macca Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Steve Manus and me self were verbaling about the dance style you mention, and came up with ''Dance Floor Walking'' to describe it, (and yes they do seem to attach them selves to you) and the amount of floor used is...... ALL OF IT. Clapping NS style is unique to our scene and goes all the way back to the Wheel, personally don't know what the applause is for at the end of certain tunes, never did it back in the day, but then I've I've just returned to NS do's after a 37 year break and the first thing I noticed was the lack of those short, sharp LOUD claps in the right spots, especially when you're the only bugger that does it. If you'd hung on until at least December of that year, possibly January of the following, you'd have witnessed the spontaneous eruption of applause to Looking For You in the main hall at Wigan. We've since had it ratified at branch level, after going through the machinery of negotiation. Garnett Mimms is to blame. Documentary evidence to support this claim can be provided on request. I resisted applauding at first but was soon sucked into the vortex... 1
Premium Stuff Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I guess clapping must be learnt or transferred by means of some kind of "socialisation" - but clapping definitely fits with our kind of soul music - just like spinning does when dancing. You often see soulies at home playing records, in the radio studio, in the pub listening to a decent soul sound and they can't help themselves and just clap to the right bits in the song. Clapping and spinning are both probably a fairly natural kind of release - maybe due to the need to release the emotion and tension built up through the soulful nature of the music we all love? Not sure we could prove any of the above through laboratory or empirical psychological or sociological experiments but hey ho Richard 1
Guest manusf3a Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 .....Unfortunately it has the adverse effect - 'The Pendulum' is always in time with another record! Len OOps just realised I was gettingh my pendulums mixed up with my metronomes?,use one for guitar playing sometimes at home.
Premium Stuff Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 OOps just realised I was gettingh my pendulums mixed up with my metronomes?,use one for guitar playing sometimes at home. What a pendulum?
Guest manusf3a Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I guess clapping must be learnt or transferred by means of some kind of "socialisation" - but clapping definitely fits with our kind of soul music - just like spinning does when dancing. You often see soulies at home playing records, in the radio studio, in the pub listening to a decent soul sound and they can't help themselves and just clap to the right bits in the song. Clapping and spinning are both probably a fairly natural kind of release - maybe due to the need to release the emotion and tension built up through the soulful nature of the music we all love? Not sure we could prove any of the above through laboratory or empirical psychological or sociological experiments but hey ho Richard Bet we could if we tried Richard.
Guest manusf3a Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 You know, to be fair to the ''floor walkers'' I can remember doing exactly the same thing on at least one occasion. Were up at Soulcarps drum, his parents place in Pontifract and we decided to go to the Heartbeat in Leeds, arrived, got geared up and buzzing, (NOTE I'd just learnt to shuffle like my feet were on castors) and heard Agent Double 0 Soul (Instrumental) for the first time !!!!. I distinctly remember zooming up and down the whole length of the floor repeatedly, don't think I ever did it again 'cause we started going to Cats and the dancers there were shit hot !!!!!!!! used very little floor space and still looked brilliant, especially the head spinners......AND they KNEW HOW TO CLAP !!!!!. The most requested record by floor walkers of all time whether north or south of the great divide,has to be "Edwins......Twenty five miles".
Frankie Crocker Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 You often see soulies at home playing records, in the radio studio, in the pub listening to a decent soul sound and they can't help themselves and just clap to the right bits in the song. Clapping and spinning are both probably a fairly natural kind of release - maybe due to the need to release the emotion and tension built up through the soulful nature of the music we all love? Richard - yes, agreed, if you've got soul, you react to the music consciously or subconsciously, usually tapping the feet... Tension though is not a common sensation experienced by Northern fans, the clappers and spinners: maybe the deep soul lover of shouters and screamers perhaps? Real Northern fans feel the 'build up' and respond by clapping - as already noted in other threads, spinning is too often disconnected from the music but spreads like a rash when there are cameras around... ATB 2
Premium Stuff Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Richard - yes, agreed, if you've got soul, you react to the music consciously or subconsciously, usually tapping the feet... Tension though is not a common sensation experienced by Northern fans, the clappers and spinners: maybe the deep soul lover of shouters and screamers perhaps? Real Northern fans feel the 'build up' and respond by clapping - as already noted in other threads, spinning is too often disconnected from the music but spreads like a rash when there are cameras around... ATB Yes, agree on the spinning thing - floor work even more so. Think when you say "build up" and I say "tension" we are talking about exactly the same feeling Richard Edited January 24, 2014 by Premium Stuff 2
Frankie Crocker Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I wonder if anyone else has any unusual names for describing dance styles. I think it was Bryney who came up with 'The Wigan Walk' - again only an observation, nothing critical. I thought it a great description of a certain style. Shrewd observation fellas but can a 'Walk' actually be a dance? The Wigan Walk was, and still is, the nursery slopes for timid movers, a kind of Hokey Cokey for line dancers who have watched a YouTube dance class clip and are primed to dance the night away for the first time... 3
macca Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Shrewd observation fellas but can a 'Walk' actually be a dance? The Wigan Walk was, and still is, the nursery slopes for timid movers, a kind of Hokey Cokey for line dancers who have watched a YouTube dance class clip and are primed to dance the night away for the first time... And if you give them Ben Zine they'll do it spontaneously without prompting of any kind... 1
macca Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 plus Jay Traynor while they build up confidence... 1
Premium Stuff Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Shrewd observation fellas but can a 'Walk' actually be a dance? The Wigan Walk was, and still is, the nursery slopes for timid movers, a kind of Hokey Cokey for line dancers who have watched a YouTube dance class clip and are primed to dance the night away for the first time... Showaddywaddy
Guest Byrney Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Shrewd observation fellas but can a 'Walk' actually be a dance? The Wigan Walk was, and still is, the nursery slopes for timid movers, a kind of Hokey Cokey for line dancers who have watched a YouTube dance class clip and are primed to dance the night away for the first time... Agreed, although in my neck of the woods some that that take this tea pot stroll would have you think they've been around since t'casino. There are varying degrees of this walky thing though - most keep it to just walking from side to side in a few steps with a tea pot type hand movement every now again - the odd one takes the polys off, sticks the timberlands on and heads off into the city with a knotted hanky on a stick. Edited January 25, 2014 by Byrney
Pete S Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 If you'd hung on until at least December of that year, possibly January of the following, you'd have witnessed the spontaneous eruption of applause to Looking For You in the main hall at Wigan. We've since had it ratified at branch level, after going through the machinery of negotiation. Garnett Mimms is to blame. Documentary evidence to support this claim can be provided on request. I resisted applauding at first but was soon sucked into the vortex... This is true. I reported it. I was there. It did happen. 2
Guest manusf3a Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Agreed, although in my neck of the woods some that that take this tea pot stroll would have you think they've been around since t'casino. There are varying degrees of this walky thing though - most keep it to just walking from side to side in a few steps with a tea pot type hand movement every now again - the odd one takes the polys off, sticks the timberlands on and heads off into the city with a knotted hanky on a stick. Just thought Bryney,another favourite choon of the walkers that by "The Flowershoppe",played as a right of initation when a novice walker learns to traverse every square foot of the floor to one record and then prepares for "The long walk into walkers zen sunset,by as you say kicking of the velts(or whatever,however velts are shaped a lot like "walking shoes")puts on the timbas, picks up the stick and knotted hanky and heads out door and just like the original walker himself"Dicky whitty son gets a cat and unlike Dicky when reaching London.,does not stop but instead"Just Keeps On Walking".They say theyve got their hanky,stick and cat,they they just keep on walking". Ps Some have been known to remove the beer towel from their waistband and tie that in knots to then attach to the end of the stick in place of the more traditonal knotted hanky!This is entirely a matter of the individual walkers personal taste and preference. Edited January 25, 2014 by manusf3a
TheBigO Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 For what its worth, for me clapping as always made the scene special; as said before; when you have 500 people clapping in perfect unison to an off beat you didn't even realise was there it's just magic! I think too much shite is discussed these days on what is/isnt allowed; what should or shouldn't be played etc etc and the basic truth; namely it is all about the music and the vibe, has been lost. I have and will always clap, despite some of the raised eyebrows I get lol, old soulies never die, they just fade away albeit to a thunderous backbeat of claps 3
Mike Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) last 10 or such posts removed as in the the laurel and hardy videos, laurel and hardy pics, laurel and hardy comments , plus the make your own songs up posts as well all I say for now is some members really do need to look at their posts on here - this is the ALL ABOUT THE SOUL forum there is a freebasing forum, if you really must talk about such things then eithe rdo it in their or don't bother! happens again will take action as per the terms of use thread reopened comments on this post welcome in the support forum thanks mike Edited January 28, 2014 by mike blah 1
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