Corbett80 Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 I guess thats an auction for you though....fair play to the buyer if he / she can afford to throw that at a title they want. Just surprised as i didn't expect it to achieve quite that much. Crazy world of northern soul etc etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Out of interest, what is the going rate for an original gold label copy of Bobby's Fania LP featuring 'Use it...'? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Out of interest, what is the going rate for an original gold label copy of Bobby's Fania LP featuring 'Use it...'? The LP is very sought after too .... as is the Bad Breath LP ... with soul collectors and also funk and mod/jazz/latin guys ... you'll do well to get good copies on ebay for less than $250-300 US Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I'm still waiting for the apologies from all those diehards who slagged me for playing Boogaloo down the 100 Club in the 80s, Harvey Averne, Hector Rivera, Bad Breath etc. What price Johnny Colon now? Just the 25 years ahead of our time then, Martin Peters eat your heart out! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 What price Johnny Colon now? Which one? "You Gotta Love Me"? That's a bloody rare 45. Hardly ever turns up. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Yeah that was from that era down the 100 Club. A Cotique label collector reckoned it never came out on a 45 but that's what I played it from Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Yeah that was from that era down the 100 Club. A Cotique label collector reckoned it never came out on a 45 but that's what I played it from Same here! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 But did you cover it up and call it Fred Knoblock or something equally witty! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dimples Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Johnny Colon "You gotta love me" is a top Latin 45 that hardly ever turns up (a truly RARE record) but when it does, surprisingly doesn't reach very high prices (40 UKP in excess). Same with "Bad breath" (around 100 UKP). Collectors are only after "Use it before you lose it" and in the last times "Geronimo". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 The LP is very sought after too .... as is the Bad Breath LP ... with soul collectors and also funk and mod/jazz/latin guys ... you'll do well to get good copies on ebay for less than $250-300 US Must admit I have both of those on gold label first presses...along with loadsa other Boogaloo LPs on Cotique, Allegre etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Tempest Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 This is currently listed on Ebay , seller in Venezuala , buy it now for £38.00, BEWARE ......... BOBBY VALENTIN LET'S TURN ON... SALSA BOOG LP VENEZUELA The sale shows the ORIGINAL sleeve BUT up until the other day , shows a DIFFERENT album record ,I emailed the seller and pointed out the problem , he replied saying he did'nt have the album and then removed the record pics ...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 i've put in a folder some of mine more interesting add in latin vibes during this year...hope can be useful https://www.divshare.com/download/12327263-d27 i've don't put Joey pastrana let's ball probably is quite known or bobby valentine geronimo added few month back on his first issue on palacio and other well known latin track... let me know! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 i've put in a folder some of mine more interesting add in latin vibes during this year...hope can be useful https://www.divshare....ad/12327263-d27 i've don't put Joey pastrana let's ball probably is quite known or bobby valentine geronimo added few month back on his first issue on palacio and other well known latin track... let me know! Whats up with just posting em' up in refo-soul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 This is currently listed on Ebay , seller in Venezuala , buy it now for £38.00, BEWARE ......... BOBBY VALENTIN LET'S TURN ON... SALSA BOOG LP VENEZUELA The sale shows the ORIGINAL sleeve BUT up until the other day , shows a DIFFERENT album record ,I emailed the seller and pointed out the problem , he replied saying he did'nt have the album and then removed the record pics ...... The Venezuelan LP has a different label from the USA gold original - it has the palm tree type Fania label and was distibuted by Palacio this was realeased in the mid 1970s - and is not an easy one to get either. but it is still a Venezuela original IMO The "young man with a horn" LP came out at the same time on the same Fania palm tree label - someones got that for sale for 350 dollars on e bay. I preferer the gold and the clouds label s, but I certainly dont have a problem with the south american issues either. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Tempest Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 The Venezuelan LP has a different label from the USA gold original - it has the palm tree type Fania label and was distibuted by Palacio this was realeased in the mid 1970s - and is not an easy one to get either. but it is still a Venezuela original IMO The "young man with a horn" LP came out at the same time on the same Fania palm tree label - someones got that for sale for 350 dollars on e bay. I preferer the gold and the clouds label s, but I certainly dont have a problem with the south american issues either. That WAS the record shown with the " Lets Turn On " cover Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 i need a tutorial to put all my track on refosoul...you're right ken mine copy of young man with a horn best in boogaloo have the same cover of the fania usa press and a red cover on the vinyl no palm yea mossy you're right...palacio usually press later (also some years later) all the fania issue for the south american market with the same cover on the vinyl...but for that lp the first pressed was on palacio the fania press for the usa market was made later Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Boogaloo Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Well, I for one am pleeeeezed that Bobby has hit that price as it puts Latin Soul/Boogaloo back in the limelight. Funny thing is I had it in my sales box a couple of months ago for a lot less than was sold on John's auction and was told that "I'd never pay that for a record I could have bought for £20 20 years ago". How we laughed. There's still some cracking Latin bubbling around at great prices if you can find 'em. Here's a few to consider and I reckon any of these could be as big as Bobby or Hector: Pepe Fernandez - Having Fun Ray Barretto - New York Soul Orchestra Harlow - El Exigente Ray Medina - Head´s Head (not cheap but you can't leave it out) Freddie and Henchie - Biscuits and Buttermilk Afro Blues Quintet - La la la la la Johnny Zamot - I got that feeling Ray Rodriquez - Oh, that's nice Gran Combo - Gran Combo's Boogaloo Widfredo Figuera - Monkey see Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 pepe fernandez is in my box too real ace track also ray rodriguez and other few...download my link warren there are few that make you crazy trust me! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 oh sorry is not pete rodriguez on alegre? or is an other version? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Wigley Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Where did I put that 50 box of Latin 45s after I last played them at the Saltergate ?? Use it before you lose it ! Kin 'ell £950 Rob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 Ray Medina is one of the better ones.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) sincerly for me is the worst ...but the taste is taste... Edited September 2, 2010 by Alfie79 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Johnny Zamot - I got that feeling How many of these are out there? Had mine for years and never seen one for sale since i got it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dean Rudland Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 i need a tutorial to put all my track on refosoul...you're right ken mine copy of young man with a horn best in boogaloo have the same cover of the fania usa press and a red cover on the vinyl no palm yea mossy you're right...palacio usually press later (also some years later) all the fania issue for the south american market with the same cover on the vinyl...but for that lp the first pressed was on palacio the fania press for the usa market was made later Where did you get this info Alfie? It was recorded in New York and released on Fania first wasn't it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) But did you cover it up and call it Fred Knoblock or something equally witty! Wasn't it Pancho Villa? I had one (J.Colon) off well known a well known New Jersey dentist, which like most of his sales looked like he'd been sharpening his tools on it! and Hector Rivera I had most of Martin Koppels stock of this and cleaned up with it at the 100 club when Ady was playing it. (£25 a pop) Edited September 2, 2010 by Tony Smith Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 i need a tutorial to put all my track on refosoul...you're right ken just hit the "reply with refosoul clip" button at top or bottom of any thread and just do what you normally do for upload sites shout in feedback if any probs and someone come running Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Realpeoplesmusic Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 just hit the "reply with refosoul clip" button at top or bottom of any thread and just do what you normally do for upload sites shout in feedback if any probs and someone come running Ray Rodriguez - Delusion - Alegre Great soulful latin and getting some serious turntable action + Rene Bloch - Watucha - Demarco WOW Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 How many of these are out there? Had mine for years and never seen one for sale since i got it. It's hard to find, but not mega rare by any standard Joe. Goes for about £100. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Where did you get this info Alfie? It was recorded in New York and released on Fania first wasn't it? Hi Dean i just checked on my vinyl was pressed in caracas but was recorded in new york...probably in the same time or a couple of weeks later fania put it on market...infact the vinyl have a red label palacio...not the usual palm like fania...but in back of label have both logo fania records and palacio one...i think Papito tell me this story i must ask him if he know more details...probably i'm wrong and he want tell me that this palacio press however is an official press maded in the 60's not like the ones maded in the 70's p.s. bought steppin stone compilation great work !!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Hola Mace have you check my last pm??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 It's hard to find, but not mega rare by any standard Joe. Goes for about £100. not bad for a fiver then. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Ray Rodriguez - Delusion - Alegre Great soulful latin and getting some serious turntable action + Rene Bloch - Watucha - Demarco WOW Delusion of ray Rodriguez is a real Belter...Callum don't know Rene bloch have his lp on atco...can you put it on our share cd??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Hola Mace have you check my last pm??? Hi Alfie, apologies, not seen your p.m. mate, been away on holiday last week so will go check it now. Gotta disagree with you Alfie, Ray Medina is a geat track. Though already pretty well known amongst most collectors of latin boogaloo and fetches £400 - £500, definately one to look out if you got deep pockets Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 not bad for a fiver then. Not bad at all Joe. Didn't realise you were selling it so low. Paypal, cash or cheque mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 is not a critic on the track my man...i know it's a good track very valued and lot of people go for it....i'll only say "for me it's not so special like the others that warren have mentioned...it's not in my want list..." i know if i want my pocket could be very deep Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 is not a critic on the track my man...i know it's a good track very valued and lot of people go for it....i'll only say "for me it's not so special like the others that warren have mentioned...it's not in my want list..." i know if i want my pocket could be very deep Hi Alfie, personal taste and all that, and I'm well aware you have deep pockets. Don't take too much notice of Warren mind, as he isn't 'the full shilling' as we say. After all, this is the guy who charges guests at his house £1 to use the shower and then gives them a toy mic to DJ with. Nuff said..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 the vinyl have a red label palacio...not the usual palm like fania...but in back of label have both logo fania records and palacio one... Any chance of a scan? I've been a Latin music fan a fair few years...had access to the entire Fania, Tico, Cotique, Allegre vaults back in the mid-8T's...needless to say I put in a rather large promo request which was readily supplied! Their (printed) catalogue at that point was wonderful and still contained some cracking titles! The Venezuelan re-presses (wafer-thin vinyl, but sounded OK) were awash in London during those times too...all the stores had them in quantity (via Sterns?) and I picked up one of everything via Tower, Mr.Bongo, Honest Jons etc, who were all on my round as a Charly rep. I also used to pick up many an original LP on my travels to all the jazz stores all over London/South, taking the Boogaloo as well as the killah jazz-dance big-band titles...love some of Machito's material! I actually had some compilations ready to roll via Charly, but I left the company before they came to fruition...shame! One of my fave memories from these years was a concert we went to with Celia Cruz...she had the 1500 strong audience eating out of her hands, and it really was a sight to see as the crowd swayed to the rhythms like a rolling sea...fabulous! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) sure flynny i can make a photo and make an upload....got an lp of Machito "mucho mucho machito" excellent musician love is style very cool!...also Adolfo Echeverria is an amazing musician got a great boogaloo/tropical track from him..an another one think quite unknown is Primitivo y sus combo mi nuevo boogaloo....really good one! Edited September 4, 2010 by Alfie79 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest franky m Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Really...not doubting your word as it is a large scene, but oddly enough I am kinda the opposite as I can recall seeing more HectorR for sale than BV during the 8T's! BV was a steady £40/£60, whilst HR was £30! It's a funny old scene! Are you sure Dave?, i can remember hearing the Hector R in the stafford era, and finding it very hard to get a copy , i picked one up at the 100 club for £15 and was over the moon , never did see another copy ! , some one had found a very small amount and they sold out rapidly , but the Bobby V (both titles) were still available for some time after that , use it £15 and bad breath £10 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Are you sure Dave?, i can remember hearing the Hector R in the stafford era, and finding it very hard to get a copy , i picked one up at the 100 club for £15 and was over the moon , never did see another copy ! , some one had found a very small amount and they sold out rapidly , but the Bobby V (both titles) were still available for some time after that , use it £15 and bad breath £10 I think that's the point of this thread, it did turn up about 1988 / 89 in quantity and the Mod - Soul - Jazz scene hoovered them up. And that is where all the "use it before you loose it" 45 are - in peoples collections I sold my copys of "use it" and "geronimo" on a mod rally in 1990 for 20 quid, because at that time I was buying things like Freddie Houston "If I had known" Carl Underwood , the Seven Souls etc etc and had put my Latin stuff in my sales box. I didn't realise how rare the Latin stuff was. And I ended up appreciating it more so a few years later and collecting it will a passion again. But a think that "use it before you loose it" is a 300 quid record . They are out there in Mods and Jazz fans collections. Just because 2 people with money in there pockets sent the price up to 900 doesn't mean that much for everyone else with a spare copy. It was just a fluke in my opinion. But the interest this has generated in latin / Soul / Boogaloo is priceless !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Are you sure Dave?, i can remember hearing the Hector R in the stafford era, and finding it very hard to get a copy , i picked one up at the 100 club for £15 and was over the moon , never did see another copy ! , some one had found a very small amount and they sold out rapidly , but the Bobby V (both titles) were still available for some time after that , use it £15 and bad breath £10 In my experience, yes. Maybe there was a North / South variation of availability!? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Are you sure Dave?, i can remember hearing the Hector R in the stafford era, and finding it very hard to get a copy , i picked one up at the 100 club for £15 and was over the moon , never did see another copy ! , some one had found a very small amount and they sold out rapidly That was me! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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