Mick Howard Posted August 4, 2010 Posted August 4, 2010 I know that there was a huge number of pages that sprang up following Daves post about the Stafford re-union back in April but to honest I don't have time to sift through that lot to see if these were posted up. First is the flyer for the Eddie Parker & Lorraine Chandler gig (which was effin awesome) and the other an article from Echoes of 1985.
Anoraks Corner Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 That Black Echoes page is a classic in itself...thanks for posting Mick...brought a smile to me face.
Dave Thorley Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 That will be a young Butch in the photo and with hair, bless him
Garethx Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Great stuff. I remember reading the Echoes article at the bus stop going to school and marvelling at the label scans, particularly the Troy Dodds. Can anyone name all the cover-ups?
Anoraks Corner Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Great stuff. I remember reading the Echoes article at the bus stop going to school and marvelling at the label scans, particularly the Troy Dodds. I used to dream about the Soul Set scan...those were the days when you thought you could never, ever own such discs!
Mark R Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Can anyone name all the cover-ups? There's a few I don't know in there......but Susan Rewis, Eddie Parker I know.......like you, I would like to know the others. Cheers, Mark R
Anoraks Corner Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Moving Parts = Jimmy Seals - Challenge Brooks Brothers = Headliners - Luau Jack Montgomery = Don & Juan - Mala Lee Valentine & Bluesmen - Bunny Sigler - Decca Denita James = Susan Rewis - Columbia Geraldine Jones & Floorshakers - Margie Hendrix - Mercury Carol Anderson and Larry Hale...kicking myself over these two...argh!
Mark Jones Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Remember Eddie and Lorraine at Stafford because it was my 21st birthday night!...it's on my webpage! (below)...and you are correct totally awesome night...especially Eddie in his Zulu outfit if memory serves me correctly? Girlfriend at the time was most p*ssed off I buggered off and left her on my birthday! Here's some of the C90 I did recorded on the night! lorraine chandler - live - lorrraine chandler - i can't hold on - lorraine chandler - what can i do - eddie parker - i'm gone - eddie parker - love you baby -stafford live - I've also cleaned up the echoes page you posted and turned round as was getting a crick in my neck! Edited August 5, 2010 by soulechoes
Mick Howard Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 That will be a young Butch in the photo and with hair, bless him You may still have a full head of hair Mr Thorley but most of us have lost some if not all of ours...... Re the C/U's I can't think of the Carol Anderson or Larry Hale either but here are a couple more from back in the day for a quiz (C/U artists only to make it a little more difficult)! Johnny Honeycut Big Joe's Ivory Brass Lou Pride Johnny Hendley The Agents (one of my favs from Keb then Rob Marriott) The Ambassadors (I believe Terry found a heap of these at Global in Manchester) Eddie Lyons Mick
Chalky Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Re the C/U's I can't think of the Carol Anderson or Larry Hale either but here are a couple more from back in the day for a quiz (C/U artists only to make it a little more difficult)! Johnny Honeycut Mick Arthur Alexander - Keep Her Guessing - Dot ?
Mick Howard Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 Arthur Alexander - Keep Her Guessing - Dot ? Spot on. Knew you'd get most if not all of these Chalky.... Mick
Chalky Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Re the C/U's I can't think of the Carol Anderson or Larry Hale either but here are a couple more from back in the day for a quiz (C/U artists only to make it a little more difficult)! Johnny Honeycut Arthur Alexander - Keep her Guessing - Dot Big Joe's Ivory Brass Big Frank & Essence Lou Pride Hayes Cotton Johnny Hendley The Agents (one of my favs from Keb then Rob Marriott) The Ambassadors (I believe Terry found a heap of these at Global in Manchester) Eddie Lyons June Jackson on Musette ? Mick other three will have to think about?
arnie j Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 was johnny hendley the lonely for you baby-sam dees or was that covered as dan brantley ? jason
Dave Thorley Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Sam Dees was covered as Dan Brantley, I have Ady Pountain to thank for that.
Philt Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 I know that there was a huge number of pages that sprang up following Daves post about the Stafford re-union back in April but to honest I don't have time to sift through that lot to see if these were posted up. First is the flyer for the Eddie Parker & Lorraine Chandler gig (which was effin awesome) and the other an article from Echoes of 1985. B-hell I was 18. As Dave says ... it still makes me smile when I look in my box now and see things like the Cairos, Soul Set, Royal Robins, Don and Juan, Fantasians; all TOTW tunes and absolutely mythical records for a yoof buying boots and the odd cheap thing off Mr Brady's list: "buy it now before the price rockets" ... never a truer word!!! Remember meeting up with a lad called Joe Skillern (a butcher from Loughborough way as I recall) on the train a couple of times and he supplied me with some great newies tapes. Dunno what happened to him as we lost touch when Stafford finished but wherever you are thanks mate Unbelievable times which, unbeknowns to me, would shape my taste forever! ps. Who first introduced the latin stuff?
Mark Jones Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Unbelievable times which, unbeknowns to me, would shape my taste forever! Ditto PhilT...still mainly Stafford tunes I buy!
Philt Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Ditto PhilT...still mainly Stafford tunes I buy! Think I get on a few people's tits banging on about it at times
Mark Jones Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Think I get on a few people's tits banging on about it at times lol Ditto again! Have a look my Youtube videos to prove the point!
Philt Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 lol Ditto again! Have a look my Youtube videos to prove the point! Guess what, I was watching em t'other day funnily enough
arnie j Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 thebig thing about stafford for me was the secrecy of it all,the illusiveness,the unknown,the covered up,as a 16yr old boy i was fascinated by this magical and sometimes dark place,the kebites who would dress like him, the strange wind up characters, tunes that we wouldnt be told the name of and that seemed as rare as monet paintings,i loved it,lovedit with a passion and as already said it shaped my life musically,it ws 25 years ago but to me it was the greatest allnighter ever jason
Mark Jones Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 thebig thing about stafford for me was the secrecy of it all,the illusiveness,the unknown,the covered up,as a 16yr old boy i was fascinated by this magical and sometimes dark place,the kebites who would dress like him, the strange wind up characters, tunes that we wouldnt be told the name of and that seemed as rare as monet paintings,i loved it,lovedit with a passion and as already said it shaped my life musically,it ws 25 years ago but to me it was the greatest allnighter ever jason Summed up nicely Arnie...never really thought about it, always put it down to the awesome tunes, progressive musical policy and fantastic "happening scene" atmosphere...but you are spot on...it was far more than that...Dave you made a magical place...one that has touched many of the people who went there...it shaped who I am as a person...not just my musical taste.
Philt Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 Itt was Willie Kendricks 'change your ways' that first gave me the WTF is THIS hit the first time I went to a nighter and Stafford did that with knobs on, regularly. As has been said many times, probably a combination of a whole range of factors, including my age, growing interest in rare soul / records, turnover of tunes, quality of the line up etc etc, but there was undeniably something different and special about it and you sort of knew it somehow, without knowing what or why it was - at least I didn't at the time. I've never felt it anywhere since, not even close.
Guest Northern PhanTom Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 You may still have a full head of hair Mr Thorley but most of us have lost some if not all of ours...... Think you had more than your fair share of hair back then Mick, serves you right for growing it so long Regards Tom
Anoraks Corner Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Johnny Honeycut Arthur Alexander - Keep her Guessing - Dot Big Joe's Ivory Brass Big Frank & Essence Lou Pride Hayes Cotton Johnny Hendley - LARRY DAVIS - KENT The Agents (one of my favs from Keb then Rob Marriott) - DYNAMIC THREE - DEL VAL The Ambassadors (I believe Terry found a heap of these at Global in Manchester) WILLIE HARPER - ALON Eddie Lyons June Jackson on Musette ? Gary Sole (Knight) was also played as 'The Agents', and the Determinations (King) as the Ambassadors, but these were Rushbrooke Casino sounds that spilled over into Stafford...as quite a few other discs did. There are just short of x600 cover up disc details over on my website >>> AnoraksCorner Cover Up List <<<...but 'Carol Anderson' and 'Larry Hale' are still doing my head in!
jocko Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Carol Anderson wasn't the flip side of the Headliners was it, I remember being at his house and he played the flip of something like that and it was very good in its own right so he covered it as something totally different, didn't he also play flip side of Turbines c/u, although can't imagine that being a female vocal somehow. I could be completely wrong however as Keb turned over one or two records a second at that time!! Great article Mick, and some great insightful writing from Mr Whittington, succesfully following in the very large shoes of Stuart Cosgrove, which when you think about it there was some real quality journalism about the scene then. Mick you got the article about the Fife allnighters that Mr Cosgrove did, just want to see my name in print again.......
binsy Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Carol Anderson wasn't the flip side of the Headliners was it, I remember being at his house and he played the flip of something like that and it was very good in its own right so he covered it as something totally different, didn't he also play flip side of Turbines c/u, although can't imagine that being a female vocal somehow. I could be completely wrong however as Keb turned over one or two records a second at that time!! Great article Mick, and some great insightful writing from Mr Whittington, succesfully following in the very large shoes of Stuart Cosgrove, which when you think about it there was some real quality journalism about the scene then. Mick you got the article about the Fife allnighters that Mr Cosgrove did, just want to see my name in print again....... great times indeed, because of the large turnover of records the quality control slipped at times. The important thing was that they were trying something different and like others that have written about it I was a 19 year old mod when I first went. I remember chatting to Keb about missing out on the past ( Wigan, Torch etc) and he said this is going to have it's own history and he was right. Loved the Fife allnighters Jock, it was absolutely bonkers, dancing on tables etc. I'd love to see the article too as I've never seen it.
Anoraks Corner Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 .but 'Carol Anderson' and 'Larry Hale' are still doing my head in! Just swapped emails with GuyH...he can't recall these two either.
Guest in town Mikey Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Just swapped emails with GuyH...he can't recall these two either. Shot in the dark, as i dont know when this was popular, but could Carol Anderson be the Jelly Beans?
Chalky Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Shot in the dark, as i dont know when this was popular, but could Carol Anderson be the Jelly Beans? would have thought that was a well known oldie by then? The Only one I can think of with that (or similar) title is Reuben Wright on Capitol but Kingy played that as Eddie Holman. I've played the reuben Wright out, file is in refosoul.
Mick Howard Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 Great article Mick, and some great insightful writing from Mr Whittington, succesfully following in the very large shoes of Stuart Cosgrove, which when you think about it there was some real quality journalism about the scene then. Mick you got the article about the Fife allnighters that Mr Cosgrove did, just want to see my name in print again....... Jock me old china Will have a route around & see what I can dig out re Cosgrove (St Johnstone - pah....) - fairly sure I have some stuff by him from back in the day. I do have something though that I'm going to scan some extracts from which will be a bit of a nostalgia trip not least to you young man. Between Flynny and Chalky all the C/U's I put up have been er..... uncovered The Carol Anderson & Larry Hale, however, still eludes. Mick Mick
Mick Howard Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 Think you had more than your fair share of hair back then Mick, serves you right for growing it so long Regards Tom Oh Tom You're not wrong mate. I used to do all sorts with it - pleats, extensions, crops, bleach, you name it. Sadly those days are gone so I've reverted to my first 'proper' haircut - a skinhead (c/w lambchops)..... Mick
Simon T Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 The Carol Anderson & Larry Hale, however, still eludes. I think the Larry Hale was Eugene Church on World Pacific Records, if so I claim my 'Dollar Bill'
arnie j Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 am i right in thinking that clyde mcphatter-two lonely peoplecant afford to cry was covered as ernie andrews-neither will i ? also johnny my boy was covered as magnetics-maybe baby ? jason
Simon T Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 am i right in thinking that clyde mcphatter-two lonely peoplecant afford to cry was covered as ernie andrews-neither will i ? also johnny my boy was covered as magnetics-maybe baby ? jason Yes. Check the link in post 24 above to Dave's comprehensive listings of cover ups.
Mick Howard Posted August 7, 2010 Author Posted August 7, 2010 I think the Larry Hale was Eugene Church on World Pacific Records, if so I claim my 'Dollar Bill' Simon By jove I think you've got it Sir but did this actually get played out much? Far too fast then let alone now to dance to but a great tune nevertheless. Mick
Simon T Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 Simon By jove I think you've got it Sir but did this actually get played out much? Far too fast then let alone now to dance to but a great tune nevertheless. Mick I was trying to think of a record with the word sorry in the lyrics that Keb would have had around that time and the only one I remembered was the Topics - Have Your Fun. However, that was C/U as Phil Orsi and uncovered earlier. I found 2 of 3 tapes that Keb did for me, and on one is the Eugene Church, which funnily enough play a lot faster than the records do. The tape's labelled 'Keb Darge 60's Newies 17/5/85', compare the date of the tape and the Echo's article.
Simon T Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 Simon By jove I think you've got it Sir but did this actually get played out much? Far too fast then let alone now to dance to but a great tune nevertheless. Mick I was trying to think of a record with the word sorry in the lyrics that Keb would have had around that time and the only one I remembered was the Topics - Have Your Fun. However, that was C/U as Phil Orsi and uncovered earlier. I found 2 of 3 tapes that Keb did for me, and on one is the Eugene Church, which funnily enough play a lot faster than the records do. The tape's labelled 'Keb Darge 60's Newies 17/5/85', compare the date of the tape and the Echo's article.
Mick Howard Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 Jock me old china Will have a route around & see what I can dig out re Cosgrove (St Johnstone - pah....) - fairly sure I have some stuff by him from back in the day. I do have something though that I'm going to scan some extracts from which will be a bit of a nostalgia trip not least to you young man. Mick Well, as promised here is that nostalgia trip Jock. I'm sure that a few others on here will remember this. This is the front page and your (I assume) resume of one of the Stafford anniversaries. I will post something else from this a lttile later. I will also start a new thread re some stuff from Echoes including a Stuart Cosgrove piece although sadly I can' find the one that you referred to. Enjoy:thumbsup: Mick
purist Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 top quote from the Echoes article - "you see, the Top Dog Niter is strictly for the purist ":lol: Never happier at any Niter before or since, TOTW was my nirvana, my happy place..... p.s. if you didn't look at the time, I put some Stafford photos in the gallery around the time of the 25th Anniversary.
Pumpkinseed Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Jock me old china Will have a route around & see what I can dig out re Cosgrove (St Johnstone - pah....) - fairly sure I have some stuff by him from back in the day. I do have something though that I'm going to scan some extracts from which will be a bit of a nostalgia trip not least to you young man. Between Flynny and Chalky all the C/U's I put up have been er..... uncovered The Carol Anderson & Larry Hale, however, still eludes. Mick Mick
Pumpkinseed Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 THE COVER UPS : BOTH PLAYED BY KEB : 1985ish LARRY HALE - SORRY c/u - EUGENE CHURCH - DOLLAR BILL ( world pacific ) CAROL ANDERSON -YOU'VE DONE ME WRONG c/u - PENNY NORTH - THOUGHT I HAD A GOOD THING ( luau )
Louise Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Eddie parker at Stafford Eddie Parker sandwiched between two dodgy characters the sauve Tony Parker andthe boyish Andy Spencer, both guys had a tune or two in there time. Dave
Tiggerwoods Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Eddie parker at Stafford Theres a small rodent stuck under Tony Parkers nose ... can anyone identify it?
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