Guest xraysoulstar Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Hi folks, I'm looking for some good reading material. I read Peter Guralnik's Southern Soul Story a few years back and Gerri Hirshey's Nowhere to Run and I'm looking for material in a similar vein. I recently read Reg Sticking's book and had previously read David Nowell's Too Darn Soulful and Pete McKenna's Nightshift, and whilst I really enjoyed them I'm really looking for books about the artists and labels rather than the recollections of people on the Soul scene. Biographical recommendations also welcome. Many thanks! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Hi folks, I'm looking for some good reading material. I read Peter Guralnik's Southern Soul Story a few years back and Gerri Hirshey's Nowhere to Run and I'm looking for material in a similar vein. I recently read Reg Sticking's book and had previously read David Nowell's Too Darn Soulful and Pete McKenna's Nightshift, and whilst I really enjoyed them I'm really looking for books about the artists and labels rather than the recollections of people on the Soul scene. Biographical recommendations also welcome. Many thanks! have you tried robert pruter's "chicago soul" it's been out years but is great, also lonely teardrops,,,the jackie wilson story and the updated temptations story by otis williams . all compelling reading. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Aret Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I have"nt read this but it looks interesting https://books.google.com/books?id=f92pJ3JhaJYC&pg=PR13&dq=dick+biondi&lr=&cd=87#v=onepage&q=dick%20biondi&f=false thanks Aret Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grantdyche Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Have a peep on here https://astore.amazon.co.uk/nsbooks-21 Or for a quick read https://www.tommyhunt.co.uk/biog.htm https://www.lorrainesilver.com/ https://www.madelinebell.com/biography.html Should keep you busy for an hour or two Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfinger Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Jim's right about Chicago Soul - it's the Bible. Others not already mentioned that I rate are: The Soul Book - Ian Hoare, Clive Anderson, Tony Cummings & Simon Frith (Methuen 1975) is worth searching out. Let's Hear it One More Time for the Brokenhearted - Barney Hoskins(Fontana 1987) - is good if you are not strictly uptempo! Where Did Our Love Go - Nelson George (Omnibus 1986) - is a good warts 'n' all Motown tale. Calling Out Around the World A Motown Reader - Kingsley Abbot (Ed) ( Bath Press 2001) gives a variety of personal perspectives on Motown. Guitars, Bars & Motown Superstars - Dennis Coffey (Bee Cool 2002) : One man's Motown story only blighted by his (understandable) obsession with Scorpio - which I have never been able to get on with. I no longer feel able to recommend Charlie Gillet - The Sound of the City - not because you have to trawl through all the rock 'n' roll stuff but because the print in my copy appeared to have shrunk when I tried to re-read it recently. Of more recent stuff I liked Ginger's book written by / with Rob McKeever - On the Right Track which is probably still all over ebay, Reg's very personal passage through Soul and Neil Rushton's glossy opus. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I would recommend all of these- 1) "Groovesville U.S.A. - The Detroit Soul And R & B Index" - Keith Rylatt- everything you wanted to know about non- Motown Detroit and then some 2) "Tamla Motown- The Stories Behind the U.K. Singles" by Terry Wilson- very detailed info on 1965- 1976 releases. 3) "The Supremes" by Mark Ribowsky- good info and stories about other Motown acts weaved in the story line. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Myers Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Berry Gordy's (autobiography) To be loved is essential reading. Quite a bit about the early years of Motown. Just come back from holiday and took with me Peter Guralnick's - Dream Boogie the triumph of Sam Cooke a bit hard going in some of its 740 pages but a fascinating insight in to the roots of soul music, as well as the man himself, thourougly recommended ! Sound of the city is still a must and will provide you with info about labels and key personel and explains the regional developments of the early years of rock n roll and rhythm & blues as well as Soul. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest xraysoulstar Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Cheers Guys. I'll have a look and try and dig some of those out. I just finished reading the Real Rhythm & Blues by Hugh Gregory. For length, this should have been a simple task at 212 pages, 5 days a week tops. I really hated it though and it took a month, often going days without picking it up. Some interesting stuff in it in the last 3rd, but really, not a good book in my opinion. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 It came from Memphis - Robert Gordon Boogaloo - Arthur Kempton Making tracks - Charlie Gillett Burn, Baby! Burn! - Magnificent Montague Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 if you can find a copy, CENTRAL 1179, the story of the twisted wheel in manchester,apparently its a wee cracker been after a copy for a few years now, hint hint , incidently, could anybody tell me why its called central 1179....phil Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The Phyliss Hyman biography is a good read. When I get on the PC I'll throw a couple of links up for some others. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stuart Russell Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 if you can find a copy, CENTRAL 1179, the story of the twisted wheel in manchester,apparently its a wee cracker been after a copy for a few years now, hint hint , incidently, could anybody tell me why its called central 1179....phil It was the telephone number for the Twisted Wheel. When we published it we wanted a title that was a bit more intriguing than The Twisted Wheel Story. Perhaps it was a bit too smart arsed! Stuart Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kim Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Motown: The View from the Bottom by Jack Ashford try this it's really good Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 It was the telephone number for the Twisted Wheel. When we published it we wanted a title that was a bit more intriguing than The Twisted Wheel Story. Perhaps it was a bit too smart arsed! Stuart thought it might be something like that, its become a bit of a collectors item now, are there any plans to reprint it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Myers Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 thought it might be something like that, its become a bit of a collectors item now, are there any plans to reprint it? Copy for sale here, I knew is was collectable but, £120.00 !!!!!!!!!!! https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1410901562&searchurl=bt.x%3D57%26bt.y%3D7% Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Copy for sale here, I knew is was collectable but, £120.00 !!!!!!!!!!! https://www.abebooks....D57%26bt.y%3D7% and this one on evilbay central1179 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stuart Russell Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 thought it might be something like that, its become a bit of a collectors item now, are there any plans to reprint it? There are no plans to reprint it at the moment. The prices on the net are crazy though. I should have kept a few copies... Stuart Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Berry Gordy's (autobiography) To be loved is essential reading. Quite a bit about the early years of Motown. Just come back from holiday and took with me Peter Guralnick's - Dream Boogie the triumph of Sam Cooke a bit hard going in some of its 740 pages but a fascinating insight in to the roots of soul music, as well as the man himself, thourougly recommended ! Sound of the city is still a must and will provide you with info about labels and key personel and explains the regional developments of the early years of rock n roll and rhythm & blues as well as Soul. Berrys book for sure and you must get Mr Rylets Detroit book its blooming brill Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) Wasn't there a book about the popularity of NS? I think it was called something like 'The Northern Soul Top 500'. Might be worth a read. Edited September 13, 2010 by The Golden 101 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Wasn't there a book about the popularity of NS? I think it was called something like 'The Northern Soul Top 500'. Might be worth a read. And its' sibling , the " remixed " NST500 " When can we look forward to your autobiography , Kev ? Malc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 are there any books about esther phillips, now there's a story Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davemac3 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Soulsville USA - Rob Bowman is good if you like Stax Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 And its' sibling , the " remixed " NST500 " When can we look forward to your autobiography , Kev ? Malc Written it 3 times over. Give me another couple of years. Lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MBarrett Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I knew is was collectable but, £120.00 !!!!!!!!!!! Couldn't afford these crazy prices - so borrowed one through the local library. You can always photocopy the "important" bits. MB Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 my daughter has just ordered ..guitars bars and motown superstars for my birthday later this month..£15 via amazon...can't wait. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Deadwaxdetective Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Soulsville USA - Rob Bowman is good if you like Stax A copy here if you're intersted.A top read. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Deadwaxdetective Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 And also issue 1 Blues and Soul magazine but i guess that woul be too much dosh!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 my daughter has just ordered ..guitars bars and motown superstars for my birthday later this month..£15 via amazon...can't wait. You will find the book an excellent read Jim . Check out Jack Ashford's " Motown : The view From The Bottom " as well . Malc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 You will find the book an excellent read Jim . Check out Jack Ashford's " Motown : The view From The Bottom " as well . Malc Considering what he had done and achieved in the business I was some what disappointed with Jack Ashfords book. For a start I was expecting a book with at least twice as many pages. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Two interesting ones.... The Record Men: Chess Records and the Birth of Rock and Roll https://www.amazon.co.uk/Record-Men-Chess-Records-Birth/dp/1861977662/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283085450&sr=1-1 Record Makers and Breakers: Voices of the Independent Rock 'n' Roll Pioneers (Music in American Life) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Record-Makers-Breakers-Independent-Pioneers/dp/025207727X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283085344&sr=8-3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest aintgotit Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Hi folks, I'm looking for some good reading material. I read Peter Guralnik's Southern Soul Story a few years back and Gerri Hirshey's Nowhere to Run and I'm looking for material in a similar vein. I recently read Reg Sticking's book and had previously read David Nowell's Too Darn Soulful and Pete McKenna's Nightshift, and whilst I really enjoyed them I'm really looking for books about the artists and labels rather than the recollections of people on the Soul scene. Biographical recommendations also welcome. Many thanks! imnot exactly melvin bragg when it comes to book reviews but i really enjoyed bobby womacks autobiography, its a warts and all tail and he comes across as quite a selfish and insecure character at times,but it makes a cracking read, i gave mine to a mate after reading it, so i cant give you the title unfortunately but id recommend it ,in fact i just have , i think. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 and this one on evilbay central1179 Interesting why a reasonably hard to find and much sought after book causes shock horror at £99.00 when much more common records sell for well above that and don't even raise an eyebrow. As a bookseller now I know why I'm struggling Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Bobby Womack book is Midnight Lover. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I have"nt read this but it looks interesting https://books.google....0biondi&f=false thanks Aret Aret, yeah that looks interesting and certainly one I'd like to read. The history of black radio up until 1975 is something I've been meaning to really get into. Another of the same vein https://www.amazon.co.uk/Legendary-Pioneers-Black-Gilbert-Williams/dp/0313360588/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1284450894&sr=1-5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jules Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Ive got nice copies of sharon davis - motown the history and the motown album- foreward by berry gordy, essay by elvis mitchel, are they worth much? both in ex con. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest turntableterra Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 the berry gordy book is pretty good, but for me not so much a read as a reference book, packed so full of info i have postits on every other page. raynomas book "berry motown and me" feels to me a lot more of a real motown read, its got her life story but its more of a story than a reference book. great.........AND BIG WRITIN TOO. LOL if you like doccos or bios, my wife picked up an interesting book for me "deconstructing sammy davies junior" this is a must read and could be about any black artist growing up in the 40s 50s 60s etc. i think it must typify what happened to a lot of the guys but on a different scale, i only got it on saturday and im half way thru it. also checkout sammy davies at 6 years old on you tube,mmmmmmmmmmm Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) If youre interested in the seedier side of the industry and particularly bootlegging you could do worse than buy Clinton Heylins book . The secret history of the other recording industry. The Sound of Philadephia isnt bad by Tony Cummings but long deleted.Manship has one for £30.Another one i have is a Black Music annual published by Hamlyn...some great photos but again long deleted. Edited September 14, 2010 by wiggyflat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfinger Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) I had a look on my bookshelf to see if there were any there I had forgotten about and found an interesting one from 1969: "The Soul Book" An A4 - ish sized soft back from The Soultown Press, Chicago, Illinois; Editor Gary D Friedman. It's a kind of A-Z thing with big pictures and some basic text. What's weird about it is that it includes, amongst the obvious Jackie Wilson, James Brown etc, sections on Jose Feliciano, Blood Sweat & Tears, Elvis and Bob Dylan . You couldn't make it up Edited September 14, 2010 by Soulfinger Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MBarrett Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) What's weird about it is that it includes, amongst the obvious Jackie Wilson, James Brown etc, sections on Jose Feliciano, Blood Sweat & Tears, Elvis and Bob Dylan . You couldn't make it up I know it doesn't make him a soul singer but Elvis definitely laid down some tracks at the Stax studios. MB Edited September 14, 2010 by MBarrett Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Wasn't there a book about the popularity of NS? I think it was called something like 'The Northern Soul Top 500'. Might be worth a read. Theres nothing like self praise,thou i say it myself Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Gilly- Tongue in Cheek I know, but it sold 13,000 copies. And even though I say it myself, it's a good starter book for lesser knowledgeable fans wanting the facts behind the scenes most popular songs. It's certainly not for the hard core but extremely popular worldwide and currently unavailable! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Rimmer Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Reviews of approximately 40 books here Soulfulkindamusic.net Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest unklbrian Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 How about this one - Nelson George , The death of rhythm & blues . originally read it about 20 years ago , and from memory a good read https://www.amazon.co.uk/Death-Rhythm-Blues-Nelson-George/dp/0142004081/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1284494820&sr=1-4 or if you're interested in the history of Jamacian sound systems [ ok , its not soul , but a fascinating subject] - Lloyd Bradley . Bass Culture https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bass-Culture-When-Reggae-King/dp/0140237631/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1284495488&sr=1-1 If i can find an old girlfriend - i want my copies back !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 You will find the book an excellent read Jim . Check out Jack Ashford's " Motown : The view From The Bottom " as well . Malc thanks malc, already have the jack ashford book,and really enjoyed it. i didn't realize he was the same guy with pied piper productions. atb jim. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Moss Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Motown: The View from the Bottom by Jack Ashford try this it's really good No it isn't. It's poorly written, pathetically researched, inaccurate and dull. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 No it isn't. It's poorly written, pathetically researched, inaccurate and dull. one mans meat and all rob, innacurate how?. if he was there doing it and seeing it, he must be believed!!. atb jim, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Moss Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 It's been a while since I read it (gave it away) but I do remember years were wrong, there were a ton of spelling mistakes, including Harthon would you believe, and much more that his ex partner Mike Terry told me were inaccurate or untrue! I guess everyone's version of history is different. I think Jack depended on his memory without checking facts, dates etc.,which is always tricky. I remember offering to assist with editing to the UK publisher (can't remember his name but based in London I think) but being turned down. The book is a major disappointment because it could, and should, have been so much better. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Interesting why a reasonably hard to find and much sought after book causes shock horror at £99.00 when much more common records sell for well above that and don't even raise an eyebrow. As a bookseller now I know why I'm struggling you make a good point there, I never thought of it like that.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spacehopper Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 while it is a 'recollections' book northern soul stories is a great read especially the finding vinyl stories..highly recommended great pics too dean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest xraysoulstar Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Gilly- Tongue in Cheek I know, but it sold 13,000 copies. And even though I say it myself, it's a good starter book for lesser knowledgeable fans wanting the facts behind the scenes most popular songs. It's certainly not for the hard core but extremely popular worldwide and currently unavailable! LOL, I had (perhaps wrongly ) assumed that knowledge of this book was a prerequiste for membership on Soul Source! I remember seeing copies of it in (I think) the Helter Skelter book shop in Denmark Street some years back. I'm not a fan of "list" type programming (Top 100 Comedians/Soaps/Ads/records of all time etc.) and so as I book the concept did kinda pass me by at the time. I tend to find them very subjective although I am aware that the book was supposed to be based on the views of people attending alnighters. Am I remembering that correctly? Yes I'm kicking myself now as I recognise the value the content would probably have had to me now. and I don't mean in resale value. Anyway, thanks again for all of the suggestions. I have a fat little list to stick in my phone to carry around book shops/record fairs etc. Very much appreciated!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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