Denbo Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 If you do, please state what the record is, or better still, send us a scan. Thanks. Denbo. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 If you do, please state what the record is, or better still, send us a scan. Thanks. Denbo. looks like er nothing i've seen before literally kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 looks like er nothing i've seen before literally kev I know, I'm trying to attach the scan as we speak. Don't know what happened first time round? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 looks like er nothing i've seen before literally kev Right, let's see if this works??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yes I do but they are German releases Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yes I do but they are German releases Can you send me a scan? Are you saying that your German copies look exactly the same as the scan of mine? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Can you send me a scan? Are you saying that your German copies look exactly the same as the scan of mine? Yes they do. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yes they do. Any chance of an example scan? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Any chance of an example scan? Theyr'e all in my house in Somerset, I'm not. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Theyr'e all in my house in Somerset, I'm not. That's no excuse. :o) Weekend perhaps? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest john s Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Looks more like ex-UK colony to me. That 'copyright control' thing is never UK - South Africa, New Zealand, maybe? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 This is the UK Copy of Cafe Regios / Shaft. The one pictured above is definitely not UK, although they both have same serial number. Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dthedrug Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 HI ALL ...IS THERE A UK DEMO OF THIS 1st RELEASE:ph34r:??? DAVE KIL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 New Zealand press is quite different (or as different as a still yellow label stax 45 can get), so not NZ. Australian ones usually say Australia. The German Stax 45s I've seen didn't have the label edge writing in English. I agree that it is weird not having a more solid clue. That copyright control stamp is really familiar. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 If it's not German or Australian, then it's South African Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-r Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 If it's not German or Australian, then it's South African I would have thought Aus or SA issues would have had solid centres, Pete. Could also be Dutch IMO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Irish Stax? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 Irish Stax? Oo, now that's a possibility. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-r Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Oo, now that's a possibility. Wouldn't have thought so to be honest, Tony and Denbo. Irish pressings of records looked deadly similar to their British counterparts - looked and felt the same, and even had the same types of centres (quite similar to Indian pressings of UK records). I think it's more likely to be European IMO (eg, Germany or Holland). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 Wouldn't have thought so to be honest, Tony and Denbo. Irish pressings of records looked deadly similar to their British counterparts - looked and felt the same, and even had the same types of centres (quite similar to Indian pressings of UK records). I think it's more likely to be European IMO (eg, Germany or Holland). Yeah, but why is the copyright stuff etc in English? I have a Tami Lynn 'I'm Gonna Run Away etc. . . ' on Irish Polydor, which is only similar to the English Polydor and has no 'Made in England' on it like the English release. So, Irish Stax could be a possibility. Steve G might be able to help if and when he sends in scans of his German Stax releases. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Steve G might be able to help if and when he sends in scans of his German Stax releases. Yup, I might still have one example in the lock up down the road. Depending on how the England games goes might venture down there later. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Another interesting one. German Stax Copy (or so it says on the net). Same number too! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Yeah, but why is the copyright stuff etc in English? I have a Tami Lynn 'I'm Gonna Run Away etc. . . ' on Irish Polydor, which is only similar to the English Polydor and has no 'Made in England' on it like the English release. So, Irish Stax could be a possibility. Steve G might be able to help if and when he sends in scans of his German Stax releases. What does that bit in the box say? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 What does that bit in the box say? If you're talking about the scan I posted up, COPYRIGHT CONTROL. Why? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rbman Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) Here's the German one....... Edited June 23, 2010 by Rbman Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 Here's the German one....... Interethting (with a German accent) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rbman Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Interethting (with a German accent) Well it says "Made in Germany" on the label but i suspect it was actually made in Poland......... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 Well it says "Made in Germany" on the label but i suspect it was actually made in Poland......... In that case . . . . . "Ciekawe" (with a Polish accent) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 ...and here's what copies from the the Land of the Rising Recordprice look like: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 ...and here's what copies from the the Land of the Rising Recordprice look like: That's DEFINITELY not a British release. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest son of stan Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) I recognise that square emblem on the right, underneath the serial number from when I used to work as a buyer in record retail... Possibly Spanish or Portuguese, I seem to think. Edited June 23, 2010 by son of stan Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 I recognise that square emblem on the right, underneath the serial number from when I used to work as a buyer in record retail... Possibly Spanish or Portuguese, I seem to think. To which scan are you referring? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) I would have thought Aus or SA issues would have had solid centres, Pete. Could also be Dutch IMO. I have exactly the same copy as the one in question, but with a solid centre, sorry no scanner, but attached a photo. i always thought it was aussie, but perhaps SA or Rhodesian Could it be possible that denbo's centre has been cut out? Edited June 24, 2010 by julesp1905 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I'm laying money on Aussie. I'm sure I've got a 45 with the 'Copyright Control' box on, and since I don't own any South African or Rhodesian 45s it narrows it down to Aussie. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Could it be possible that denbo's centre has been cut out? yep, Australian press which has been dinked. case closed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 yep, Australian press which has been dinked. case closed. Hey, I'LL decide on whether or not this case is closed. For instance, how do you explain how an Australian copy of the record was bought by me, when it came out, at a new release record sales shop here in the UK? Case NOT YET closed. Having said that, that last scan of the label is the closest / almost the same as mine. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Hey, I'LL decide on whether or not this case is closed. For instance, how do you explain how an Australian copy of the record was bought by me, when it came out, at a new release record sales shop here in the UK? Case NOT YET closed. Having said that, that last scan of the label is the closest / almost the same as mine. Is your label flat, or does it have a sloped incline towards the centre? I have always thought mine to be aussie, it is quite possible that they were pressed in the UK for the OZ market, hence no country of origin printed on the label, export copy perhaps? certainly not meant for UK distribution, but not saying that some couldn't have ended up being sold here Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest son of stan Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 To which scan are you referring? To yours. But since it looks identical to the Australian one, it may be entirely possible that I am talking through my jacksee..... again. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 To yours. But since it looks identical to the Australian one, it may be entirely possible that I am talking through my jacksee..... again. Possibly Right, that's it, case closed. I'm going to call it an Aussie release, despite buying it over the counter here in the UK. Must be one of those pressed for export that never got exported. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Regarding the supposedly australian copy: What can be found in the run-out grooves? Is the info scratched or stamped? Can any of the following numbers be found anywhere: 670 690 710 P71 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 Regarding the supposedly australian copy: What can be found in the run-out grooves? Is the info scratched or stamped? Can any of the following numbers be found anywhere: 670 690 710 P71 You're not about to give in so easily are you? I will check when I get home at the weekend and get back to you. What is the significance of those numbers in the run-out grooves? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) What is the significance of those numbers in the run-out grooves? They are codes for different european pressing plants. 710 is Norway or example. Edited June 24, 2010 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Regarding the supposedly australian copy: What can be found in the run-out grooves? Is the info scratched or stamped? Can any of the following numbers be found anywhere: 670 690 710 P71 Mine has 670 as part of a matrix stamp number A side AA 2025 069 1W1 670 B side AA 2025 069 2W1 670 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 They are codes for different european pressing plants. 710 is Norway or example. I thought as much. Nice one, I'll get right on it when I get home. Cheers Seb. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) Mine has 670 as part of a matrix stamp number A side AA 2025 069 1W1 670 B side AA 2025 069 2W1 670 670 is the code for a pressing plant in Holland / Netherlands. If the matrix info on your copy is machine stamped, then your 45 is definitely pressed in Holland. I've got another 45 right in front of me which reads "Made in Holland" on the label and its a-side matrix number is: AA 6059 206 1W1 670 Edited June 24, 2010 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rbman Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 It is Australian.....or pressed for the Aussie market anyway. The Copyright Contol box with the Treble Clef in it on the righthand side of the discs is a state of South Australia mark (was then anyway). You can see the S and the A on either side of the clef. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Not the best scans in the world... but here are two Holland 45s which both have got the "copyright control" logo on their labels: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 More of the same: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 More of the same: Sebastian, Do you own these records as vinyl too? Or, do you collect label scans and these are part of your collection? I notice you're always very helpful and forthcoming when it comes to information like this and you very often support your facts with scans. Collecting scans of labels is nearly as attractive as collecting the vinyl but has it's obvious shortcomings. Do you have everything collated for easy access? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 It is Australian.....or pressed for the Aussie market anyway. The Copyright Contol box with the Treble Clef in it on the righthand side of the discs is a state of South Australia mark (was then anyway). You can see the S and the A on either side of the clef. Could the S and the A stand for South Africa instead? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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