willenhall Baths. Memory is a little blurred, but I particularly remember Winstanley's spot as he was on went I went in.....Lorraine Silver, Holly St James, James Coit, Teddy Vann, Phil Coulter, Billy Arnell, Bobby Paris, Levi Jackson/Solomon King etc. Undoubtedly the biggest record at the time was the Del Capris/Construction, which was obviously Searling's no. 1 play. Evison rounded the night off and remember him playing Len Barry's verion of 'I'll always need you' and Dee Dee Warwick 'Monday Monday'...as a 15 year old with limited exposure to the big tunes, it was fair to say that I spent 3.00pm 'till 7.00pm on familiar ground in Mr M's....biggest sound in there was Tony Newman's 'let the good times roll'...loved by the top dancers !

[Guest roggert]

hi again i first heard the orlons at skeggy bank holiday as my mates were being battered by ROCKERS in the mid 60si always remember as my american import trousers were made from ORLON!!!!!!as the ambulances were taking em away the next record on the jukebox was the radiants -hold on strange the crap your brain keeps for some 45 years!!!!

[Guest ronnie bagshaw]

I don't remember 1st niter but I know you & bob harris were to blame where have those 40+ years gone

[Guest roggert]

ronnie you foulbastard how are you good to see you on here ,prigmore got a mention about best all niters with the blue orchid some time ago regards

[Stevesilktulip]

First all-nighter was somewhere in Aycliffe in 1976 - I was 14 and I hated it. First time I ever heard the Flasher and the only other record I remember was I love Music. First all-dayer was in Durham the previous year and I loved it. So is the Son, Better use your Head and Pick me up ... in your pocket stick in my mind but most of what I hear at Northern nights still, I first heard that day.

[Guest ronnie bagshaw]

Hiya Roggert, tried to get in touch with you. Do you or does anyone know value of old soul mags & where I could sell .I prob, have 400+ going from late 60s to early 90s.

[Nocker]

1973.....REX GARVIN.......QUEEN OF THE GOGO

INVITATIONS....SKIING IN THE SNOW

LENIS GUESS....JUSTASK ME

Barbara Mills Queen of fools

For me as well

[SHEFFSOUL]

hmnn..i'd like to know where and which jukebox you here those on!!!....I grew up in Skeg and was a young teenager in the mid 60's...remember well the hundreds of scooters and Mods..but rockers were always in the minority. I dont remember anyone at that time having imports in skeg ..let alone on a juke box! mostly tamla motown 45's and some soul stuff , otis Redding, frankie valli, etc..

biggest sounds i can first remember were ' Ghost in my house' RDT, ' Just ask me' Lenis Guess, Skiing in the snow' Invitations...

[Guest Eastbank Bootboy]

Bisley Pavilion, 1976, John Kojak Harvey and friends.

Dana Valery, Dena Barnes, Mistura, Gil Scott Heron, Edwin Star, Al Foster, Rain, Geoff Evans,

the usual suspects I guess you could say

[Guest martyn]

Bisley Pavilion, 1976, John Kojak Harvey and friends.

Dana Valery, Dena Barnes, Mistura, Gil Scott Heron, Edwin Star, Al Foster, Rain, Geoff Evans,

the usual suspects I guess you could say

Whats the Geoff Evans tune mate ? A new one on me .

[Guest Eastbank Bootboy]

I'll be seeing you. Crap disco tune really, but back then, massive at Bisley. In fact I think it was the last tune played, for obvious reasons I guess

Edited April 6, 2011 by Eastbank Bootboy

[jam66]

bok to bach, just ask me,i've got something good,i'm standing,you don't want me no more

[Guest martyn]

I'll be seeing you. Crap disco tune really, but back then, massive at Bisley. In fact I think it was the last tune played, for obvious reasons I guess

Never heard that before . Not my cup of tea but cheers for posting

[Guest Eastbank Bootboy]

Never heard that before . Not my cup of tea but cheers for posting

Think it was one of Kojak's idiosyncracies

[Guest theoriginator56]

I do remember that Mike Vickers was played by Guy at Stafford as The Boogaloo Investigator but didn't know that it had been around that long.

Mind you, there were records played throughout the years which perhaps didn't take off initially but did following re-activation some years later - maybe On The Brink was one those - almost perfect for the rise of 'new' 60's at Stafford even though it 'aint Soul....

Mick

first heard thiis at WC. 79 80 coverd as derek and ray pharohs wallk .i did have it on a emidisk tohther side was i can see him again the twan so it could have been eerlier

[nrc]

Remember my first time at the Torch - Sam and Kitty -Ive got something good . ( every body on the floor for this one)

Eddie Parker -Love you Baby.

The Tymes- What would i do.

Also remember Soul Sam playing Otis Smith- Let her Go , for the first time only about five people bothered to dance to it until it had a few more plays.

[Mal C]

Think my first all nighter would have been a Twisted Wheel revival nighter with that Tony Clayton bloke, he was the priest right? would have been 87 I guess, quickky followed by the 100 club where I fell asleep with my head in one of the noughts !!

Sounds that I remember, Precisions, Chubby Checker, Bobby Hebb, Ersque Reeder, Jerry Fuller..most of the music I knew was from Kent Lp's and from scooter runs; would have been attending the Old Vic in Wolverhampton every month also, so Lady in Green from Ted Massey, and Verdelle Smith and Kelly Garret are stand outs played by Tony Renoylds there and at the Out Rigger in Brum..

Reminds me of the Big SKOL Sign on the Birmingham sky line, by the Rotunda... !! happy memories..

Mal.C.

[Guest roggert]

hmnn..i'd like to know where and which jukebox you here those on!!!....I grew up in Skeg and was a young teenager in the mid 60's...remember well the hundreds of scooters and Mods..but rockers were always in the minority. I dont remember anyone at that time having imports in skeg ..let alone on a juke box! mostly tamla motown 45's and some soul stuff , otis Redding, frankie valli, etc..

biggest sounds i can first remember were ' Ghost in my house' RDT, ' Just ask me' Lenis Guess, Skiing in the snow' Invitations...

hi ya orlons spinning top was a new british release an the radiants hold on was another release in the uk on the same jukebox. my mate who was with the derby mini boys an got his teeth smashed out was in the back seat when the youth from derby stalled the motor at the traffic lights outrside the ship hotel, me and several other sheffielders were camped out behind salts chippy.you might know loz from skeg who came to sheff?remember also that willie mitchell was also on the juke -first time i heard secret home -the b sideto driving beat -i bought the l.p. with all his best tracks for £1.17/6 thats his driving beat l.p. on london label i think it was , because the mojo was playing most of wigans top tunes in 65- 68 and sheffield s mojo played them as starter records till the place filled up !then the twisted wheel also had its own top english releases touch of vevet sting of brass ,mighty crowded betty everet were all available as english releases for only 3shillings an 6 pence, the only disc not available was bang bang man lil hank -it was banned by the b.b.c for lascivious lyrics !!!

Edited July 13, 2011 by roggert

[Guest 5ouldancer]

Thats my kind of music they used to play those at the Marina allnighter in Portsmouth 1969 just before we stated giong to the Torch what about willie tee walking up a one way street doris troy ill do anything or the one I always remember from the Marina Major lance The Mattador saw him later at the Torch 5ouldancer (Newbury )

[Gold Band]

Yes I was one of those annoying young kids at 14 what a naughty girl?

Jeanette Harpur - Pick Me Up And Put Me In Your Pocket (you could have done back then)

Don Thomas - Come On Train (Because its very cold waiting on the platform at the bottom of the hill)

Barnaby Bye - Can't Live This Way (Avoiding the Local Yobs who obviously hated us)

[Guest]

Love You Baby - Eddie Parker

Competition Aint Nothing - Little Carl Carlton

All Turned On - Bob Wilson

[Ernie Andrews]

Connie Clark - My sugar baby

Adventurers - Easy baby

Ton of Dynamite - Frankie Crocker

[Guest TrimmTrab]

83 first niter at the 100 Club, Stafford not long after

The big sounds were HB Barnum (George Kennedy c/u) - Hurts too much to cry

The Orlons - Envy

Nolan Chance - His way with the girls

Florence Devore - Kiss me now

Topics - Hey girl

70s and new(ish stuff I remember

Glenda McCleod - No stranger to love

Curtis Anderson - How can I tell her

Dells - Your Song

Bill Harris - Am I cold am I hot (was this c/u as Bill Withers???)

Nicky Newarkers - Woman