Mrtag Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Which U.S. record label in your view released the best northern soul related 45's!! my guess for starters would be that Okeh would have to be up there with the best!! Edited August 5, 2010 by mrtag
Guest Phoenix8049 Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Mirwood Released some pretty good Northern i think Stu.
Ady Croasdell Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Pound for pound Mirwood though Ric Tic, Shrine, Revilot and Golden World would be up there.
Mrtag Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 Pound for pound Mirwood though Ric Tic, Shrine, Revilot and Golden World would be up there. everyone a winner !! what about some of the smaller labels!!
purist Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 None of them come close to RCA for me, especially if you have a broad definition of what is Northern. I'm constantly being surprised at finding things I didn't know amongst RCA's catalogue, R'n'B, Popcorn, 7T's, etc, plus the fabulous Oldies etc. But that's judged by quantity as much as quality, "best" records are a personal taste thing surely. btw I've collected a few labels and pound for pound Brunswick are worth considering, plus most are really cheap to buy in N/S terms !
Guest Phoenix8049 Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Cameo Parkway had a few corkers too. Stu.
Mrtag Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 i'm gonna go for the King stable some cracking r'n'b in amongst that lot!!
Mrtag Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 RCA yep!! You like to pick a winner don't you:yes: how you doing mate youve been a little quiet lately everything all right??
Mrtag Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) FINE THANKS.....What about all the tunes on Motown,Soul,Tamla v.i.p etc? I really should have mentioned not including Tamla related labels as there are so many but what the heck they are U.S. labels and they did a hell of a lot to enhance Northern Soul. ATB John. Edited August 5, 2010 by mrtag
Kev Moore Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 I really should have mentioned not including Tamla related labels as there are so many but what the heck they U.S. labels and they did a hell of a lot to enhance Northern Soul. ATB John. Carla, Karen, Moira stable. Dale Warren, Popcorn Wiley, Ollie McLaughlin, Sonny Sanders, Ala King etc etc. Choice labels IMO:yes: . Kev
Guest posstot Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) For me, hands down, for Northern....RnB....popcorn sound and big city soul it has to be abc/paramount.... eg. Rick Lovejoy(hi longy:wave: ), lloyd price, sapphires, impressions, m-3's, bobby scott, the trends, lamar morris, chuck payne,john leslie,buddy lamp, billy dawn, baby washington, del vikings, terri allen, eddie curtis,doug morris, reflections.....and that's just a few...phew:sweatingbullets: . Mike oh, and not forgetting the red hot RnB artist Conway Twitty......i shit ye not...(be played at the Hideaway in september, by yours truly. Edited August 5, 2010 by posstot
Guest Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 oh, and not forgetting the red hot RnB artist Conway Twitty......i shit ye not...(be played at the Hideaway in september, by yours truly. Depends who's on first
Benji Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 I I had the chance to buy a complete set of all worthwile releases of a major label and an indie label I'd choose RCA and Shrine. Both cover about everything I like in 60s music from the US ... and I would live happily ever after...
Suzannek Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 RCA Victor for me, them lovely little black issues . When it comes to RnB then I agree with Davie, King, Federal stable takes a lot of beating. Suz x
Guest Paul Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Mirwood is top of the 'northern soul' list for me. Not just because of the high proportion of 'northern soul' style tracks in their catalogue, but because they developed their very own sound by trying to emulate the Motown sound. Almost by accident, I suppose. Mirwood was like a raw low-budget version of Motown but sometimes with even more energy and drama. And they often got an even "hotter" sound than Motown by compressing the hell out of everything. Next on my list would be Ric-Tic, again because they also ended up with their own sound - obviously very similar to Motown but there was a distinct Ric-Tic sound. But Motown is what really inspired them. Paul
Philt Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Know what you're saying in terms of sustained, quality output but ... ... GoGate
Guest posstot Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 oh, and not forgetting the red hot RnB artist Conway Twitty......i shit ye not...(be played at the Hideaway in september, by yours truly. Depends who's on first if you play that from under my feet, i'll , i'll, i'll, i'll take you to kangaroo court!! i will.
Mrtag Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 small label big sounds LA-BEAT Big Ask anybody out there know who did the drum's in the LPT's just listened to JAMES SHORTER - modern day woman the drums are very much ala AL WILLIAMS Dont ya think :yes:
Guest Paul Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 small label big sounds LA-BEAT Big Ask anybody out there know who did the drum's in the LPT's just listened to JAMES SHORTER - modern day woman the drums are very much ala AL WILLIAMS Dont ya think :yes: Johnny Mills
Mrtag Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 Johnny Mills Super star!! Thanks atb John:yes:
Wilxy Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Albeit primarily a Detroit collector,and I totally empathise with earlier choices of Ric-Tic/Golden World, and latterly the Carla/Karen stable etc.(and not ignoring the Motown portfolio) I would totally concur with the Mirwood choice for its consistency with regard to the initial Thread Heading! best, wilxy
Guest WPaulVanDyk Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Atlantic and Cameo Parkway are close but the best label for me is RCA - it also features the best Northern soul record ever on it
Guest aintgotit Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 i think the d- town and subsidiaries put out a great amount of raw sounding tunes, they sound like the bands in the room with you.
Guest Dave Turner Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 For the traditional early Northern sound it's Mirwood and the related Keymen for me. Although it wasn't specifically tailor made for the early 70s Northern scene, much of it couldn't have been done better if it was. Jimmy Conwell, Richard Temple, The Belles, Olympics, Jackie Lee, Bobby Garrett, Furys, Fi-dels, Bobby Womack 'kin mind blowing stuff at the time. So many other great labels though. My 2p
Guest aintgotit Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I,d have said mala, but does that come under bell records, and does bell have a parent company, just out of interest?
Mrtag Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 I I had the chance to buy a complete set of all worthwile releases of a major label and an indie label I'd choose RCA and Shrine. Both cover about everything I like in 60s music from the US ... and I would live happily ever after... You And me both mate:yes:
Mrtag Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 I,d have said mala, but does that come under bell records, and does bell have a parent company, just out of interest? good shout Bell,Mala, Amy some great stuff out of that record group!!
Guest in town Mikey Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 This was asked a few years ago, and I sheepishly added RCA, and was delighted at how many agreed. Of the smaller labels. Romark has a high percentage of real top quality Northern Soul tunes.
purist Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Atlantic and Cameo Parkway are close but the best label for me is RCA - it also features the best Northern soul record ever on it Go on, I'll bite, what is the greatest ever on RCA iyho? (I've narrowed my favourite RCA 45 down to about 150 choices, so many good flip sides too ! )
Guest Phoenix8049 Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Nobody mentioned MGM yet,they also had a few unexpected gems. Stu.
Mrtag Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 This was asked a few years ago, and I sheepishly added RCA, and was delighted at how many agreed. Of the smaller labels. Romark has a high percentage of real top quality Northern Soul tunes. correct!! some great stuff on ARGO to:yes:
pogo paul Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 everyone a winner !! what about some of the smaller labels!! Peacock , some cracking tunes on this label.
arnie j Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 agree with all of the previous posts but has anybody mentioned onederful lable yet ?some corkers on there jason
dthedrug Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Hi All there is only a few 1. is the UK label Tamla-Motown it has been by far the most famous label in the WEST I am sure no one would disagree? so with that in-mind my choice would be Isleand/B&C Records as this companys output was a greater influance on my taste in music than any other, i think if you ask the majority of soul collctoe born 1950 to 55 would agree?? DAVE
Mrtag Posted August 8, 2010 Author Posted August 8, 2010 Which U.S. record label in your view released the best northern soul related 45's!! my guess for starters would be that Okeh would have to be up there with the best!! nice few bits on United Artistes????
Munchkin Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 agree with all of the previous posts but has anybody mentioned onederful lable yet ?some corkers on there jason Agree With you Jason, OneDerful, MarVlus, Mpac And Toddlin Town, Some Great sides on all 4 labels
hullsoul Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Agree with plenty of the above but one seems missing.........Sue. Cheers Martyn
Pete Jay Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 WHAT ABOUT VERVE & FOR R&B DUKE MUST BE UP THERE WITH THE BEST. PETE
Guest JIM BARRY Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 i would go for the groovesville groove city wheelesville stable for an indie and a good contender for a major label would be capitol.
Ged Parker Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Johnny Mills You sure Paul? I thought Johnny Mills was one of the Masqueraders and a vocalists rather than a drummer? I know the LPTs did backing for loads of Lou Beaty's detroit lables and the line up changed often. Didn't they also do the backing for 'Baby Don't You Weep'?
Ged Parker Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Can't believe no one has said Arctic yet. What about Mello
Mrtag Posted August 9, 2010 Author Posted August 9, 2010 You sure Paul? I thought Johnny Mills was one of the Masqueraders and a vocalists rather than a drummer? I know the LPTs did backing for loads of Lou Beaty's detroit lables and the line up changed often. Didn't they also do the backing for 'Baby Don't You Weep'? Come on Ged spill the beans! If you know better let us know who's doing the drumming! Also it's the bongo's that are of interest to me so it may not be the drummer, although at that speed you would think that drumsticks would have had to have been used!! ATB John
Ged Parker Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) Come on Ged spill the beans! If you know better let us know who's doing the drumming! Also it's the bongo's that are of interest to me so it may not be the drummer, although at that speed you would think that drumsticks would have had to have been used!! ATB John I don't know better Paul may well be right but this is a picture reportedly of Lou Beaty (on the right) and Johnny Mills rehearsing with the Masqueraders. I can't remember where I copied it from though. Clearly on this pic Johnny is laying down vocals but that doesn't mean he wasn't also a drummer. Edited August 9, 2010 by ged parker
Mrtag Posted August 9, 2010 Author Posted August 9, 2010 I don't know better Paul may well be right but this is a picture reportedly of Lou Beaty (on the right) and Johnny Mills rehearsing with the Masqueraders. I can't remember where I copied it from though. Clearly on this pic Johnny is laying down vocals but that doesn't mean he wasn't also a drummer. Nice one matey:thumbsup:
Guest Paul Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 You sure Paul? I thought Johnny Mills was one of the Masqueraders and a vocalists rather than a drummer? I know the LPTs did backing for loads of Lou Beaty's detroit lables and the line up changed often. Didn't they also do the backing for 'Baby Don't You Weep'? Yes, Johnny Mills played drums. He was a member of the in-house band The LPTs and also wrote songs, mostly with Curtis Trusel. Paul
Mrtag Posted August 10, 2010 Author Posted August 10, 2010 Carla, Karen, Moira stable. Dale Warren, Popcorn Wiley, Ollie McLaughlin, Sonny Sanders, Ala King etc etc. Choice labels IMO:yes: . Kev Talking of popcorn what about Pameline?
Guest WPaulVanDyk Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 As i said RCA being the best someone asked what was the best Northern soul record then on it, well it's Sugar Dumpling. that to me is my all time fav and certainly RCA at it's best
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