The Term "youth Club Records"

[BrianB]

I ofter hear the term Youth Club Record on SS.

Someone yesterday said the Love On a Mountain Top was one. Also heard Bobby Hebb LLL classed as one recently.

To me, these were great records at the time, played at the Catacombs and the Torch. I didn't hear them ever in a youth club, but in the venues of the day.

Is there an age thing at play here or is it lack of knowledge from some as to what was played where? I presume the Youth Club title means it was re-released and anyone could get it, therefore played at YCs by youngsters who were then on the fringe?

I am not trying to have a dig, I am genuinely interested in the viewpoint of those who are maybe 45 to 50, as opposed to us mid fifties relics who remember them being played prior to being re-released.

ATB

Brian

[Guest Matt Male]

I think it is an age thing. One person's youth club sounds are another's classic oldies in my opinion. It depends what was being played when you attended youth clubs i expect.

I used to go to school discos and local discos aged 12 - 14 and around that time DJs in Nuneaton were bringing back and playing certain sounds from various northern venues around the country, notably Wigan. In Nuneaton Dave Hall played stuff like If You Loved Me, On A Magic Carpet Ride, Nine Times Out Of Ten, Coloured Man, The Champion, The Snake etc... School discos and working men's club discos were where i first heard these sounds so i suppose they are my 'youth club sounds'.

I don't think it's a derogatory term btw, but a nostalgic term.

[Guest Brian Ellis]

I started DJing at my local YC in 1968/9 playing things (from memory!!) like

The Invitations - What's Wrong With Me Baby',

The Incredibles - 'There's Nothing Else to Say',

The Virginia Wolves 'Stay',

Bobby Sheen 'Dr Love',

Mary Wells 'What's Easy for Two.....',

The Formations 'At The Top of The Stairs',

JJ Barnes 'Real Humdinger',

Gene Chandler & Barbara Acklin 'From the Teacher to the Preacher'

Tami Lynn 'I'm Gonna Run Away from You'

The Sapphires 'Got To Have Your Love' etc.

To me YC records are these.

Brian

[KevH]

Simple.For me a Youth Club record was one i heard at my local YC ,Shades ,while still at school,and before i entered the wide world of NS (as it became known as).Records played by the older guys who were already out there.

Edited August 30, 2010 by KevH

[macca]

I was 13 when I first heard (and was told that it was) 'NS' at my YC in 1973. Things like Landslide, Love On A Mountain Top, and Bok to Bach, plus lots of Motown like This Old Heart Of Mine. I was a year away from my first all-nighter (at the same YC!) and prior to attending that, the summer of 74 was crucial in my conversion, with records like The Joker, Furys I'm Satisfied With You, The Poppies He's Got Real Love, Faye Ross 'Faith Hope Trust', Al Kent 'You Gotta Pay The Price, Sam & Kitty etc - those were records I associate with the YC 'cos when I did attend my first all-nighter, with John Manship guesting, I obviously knew very few of the records played, and what an education it was! Brave new world!!

p.s. So yeah, like Kev and Matt say, an age thing probably...

Edited August 30, 2010 by macca

[Guest]

Your right it is an age thing BUT ages differ so YC sounds could be anything!

Mine were "This Is Soul" album "Wildest Organ in Town" Billy Preston

Miracles "In The Beginning" "Otis Live In Europe" etc etc etc so my YC daze were when?

Sometimes these "new/hip/trendy" sayings just get used to let others know that "I know whats what"

[Guest Matt Male]

Mine were "This Is Soul" album "Wildest Organ in Town" Billy Preston

Miracles "In The Beginning" "Otis Live In Europe" etc etc etc so my YC daze were when?

1966 - 1968?

Edited August 30, 2010 by Matt Male

[Dean]

I think there's a NS geography thing here. As Kev H mentioned above the youth club sounds were played to a younger crowd by older guys (always male at the time) who we looked up to for having a few records. In the early 70s NS was mainstream around Nottingham with many youth club dj sets including a representation at least. Mine was Blidworth Miners welfare youth club, Nick Ackerman (still does weddings I think) had a Reparata 'Panic' on Mala to play along with Bob Wilson Strings-a-Go Go and other Soul Galore and 70s current soul issues and re-issues. As mentione dabove, youth club sound will refer to whatever the dj had in his box . . . . . . . . and played week-in week-out to very eager ears.

[Cheltsoulnights]

I think it is an age thing. One person's youth club sounds are another's classic oldies in my opinion. It depends what was being played when you attended youth clubs i expect.

I used to go to school discos and local discos aged 12 - 14 and around that time DJs in Nuneaton were bringing back and playing certain sounds from various northern venues around the country, notably Wigan. In Nuneaton Dave Hall played stuff like If You Loved Me, On A Magic Carpet Ride, Nine Times Out Of Ten, Coloured Man, The Champion, The Snake etc... School discos and working men's club discos were where i first heard these sounds so i suppose they are my 'youth club sounds'.

I don't think it's a derogatory term btw, but a nostalgic term.

Same here. As most people at that age didn't have a lot of dosh that is why 50p records (at the time) ruled in the youth clubs

[Citizen P]

Guess it depends on which Wave you rode in on,

but definitely a term of affection.

My youthclub tunes include

I'm Gonna Run Away from you

Girls are Out To Ger you

At The Top Of The Stairs

Breakout

You're Ready Now

Freedom Train

Tons of Motown

In fact the very stuff hat made you want to seek out more

Tony

[BrianB]

I started DJing at my local YC in 1968/9 playing things (from memory!!) like

The Invitations - What's Wrong With Me Baby',

The Incredibles - 'There's Nothing Else to Say',

The Virginia Wolves 'Stay',

Bobby Sheen 'Dr Love',

Mary Wells 'What's Easy for Two.....',

The Formations 'At The Top of The Stairs',

JJ Barnes 'Real Humdinger',

Gene Chandler & Barbara Acklin 'From the Teacher to the Preacher'

Tami Lynn 'I'm Gonna Run Away from You'

The Sapphires 'Got To Have Your Love' etc.

To me YC records are these.

Brian

Hi Brian,

Thats exactly what I started out listening to, plus the Mitch Ryder stuff, Quitter Never Wins, the Major Lance/Jackie Wilson stuff, but I heard them at the Mecca in Burnley on Sunday nights. Probably the guys from the Wheel brought them, or the DJ, Mick the Fed had them, but the thing is, we didn't have them as they had not been re-released and we were hearing them for the first time knowing nothing at all about rarity/imports etc.

Also we heard the Ric Tic stuff and were exposed to the Soul Sounds boots!

[Guest in town Mikey]

Same here. As most people at that age didn't have a lot of dosh that is why 50p records (at the time) ruled in the youth clubs

TheYC near Dursley, I used to go to, had a lad who I often saw in the record shop next to Gloucester bus station, buying as you say 50p records.

We had things like

Interplay/God Knows

Romeo & Juliette

Personally

And had to also make great use of

Red Light Spells Danger

Third Finger Left Hand

Band Of Gold

Rescue Me.

And we did with gusto.

[Anoraks Corner]

TheYC near Dursley, I used to go to, had a lad who I often saw in the record shop next to Gloucester bus station, buying as you say 50p records.

I remember the Gloucester Music & Disco center as well! My local YC was in Longlevens, Gloucester...talking '76/'77 and the 'big lads and lasses' made us young ones leave the dancefloor so they could shake their things to the following before disappearing off to some club up North that started at midnight (soooooo mysterious and intersting to a young would be anorak!):

Interplay

Like Adam & Eve

We got together

At the top of the stairs

...and later still at Cinderellas (remember that one, Mikey?!) in '81:

You're ready now

Loving is really my game

Like her

This is the house (PattiB)

Love on a mountain top

...and then there was a night when I took along Dena Barnes and the Majestics (OVO of course!)

[Guest Brian Ellis]

Hi Brian,

Thats exactly what I started out listening to, plus the Mitch Ryder stuff, Quitter Never Wins, the Major Lance/Jackie Wilson stuff, but I heard them at the Mecca in Burnley on Sunday nights. Probably the guys from the Wheel brought them, or the DJ, Mick the Fed had them, but the thing is, we didn't have them as they had not been re-released and we were hearing them for the first time knowing nothing at all about rarity/imports etc.

Also we heard the Ric Tic stuff and were exposed to the Soul Sounds boots!

At the time it wasn't really cool to play UK releases, everyone wanted to see US imports on the turntables. The giveaway sign of a UK release (not that many kids knew which labels were UK and which were US) was the small spindle hole in the record's centre.

So to make everything look like an import we used to 'pop' the centres out of the UK releases.

Just from the list I posted above, I had 'popped' - The Invitations, The Incredibles, The Virginia Wolves - all on UK Stateside as well as the Tami Lynn on Black Atlantic .

Some £££ damage done there!

Brian

[Guest in town Mikey]

I remember the Gloucester Music & Disco center as well! My local YC was in Longlevens, Gloucester...talking '76/'77 and the 'big lads and lasses' made us young ones leave the dancefloor so they could shake their things to the following before disappearing off to some club up North that started at midnight (soooooo mysterious and intersting to a young would be anorak!):

Interplay

Like Adam & Eve

We got together

At the top of the stairs

...and later still at Cinderellas (remember that one, Mikey?!) in '81:

You're ready now

Loving is really my game

Like her

This is the house (PattiB)

Love on a mountain top

...and then there was a night when I took along Dena Barnes and the Majestics (OVO of course!)

Did Cinderellas have the sunken dancefloor? Near the leisure centre?

You're ready now. Yes, another one we used to get.

One guy once brought along Paris Blues. It may have been Dave Thorley's brother. But the Cam YC crowd werent really up for such oddball tunes and apart from 2 of us, the record bombed

[Anoraks Corner]

Did Cinderellas have the sunken dancefloor? Near the leisure centre?

That's the one...changed name a few times...I'm sure Hippo will recall as he probably DJ'ed there in some capacity over the years!?

[Anoraks Corner]

So to make everything look like an import we used to 'pop' the centres out of the UK releases.

Oddly enough the industry term for doing this is/was to 'dink' a disc!

I recall when I worked for HMV there was an old cast iron 'dinker' machine...kinda looked like a big stapler and was very simple to use...you placed the disc in it, lined it up and then thumped down on the top of the dinker to knock the middle out. ANyone got a picture of one?

[Davetay]

Oddly enough the industry term for doing this is/was to 'dink' a disc!

I recall when I worked for HMV there was an old cast iron 'dinker' machine...kinda looked like a big stapler and was very simple to use...you placed the disc in it, lined it up and then thumped down on the top of the dinker to knock the middle out. ANyone got a picture of one?

Our local record shop had a dinker machine, I had all my new records done back than.

It seens a really cool thing to do at the time circa 1971-1973.

Dave.

[Guest Netspeaky]

YC term means the period 1967-1970 to me, when the older guys were spinning the club records of the day, remember the mass importation of US 45's hadn't happened so most of the 45's played around this period were on UK released 45's. The likes of the Tams, Robert Knight, Frankie Valli, Formation etc went into the charts of the back of this YC scene when the were re-issued because we couldn't wait to get are hands on them.

[Guest JIM BARRY]

my youth club records circa 70 71

your ready now....6x6.....wetdream...at the top of the stairs...band of gold...ressurection shuffle..double barrel....hey girl dont bother me. young gifted and black.

[Mike]

laughing here

our youth club had a team of 3 djs who did it 4 nights a week

they were working and took it all seriously

all 3 of em bought latest chart, club sounds and easily available northern

would say they had it off to a tee

when they packed it in

somehow i ended up doing it

no dosh as the dole was in

couple of boxes of northern with a distinct 70s touch

think i lasted a month .... which all things considered wasn't that bad

[Codfromderby]

for those from the chadd/ breadsall areas of derby the youth club sounds for us from 73-76 were as follows

war- me and baby brother

james brown-sex machine

kool+gang-jungle boogie

sam the sham-woolie bully

lunar funk-mr penguin

gwen and ray-build your house

new york city -reach out

frankie valli-your ready now

elgins -heaven etc

playgrounds-this old man (what was this all about ?)

barbara acklin- love makes a woman

oh to wear those 28 waist jeans again with my long leather coat (that for some reason i never took off even when i danced)

[Guest]

I ofter hear the term Youth Club Record on SS.

Someone yesterday said the Love On a Mountain Top was one. Also heard Bobby Hebb LLL classed as one recently.

To me, these were great records at the time, played at the Catacombs and the Torch. I didn't hear them ever in a youth club, but in the venues of the day.

Is there an age thing at play here or is it lack of knowledge from some as to what was played where? I presume the Youth Club title means it was re-released and anyone could get it, therefore played at YCs by youngsters who were then on the fringe?

I am not trying to have a dig, I am genuinely interested in the viewpoint of those who are maybe 45 to 50, as opposed to us mid fifties relics who remember them being played prior to being re-released.

ATB

Brian

Well I am still in my 30s and the youth club records I remember were by Madness and The Jam

King Kurt or the Clash

Youth clubs were violent and crap !

you old buggers were spoilt !

Edited August 31, 2010 by mossy

[Guest JIM BARRY]

a couple more youth club biggies.....jimmy james...a man like me.

martha and vandellas.....jimmy mack..and he b side third finger left hand....harlem shuffle...chubby checker..at the discoteque.

[Guest]

Well I am still in my 30s and the youth club records I remember were by Madness and The Jam

King Kurt or the Clash

Youth clubs were violent and crap !

you old buggers were spoilt !

Thank God we were - and still are

[Sjclement]

I ofter hear the term Youth Club Record on SS.

Someone yesterday said the Love On a Mountain Top was one. Also heard Bobby Hebb LLL classed as one recently.

To me, these were great records at the time, played at the Catacombs and the Torch. I didn't hear them ever in a youth club, but in the venues of the day.

Is there an age thing at play here or is it lack of knowledge from some as to what was played where? I presume the Youth Club title means it was re-released and anyone could get it, therefore played at YCs by youngsters who were then on the fringe?

I am not trying to have a dig, I am genuinely interested in the viewpoint of those who are maybe 45 to 50, as opposed to us mid fifties relics who remember them being played prior to being re-released.

ATB

Brian

Lucky enough to have a mobile disco crew who were "in the know" so we followed them most places in the late 60s early 70s

Tunes that spring to mind are

Rescue Me

Higher and Higher

123

Unsatisfied (that on original London!)

and loads of Motown

Happy Days

[Jerry Hipkiss]

That's the one...changed name a few times...I'm sure Hippo will recall as he probably DJ'ed there in some capacity over the years!?

Yes, variously playing disco/funk, pop, and even NS (at different times...)...remember Pep putting a dayer on about 91-ish as well. It was a Tiffanys, Cindarellas, and various other names over the years!

BTW my youth club spinning days were 69-71, Frankie Valli, Formations, Jerry-O, Jamo Thomas, loadsa Motown, and plenty of people who are still around on the scene today!

[nrc]

I ofter hear the term Youth Club Record on SS.

Someone yesterday said the Love On a Mountain Top was one. Also heard Bobby Hebb LLL classed as one recently.

To me, these were great records at the time, played at the Catacombs and the Torch. I didn't hear them ever in a youth club, but in the venues of the day.

Is there an age thing at play here or is it lack of knowledge from some as to what was played where? I presume the Youth Club title means it was re-released and anyone could get it, therefore played at YCs by youngsters who were then on the fringe?

I am not trying to have a dig, I am genuinely interested in the viewpoint of those who are maybe 45 to 50, as opposed to us mid fifties relics who remember them being played prior to being re-released.

ATB

Brian

It all depends on when you either went to, or played records at a youth club.If like you went when the Casino was going ,you maybe would have heard some cuts from there .As for myself when i used to go to youth clubs it was the time of the Wheel so sometimes you would hear tracks from there. The only thing that still amazes me though is that the same records were being played in youth clubs in Bury ,Rochdale,,Burnley Bolton etc

by young kids who hadn't been to the Wheel either.

[Guest Andy Kempster]

Well I am still in my 30s and the youth club records I remember were by Madness and The Jam

King Kurt or the Clash

Youth clubs were violent and crap !

you old buggers were spoilt !

think we must have gone to the same youth club LOL

[Koolkat]

Boogaloo party..........Queen of fools.........You get your kicks.........I spy for the FBI.

These were all youth club sounds for me.

It definately was an age thing. You had to start somewhere.

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

youth club is more to do with the songs played in youth clubs a lot of the songs being popular Northern soul tracks many which charted. when i went to clubs as a kid well when i was like 11 it was all stuff from late 80's and remember hearing Bros. Michael Jackson, Yazz etc