Soulboy - The Movie. You've Seen It So . .

[macca]

The way I look at it is that there are critics of the film (before and after they've seen it/read drafts, scripts etc) who feel that it 's just another exploitative turd in a long line of exploitative turds going back to the mid 70s. These people feel overtly passionate about 'this scene' and will nail their colours to the mast and condemn it, often in eloquent terms. Fair play indeed. Then there are others who will see themselves mirrored in the plot and get a kick from hearing the sounds, the nudge-nudge wink-wink references, and be temporarily transported to the 'Eden' they so fondly remember, irrespective of whether the film is 'good' or 'bad' in cinematic terms. Fair play to them too. Then there are people like Dave Moore who has given his opinion, an opinion probably shared by a significant number of people on this site, amongst whom I include myself, and which can be summed up in one word - indifference. Fair play again I say. So I'll watch it out of curiosity, like I watched This England, TSWONS etc, but it's not going put me on any kind of war footing, after all, it'll be off most people's radars within a few months and northern/rare soul life, and time, will march on.

Better get stocking up Pete!

Edited July 8, 2010 by macca

[julia123]

Over the years, this 'underground scene' has withstood all that's tried to dilute it. TV pundits, Egocentric Media thirsty DJs, Divvies who dance in clothing 40 years old, youngsters who think dancin' on Duffy videos is gaining them 'street cred', Cassette tapes, CDs, MP3s, Ipods, returnees who instantly become promoters, people who reinvent their personal history, bootleg DJs, the soul police, the vinyl police, the fashion police, the DS, the influx of barbs, the Mod revival, Coronation Street, naff advert and after naff advert on TV, a million new 'record dealers', price guides, carvers, theatrical plays, film extras, yuppie type record collectors, etc etc and none of it has affected me. I still do what I've done for 35 years. I buy records and dance to 'em. Can't see this film making any impression whatsoever on my lifestyle or enjoyment of what I do. It's a peripheral, a distraction for some but irrelevant to me. I'll probably get the DVD off Pete Smith in a year for a fiver and watch it when I've a spare 90 mins but that'll be it. It won't change my life, it won't stir up feelings of protectionism that it does in some. It's a film....like "Finding Nemo" was. That's it.

Regards,

Dave

And so say all of us....

Julia xxx

[Paulb]

The way I look at it is that there are critics of the film (before and after they've seen it/read drafts, scripts etc) who feel that it 's just another exploitative turd in a long line of exploitative turds going back to the mid 70s. These people feel overtly passionate about 'this scene' and will nail their colours to the mast and condemn it, often in eloquent terms. Fair play indeed. Then there are others who will see themselves mirrored in the plot and get a kick from hearing the sounds, the nudge-nudge wink-wink references, and be temporarily transported to the 'Eden' they so fondly remember, irrespective of whether the film is 'good' or 'bad' in cinematic terms. Fair play to them too. Then there are people like Dave Moore who has given his opinion, an opinion probably shared by a significant number of people on this site, amongst whom I include myself, and which can be summed up in one word - indifference. Fair play again I say. So I'll watch it out of curiosity, like I watched This England, TSWONS etc, but it's not going put me on any kind of war footing, after all, it'll be off most people's radars within a few months and northern/rare soul life, and time, will march on.

Better get stocking up Pete!

Very good post and just about sums it up really.

[Chalky]

I can't believe all this fuss over a bloody film, and that is what it is, a film, made to entertain. Dave's post spot on. I'll watch the thing and if I find it entertaining great, if not I'll have wasted an hour and half of my life, can think of worse things to waste it on!

[Chalky]

and just how many topics do we need about Soulboy the movie?

[Dave Moore]

I've had a few PM's so I just need to qualify part of my post:

I don't care at all what people wear. In fact I quite like the spunky way that some of the 'retro luvvers' stand their ground. (Debbie's like a retro Rottwieler!) And I do struggle with the concept of people who wear clothes 50 years old (imitation mod clothing), thinking people who wear clothes 40 years old, (baggies and vests etc), are divvies. It's certainly not for me to me to criticise ANYONE for anything they do. I was simply pointing out that all the events of the last 35 years that the doom and gloom merchants would have us believe is the end of the soul scene as we know ,actually haven't affected my enjoyment of soul music and I doubt anything in the next 35 years will either. (Although I would dearly love to see the return to the likes of Andy Rix et al DJing).

By the same token: If people want to grab their 15 minutes of fame and a few quid on the back of a scene that has given me a lifetime of pleasure that's their perogative. It's certainly not my place to criticise them for it and if that came accross it wasn't meant to. I do what I do, I don't expect people to criticise me for having less than a passing interest in the latest 'hip' venue, the latest young 'family influenced' DJ or the latest chart bound teenage soul soundalike. By the same token I wouldn't expect the majority of this forum to enjoy dissecting the vocal inflections of Billy Stewart (which is what I spent the afternoon doing!). LOL!

So...it's a film. No more no less. Some will get their knickers in a twist because the colour of the Casino roof wasn't accurate and some, (like me), will treat it as soul irrelevancy #175467B. Shortly to be filed with the earlier gubbins that we've seen over the past (insert how long you've been 'at it!').

It's not really important. (No matter what Simon (Imberboy) thinks (LOL!) to the majority. Neither is the Duffy Connection, the Amy Whinehouse brigade, or the Kings Go Forth debacle of buying 45s with a view to ripping folks off in a year's time. See, the thing is...we've seen/heard it all before and most of us are still here! We may be the silent majority but we're still here. Still buying kosher 45s, still searching for that vinyl bargain in MINT - condition, still enjoying each others company and still celebrating the Sound Of Young America and all it's derivatives. The rest is just peripherals.

Whatever it brings and wherever your soul journey takes you........get your head out your arse and ENJOY it!

Please .......no more PM's unless it's a good sales list with lots of Detroit Demos on it at a third of the going rate! LOL!

Regards,

Dave

[Steve G]

I can't believe all this fuss over a bloody film, and that is what it is, a film, made to entertain. Dave's post spot on. I'll watch the thing and if I find it entertaining great, if not I'll have wasted an hour and half of my life, can think of worse things to waste it on!

Exactly

[Guest Beeks]

I'm with Paul B on this..the film is absolute Tosh from the bill

Hold it up against Shane Meadows films made on shoestrings and to be able to give it anything more than a 4 deserves some sort of charge brought against you in a court of law for crimes against taste..

[macca]

tastes are like colours, there's lot of them. who gives feck anyway?

[Guest proudlove]

tastes are like colours, there's lot of them. who gives feck anyway?

Opinions are like arseholes........................................everybody has one..................................

[Guest Beeks]

Even Kevin Bacon and Patrick Swayze would have been embarrassed by that dance scene..

[Guest Beeks]

Also the main bad guy looks like a cross between Clint Boon..Mo Molam and a really sh*te Anton Chigurh...friendo

[macca]

Opinions are like arseholes........................................everybody has one..................................

Never a truer word good sir...

[boba]

i just rated this a 10 because i enjoy how much drama on here it caused

[Mark S]

Over the years, this 'underground scene' has withstood all that's tried to dilute it. TV pundits, Egocentric Media thirsty DJs, Divvies who dance in clothing 40 years old, youngsters who think dancin' on Duffy videos is gaining them 'street cred', Cassette tapes, CDs, MP3s, Ipods, returnees who instantly become promoters, people who reinvent their personal history, bootleg DJs, the soul police, the vinyl police, the fashion police, the DS, the influx of barbs, the Mod revival, Coronation Street, naff advert and after naff advert on TV, a million new 'record dealers', price guides, carvers, theatrical plays, film extras, yuppie type record collectors, etc etc and none of it has affected me. I still do what I've done for 35 years. I buy records and dance to 'em. Can't see this film making any impression whatsoever on my lifestyle or enjoyment of what I do. It's a peripheral, a distraction for some but irrelevant to me. I'll probably get the DVD off Pete Smith in a year for a fiver and watch it when I've a spare 90 mins but that'll be it. It won't change my life, it won't stir up feelings of protectionism that it does in some. It's a film....like "Finding Nemo" was. That's it.

Regards,

Dave

Did they find Nemo ?

[Guest proudlove]

Did they find Nemo ?

Yes ...............he was living in Hattersley.....................on disability benefits.................having served time in Heaton Park lake for downloading child frog spawnary.

[jocko]

And now we go to St David Moore, newly canonised for his role as all round good guy and shepherd of those with no opinions, and his new BBC5 show Film 2011, replacing Jonathon Ross who has gone to a channel who allows opinions.

Presenter "Hi Dave, welcome aboard, now we have 11 films for review this week, is there any particular one you want to single out"

St David Moore " Nah, they are all just films"

Presenter "Oh, okay, lets start with the new Coppola film, what do you have to say on this?"

St David Moore " Its just a film"

Presenter "What about the central theme of human canonisation and the central allegory of living people becoming Sainted against being knighted on earth and the heavenly/earth battle, and the central metaphor of the Queen being like Satan,"

St David Moore "Never got any of that pretentious opinionated pish, perpetuated by wannabees and never-will-bes, none of whom are in my gang, its just a film"

Presenter "Oh okay, well which ones would you recommend to go and see then"

St David Moore "All of them, they are just films and we immortals are going to live forever and therefore lets just watch anything put in front of us, they are just films"

Presenter "Well maybe we could recommend, the viewers to some film forums, allow them to get some idea of what they might prefer to see first"

St David Moore " You don't want to do that, these debating forums are full of people giving opinions on things and eh..... debating, they should be barred, in fact I am on to that right now using my contacts in the Ministry of Offense"

Presenter "One thing can I ask, one of the films is about Northern soul and I believe you are interested in Northern Soul"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare followed by through gritted teeth " It's just a film"

Presenter "Don't you think its reasonable that people who are interested in Northern Soul might want to discuss a film about something they are very interested in"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare while sharpening SaS issue bayonet followed by through gritted and grinding teeth "its just a film"

Presenter sweating profusely now "Okay do you want to speak about your interest in NS"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare while fixing SaS issue bayonet to AK47 "No, if you speak about it you can't really be into it, rule no 1."

Presenter now cowering behind sofa "Maybe be should just chat about you then"

St David Moore now relaxing and lighting cigar with his flame thrower "Okay, I started off as assistant to personal bodyguard for Queen of Sheba......... "

Screen goes blank as loud snoring of cameraman heard and the sound of the director slamming his head off the wall muttering "its just a show, its just a f***ing show"

[Alan Walls]

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Opinions are like arseholes........................................everybody has one..................................

...and here's me hoping that you were going to say "Opinions are like a*seh*les - there are plenty of both on here!":lol:

[Modernsoulsucks]

OR.

BARRY SUBNORMAL: "Welcome to Film Review where we will be discussing the new "Soulboy" movie. With me I have three experts in the field, each with their own unique perspective on those heady days in the mid-70's at the Wigan Casino. First, I'd like to ask Jocko McKermode for his memories of the time and how faithfully he feels the film reflects that period

JMcK: Well, it's a farce. As we say up here a Ben McTraversty, Jimmy.

BS: It's Barry actually. So you feel it fails to capture the "je ne sais quoi" of that era?

JMcK: Yes I do. Im pretty certain from what I've been told that no French people were regular attendees at the Casino although I couldn't swear to it as I didn't start going until 1979, Jimmy...

BS: Barry! I didn't realise that. So your appraisal of the movie is not based on immediate involvement at the time in the Northern Soul scene?

JMcK: I'd prefer not to use that term as I feel it's very limiting and tends to exclude a lot of music that sounds nothing like Northern Soul, Jimmy

BS: Please call me Barry. It's short for Barry. So your critique is based on exactly what?

JMcK: I have an MDMA in soulful house and funky edge rare soul as long as Winstanley didn't play it at any time in the past. It's an MDMAISHAFERSALAWDPIAATITP. I'd give you my card but as you can imagine printing costs are extortionate so I've only had the one done, Jimmy

BS: It's fucking Barry but thank you anyway. Moving on to my next guest, Paul...

P: Did I tell you I wrote a play. On my own. It's mine.

BS: Yes I think you may have mentioned it once or twice.

P: It was brill. This film is not brill. People who saw my play were brill. People who see this film are not brill.

BS: In what way is this film not as you say "brill"

P: Im brill so without my brill it's not brill

BS: Would both not appeal to the same audience?

P: No, mine appealed to a brill audience. This appeals to a non-brill audience.

BS: Thank you Paul. And finally let's get the view from a member of today's youth. Paul?

P: My play is brill!

BS: Im sorry, I was referring to the other Paul, one of today's young promoters and dj's

P#2: His play is brill. 11/10 from me

BS: Well Paul you can't really give 11/10 can you as it just makes a mockery out of the voting system.

P#2: Yes I can. I can do what I want. I gave my dad 2/10 for making me tidy my room.

BS: So what score did you give this movie.

P#2: I gave it 1/10 and then gave myself 10/10 for awarding it such low marks plus Paul gave me 12/10 for that, which I think means Im in with a chance in the final.

BS: Well I think we'll leave it....

P#2: Im giving you 3/10 for a shit interview!

BS: Join me next...

P#2: Cameraman is dogshit. 1/10!!

BS: ... week, when we examine the career of Leni Riefenstahl and discover why even she drew the line at filming Russ Winstanley relaxing at home.

Edited July 9, 2010 by modernsoulsucks

[Mark Bicknell]

OR.

BARRY SUBNORMAL: "Welcome to Film Review where we will be discussing the new "Soulboy" movie. With me I have three experts in the field, each with their own unique perspective on those heady days in the mid-70's at the Wigan Casino. First, I'd like to ask Jocko McKermode for his memories of the time and how faithfully he feels the film reflects that period

JMcK: Well, it's a farce. As we say up here a Ben McTraversty, Jimmy.

BS: It's Barry actually. So you feel it fails to capture the "je ne sais quoi" of that era?

JMcK: Yes I do. Im pretty certain from what I've been told that no French people were regular attendees at the Casino although I couldn't swear to it as I didn't start going until 1979, Jimmy...

BS: Barry! I didn't realise that. So your appraisal of the movie is not based on immediate involvement at the time in the Northern Soul scene?

JMcK: I'd prefer not to use that term as I feel it's very limiting and tends to exclude a lot of music that sounds nothing like Northern Soul, Jimmy

BS: Please call me Barry. It's short for Barry. So your critique is based on exactly what?

JMcK: I have an MDMA in soulful house and funky edge rare soul as long as Winstanley didn't play it at any time in the past. It's an MDMAISHAFERSALAWDPIAATITP. I'd give you my card but as you can imagine printing costs are extortionate so I've only had the one done, Jimmy

BS: It's fucking Barry but thank you anyway. Moving on to my next guest, Paul...

P: Did I tell you I wrote a play. On my own. It's mine.

BS: Yes I think you may have mentioned it once or twice.

P: It was brill. This film is not brill. People who saw my play were brill. People who see this film are not brill.

BS: In what way is this film not as you say "brill"

P: Im brill so without my brill it's not brill

BS: Would both not appeal to the same audience?

P: No, mine appealed to a brill audience. This appeals to a non-brill audience.

BS: Thank you Paul. And finally let's get the view from a member of today's youth. Paul?

P: My play is brill!

BS: Im sorry, I was referring to the other Paul, one of today's young promoters and dj's

P#2: His play is brill. 11/10 from me

BS: Well Paul you can't really give 11/10 can you as it just makes a mockery out of the voting system.

P#2: Yes I can. I can do what I want. I gave my dad 2/10 for making me tidy my room.

BS: So what score did you give this movie.

P#2: I gave it 1/10 and then gave myself 10/10 for awarding it such low marks plus Paul gave me 12/10 for that, which I think means Im in with a chance in the final.

BS: Well I think we'll leave it....

P#2: Im giving you 3/10 for a shit interview!

BS: Join me next...

P#2: Cameraman is dogshit. 1/10!!

BS: ... week, when we examine the career of Leni Riefenstahl and discover why even she drew the line at filming Russ Winstanley relaxing at home.

Bloody brill Rod lol

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[Pete S]

OR.

BARRY SUBNORMAL: "Welcome to Film Review where we will be discussing the new "Soulboy" movie. With me I have three experts in the field, each with their own unique perspective on those heady days in the mid-70's at the Wigan Casino. First, I'd like to ask Jocko McKermode for his memories of the time and how faithfully he feels the film reflects that period

JMcK: Well, it's a farce. As we say up here a Ben McTraversty, Jimmy.

BS: It's Barry actually. So you feel it fails to capture the "je ne sais quoi" of that era?

JMcK: Yes I do. Im pretty certain from what I've been told that no French people were regular attendees at the Casino although I couldn't swear to it as I didn't start going until 1979, Jimmy...

BS: Barry! I didn't realise that. So your appraisal of the movie is not based on immediate involvement at the time in the Northern Soul scene?

JMcK: I'd prefer not to use that term as I feel it's very limiting and tends to exclude a lot of music that sounds nothing like Northern Soul, Jimmy

BS: Please call me Barry. It's short for Barry. So your critique is based on exactly what?

JMcK: I have an MDMA in soulful house and funky edge rare soul as long as Winstanley didn't play it at any time in the past. It's an MDMAISHAFERSALAWDPIAATITP. I'd give you my card but as you can imagine printing costs are extortionate so I've only had the one done, Jimmy

BS: It's fucking Barry but thank you anyway. Moving on to my next guest, Paul...

P: Did I tell you I wrote a play. On my own. It's mine.

BS: Yes I think you may have mentioned it once or twice.

P: It was brill. This film is not brill. People who saw my play were brill. People who see this film are not brill.

BS: In what way is this film not as you say "brill"

P: Im brill so without my brill it's not brill

BS: Would both not appeal to the same audience?

P: No, mine appealed to a brill audience. This appeals to a non-brill audience.

BS: Thank you Paul. And finally let's get the view from a member of today's youth. Paul?

P: My play is brill!

BS: Im sorry, I was referring to the other Paul, one of today's young promoters and dj's

P#2: His play is brill. 11/10 from me

BS: Well Paul you can't really give 11/10 can you as it just makes a mockery out of the voting system.

P#2: Yes I can. I can do what I want. I gave my dad 2/10 for making me tidy my room.

BS: So what score did you give this movie.

P#2: I gave it 1/10 and then gave myself 10/10 for awarding it such low marks plus Paul gave me 12/10 for that, which I think means Im in with a chance in the final.

BS: Well I think we'll leave it....

P#2: Im giving you 3/10 for a shit interview!

BS: Join me next...

P#2: Cameraman is dogshit. 1/10!!

BS: ... week, when we examine the career of Leni Riefenstahl and discover why even she drew the line at filming Russ Winstanley relaxing at home.

That truly was hilarious Rod, made my afternoon

[Guest proudlove]

That truly was hilarious Rod, made my afternoon

Ditto mate superb,............................esp the Leni Relfenstahl reference.

Steve.

[jocko]

Very funny Rodney, I'll give you that, but the idea is an obvious bootleg and therefore can't be taken seriously, this is an OIO site as you can surely tell from lots of the postings.

You will obviously lose your subscription to the London guardian for using blatantly racist names,

Please delete thims immediately and apologise profusely.,

[Modernsoulsucks]

Jocko,

I know Im in trouble when my mum calls me Rodney.

Thank you for taking it in the spirit it was intended.

ROD

[Davetay]

Jocko,

I know Im in trouble when my mum calls me Rodney.

Thank you for taking it in the spirit it was intended.

ROD

It was very funny.

Very well done, Sir Rodney of the Shard.

[Ted Massey]

vwery good rod but expect a visit from someone else

[Guest]

I look forward to watching this making me able to make my own opinion

[BrianB]

OR.

BARRY SUBNORMAL: "Welcome to Film Review where we will be discussing the new "Soulboy" movie. With me I have three experts in the field, each with their own unique perspective on those heady days in the mid-70's at the Wigan Casino. First, I'd like to ask Jocko McKermode for his memories of the time and how faithfully he feels the film reflects that period

JMcK: Well, it's a farce. As we say up here a Ben McTraversty, Jimmy.

BS: It's Barry actually. So you feel it fails to capture the "je ne sais quoi" of that era?

JMcK: Yes I do. Im pretty certain from what I've been told that no French people were regular attendees at the Casino although I couldn't swear to it as I didn't start going until 1979, Jimmy...

BS: Barry! I didn't realise that. So your appraisal of the movie is not based on immediate involvement at the time in the Northern Soul scene?

JMcK: I'd prefer not to use that term as I feel it's very limiting and tends to exclude a lot of music that sounds nothing like Northern Soul, Jimmy

BS: Please call me Barry. It's short for Barry. So your critique is based on exactly what?

JMcK: I have an MDMA in soulful house and funky edge rare soul as long as Winstanley didn't play it at any time in the past. It's an MDMAISHAFERSALAWDPIAATITP. I'd give you my card but as you can imagine printing costs are extortionate so I've only had the one done, Jimmy

BS: It's fucking Barry but thank you anyway. Moving on to my next guest, Paul...

P: Did I tell you I wrote a play. On my own. It's mine.

BS: Yes I think you may have mentioned it once or twice.

P: It was brill. This film is not brill. People who saw my play were brill. People who see this film are not brill.

BS: In what way is this film not as you say "brill"

P: Im brill so without my brill it's not brill

BS: Would both not appeal to the same audience?

P: No, mine appealed to a brill audience. This appeals to a non-brill audience.

BS: Thank you Paul. And finally let's get the view from a member of today's youth. Paul?

P: My play is brill!

BS: Im sorry, I was referring to the other Paul, one of today's young promoters and dj's

P#2: His play is brill. 11/10 from me

BS: Well Paul you can't really give 11/10 can you as it just makes a mockery out of the voting system.

P#2: Yes I can. I can do what I want. I gave my dad 2/10 for making me tidy my room.

BS: So what score did you give this movie.

P#2: I gave it 1/10 and then gave myself 10/10 for awarding it such low marks plus Paul gave me 12/10 for that, which I think means Im in with a chance in the final.

BS: Well I think we'll leave it....

P#2: Im giving you 3/10 for a shit interview!

BS: Join me next...

P#2: Cameraman is dogshit. 1/10!!

BS: ... week, when we examine the career of Leni Riefenstahl and discover why even she drew the line at filming Russ Winstanley relaxing at home.

Rod.... Brilliant.

Paul , come on Son, beat that?

Dave, great post.

All...funniest thread I have read for a long time on here. (Please read "Newcastle Gunman" on Clarets Mad! Laugh out loud funny!).).

ATB

Brian B

[Philly]

And now we go to St David Moore, newly canonised for his role as all round good guy and shepherd of those with no opinions, and his new BBC5 show Film 2011, replacing Jonathon Ross who has gone to a channel who allows opinions.

Presenter "Hi Dave, welcome aboard, now we have 11 films for review this week, is there any particular one you want to single out"

St David Moore " Nah, they are all just films"

Presenter "Oh, okay, lets start with the new Coppola film, what do you have to say on this?"

St David Moore " Its just a film"

Presenter "What about the central theme of human canonisation and the central allegory of living people becoming Sainted against being knighted on earth and the heavenly/earth battle, and the central metaphor of the Queen being like Satan,"

St David Moore "Never got any of that pretentious opinionated pish, perpetuated by wannabees and never-will-bes, none of whom are in my gang, its just a film"

Presenter "Oh okay, well which ones would you recommend to go and see then"

St David Moore "All of them, they are just films and we immortals are going to live forever and therefore lets just watch anything put in front of us, they are just films"

Presenter "Well maybe we could recommend, the viewers to some film forums, allow them to get some idea of what they might prefer to see first"

St David Moore " You don't want to do that, these debating forums are full of people giving opinions on things and eh..... debating, they should be barred, in fact I am on to that right now using my contacts in the Ministry of Offense"

Presenter "One thing can I ask, one of the films is about Northern soul and I believe you are interested in Northern Soul"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare followed by through gritted teeth " It's just a film"

Presenter "Don't you think its reasonable that people who are interested in Northern Soul might want to discuss a film about something they are very interested in"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare while sharpening SaS issue bayonet followed by through gritted and grinding teeth "its just a film"

Presenter sweating profusely now "Okay do you want to speak about your interest in NS"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare while fixing SaS issue bayonet to AK47 "No, if you speak about it you can't really be into it, rule no 1."

Presenter now cowering behind sofa "Maybe be should just chat about you then"

St David Moore now relaxing and lighting cigar with his flame thrower "Okay, I started off as assistant to personal bodyguard for Queen of Sheba......... "

Screen goes blank as loud snoring of cameraman heard and the sound of the director slamming his head off the wall muttering "its just a show, its just a f***ing show"

That was the best interview Barry ever did.... brilliant, not laughed so much in ages... who needs TV, Cinema or DVDs when all the entertainment on here is much, much better:lol:

[Dave Moore]

And now we go to St David Moore, newly canonised for his role as all round good guy and shepherd of those with no opinions, and his new BBC5 show Film 2011, replacing Jonathon Ross who has gone to a channel who allows opinions.

Presenter "Hi Dave, welcome aboard, now we have 11 films for review this week, is there any particular one you want to single out"

St David Moore " Nah, they are all just films"

Presenter "Oh, okay, lets start with the new Coppola film, what do you have to say on this?"

St David Moore " Its just a film"

Presenter "What about the central theme of human canonisation and the central allegory of living people becoming Sainted against being knighted on earth and the heavenly/earth battle, and the central metaphor of the Queen being like Satan,"

St David Moore "Never got any of that pretentious opinionated pish, perpetuated by wannabees and never-will-bes, none of whom are in my gang, its just a film"

Presenter "Oh okay, well which ones would you recommend to go and see then"

St David Moore "All of them, they are just films and we immortals are going to live forever and therefore lets just watch anything put in front of us, they are just films"

Presenter "Well maybe we could recommend, the viewers to some film forums, allow them to get some idea of what they might prefer to see first"

St David Moore " You don't want to do that, these debating forums are full of people giving opinions on things and eh..... debating, they should be barred, in fact I am on to that right now using my contacts in the Ministry of Offense"

Presenter "One thing can I ask, one of the films is about Northern soul and I believe you are interested in Northern Soul"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare followed by through gritted teeth " It's just a film"

Presenter "Don't you think its reasonable that people who are interested in Northern Soul might want to discuss a film about something they are very interested in"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare while sharpening SaS issue bayonet followed by through gritted and grinding teeth "its just a film"

Presenter sweating profusely now "Okay do you want to speak about your interest in NS"

St David Moore 5 minute Silence with stony stare while fixing SaS issue bayonet to AK47 "No, if you speak about it you can't really be into it, rule no 1."

Presenter now cowering behind sofa "Maybe be should just chat about you then"

St David Moore now relaxing and lighting cigar with his flame thrower "Okay, I started off as assistant to personal bodyguard for Queen of Sheba......... "

Screen goes blank as loud snoring of cameraman heard and the sound of the director slamming his head off the wall muttering "its just a show, its just a f***ing show"

Bravo Jocko,

Been called lots of things over the years but sainted ain't been one of them!

Regards,

Dave

[Julie Moore]

Absolutley hysterical hav`nt laughed this much in ages I love it on here and now got a big brother who` s a Saint gets better and better

Regards

Julie

[Chalky]

OR.

BARRY SUBNORMAL: "Welcome to Film Review where we will be discussing the new "Soulboy" movie. With me I have three experts in the field, each with their own unique perspective on those heady days in the mid-70's at the Wigan Casino. First, I'd like to ask Jocko McKermode for his memories of the time and how faithfully he feels the film reflects that period

JMcK: Well, it's a farce. As we say up here a Ben McTraversty, Jimmy.

BS: It's Barry actually. So you feel it fails to capture the "je ne sais quoi" of that era?

Brilliant Rod

[Guest]

OR.

BARRY SUBNORMAL: "Welcome to Film Review where we will be discussing the new "Soulboy" movie. With me I have three experts in the field, each with their own unique perspective on those heady days in the mid-70's at the Wigan Casino. First, I'd like to ask Jocko McKermode for his memories of the time and how faithfully he feels the film reflects that period

JMcK: Well, it's a farce. As we say up here a Ben McTraversty, Jimmy.

BS: It's Barry actually. So you feel it fails to capture the "je ne sais quoi" of that era?

JMcK: Yes I do. Im pretty certain from what I've been told that no French people were regular attendees at the Casino although I couldn't swear to it as I didn't start going until 1979, Jimmy...

BS: Barry! I didn't realise that. So your appraisal of the movie is not based on immediate involvement at the time in the Northern Soul scene?

JMcK: I'd prefer not to use that term as I feel it's very limiting and tends to exclude a lot of music that sounds nothing like Northern Soul, Jimmy

BS: Please call me Barry. It's short for Barry. So your critique is based on exactly what?

JMcK: I have an MDMA in soulful house and funky edge rare soul as long as Winstanley didn't play it at any time in the past. It's an MDMAISHAFERSALAWDPIAATITP. I'd give you my card but as you can imagine printing costs are extortionate so I've only had the one done, Jimmy

BS: It's fucking Barry but thank you anyway. Moving on to my next guest, Paul...

P: Did I tell you I wrote a play. On my own. It's mine.

BS: Yes I think you may have mentioned it once or twice.

P: It was brill. This film is not brill. People who saw my play were brill. People who see this film are not brill.

BS: In what way is this film not as you say "brill"

P: Im brill so without my brill it's not brill

BS: Would both not appeal to the same audience?

P: No, mine appealed to a brill audience. This appeals to a non-brill audience.

BS: Thank you Paul. And finally let's get the view from a member of today's youth. Paul?

P: My play is brill!

BS: Im sorry, I was referring to the other Paul, one of today's young promoters and dj's

P#2: His play is brill. 11/10 from me

BS: Well Paul you can't really give 11/10 can you as it just makes a mockery out of the voting system.

P#2: Yes I can. I can do what I want. I gave my dad 2/10 for making me tidy my room.

BS: So what score did you give this movie.

P#2: I gave it 1/10 and then gave myself 10/10 for awarding it such low marks plus Paul gave me 12/10 for that, which I think means Im in with a chance in the final.

BS: Well I think we'll leave it....

P#2: Im giving you 3/10 for a shit interview!

BS: Join me next...

P#2: Cameraman is dogshit. 1/10!!

BS: ... week, when we examine the career of Leni Riefenstahl and discover why even she drew the line at filming Russ Winstanley relaxing at home.

hahahahahahahahahahhahahhaaaaa..... BRILL! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Paulb]

OR.

BARRY SUBNORMAL: "Welcome to Film Review where we will be discussing the new "Soulboy" movie. With me I have three experts in the field, each with their own unique perspective on those heady days in the mid-70's at the Wigan Casino. First, I'd like to ask Jocko McKermode for his memories of the time and how faithfully he feels the film reflects that period

JMcK: Well, it's a farce. As we say up here a Ben McTraversty, Jimmy.

BS: It's Barry actually. So you feel it fails to capture the "je ne sais quoi" of that era?

JMcK: Yes I do. Im pretty certain from what I've been told that no French people were regular attendees at the Casino although I couldn't swear to it as I didn't start going until 1979, Jimmy...

BS: Barry! I didn't realise that. So your appraisal of the movie is not based on immediate involvement at the time in the Northern Soul scene?

JMcK: I'd prefer not to use that term as I feel it's very limiting and tends to exclude a lot of music that sounds nothing like Northern Soul, Jimmy

BS: Please call me Barry. It's short for Barry. So your critique is based on exactly what?

JMcK: I have an MDMA in soulful house and funky edge rare soul as long as Winstanley didn't play it at any time in the past. It's an MDMAISHAFERSALAWDPIAATITP. I'd give you my card but as you can imagine printing costs are extortionate so I've only had the one done, Jimmy

BS: It's fucking Barry but thank you anyway. Moving on to my next guest, Paul...

P: Did I tell you I wrote a play. On my own. It's mine.

BS: Yes I think you may have mentioned it once or twice.

P: It was brill. This film is not brill. People who saw my play were brill. People who see this film are not brill.

BS: In what way is this film not as you say "brill"

P: Im brill so without my brill it's not brill

BS: Would both not appeal to the same audience?

P: No, mine appealed to a brill audience. This appeals to a non-brill audience.

BS: Thank you Paul. And finally let's get the view from a member of today's youth. Paul?

P: My play is brill!

BS: Im sorry, I was referring to the other Paul, one of today's young promoters and dj's

P#2: His play is brill. 11/10 from me

BS: Well Paul you can't really give 11/10 can you as it just makes a mockery out of the voting system.

P#2: Yes I can. I can do what I want. I gave my dad 2/10 for making me tidy my room.

BS: So what score did you give this movie.

P#2: I gave it 1/10 and then gave myself 10/10 for awarding it such low marks plus Paul gave me 12/10 for that, which I think means Im in with a chance in the final.

BS: Well I think we'll leave it....

P#2: Im giving you 3/10 for a shit interview!

BS: Join me next...

P#2: Cameraman is dogshit. 1/10!!

BS: ... week, when we examine the career of Leni Riefenstahl and discover why even she drew the line at filming Russ Winstanley relaxing at home.

Very amusing Rod

[ImberBoy]

Dave if the correct default is one of indifference with the mantra "It is un important and only a film", then why are their 88 replies to this thread with nearly 4,000 views so far?

Important, funny old word that because my family and friends are important and my career and my health.

But there are also many people; you are one of them, who have either directly or indirectly affected me in one way or another. The effects are small but lasting and things that are "unimportant" and insignificant like retro clothing for some, records and venues for others, these all form tiny memories and experiences that help define who we are as individuals and help set our moral compass.

Saying that you don't care then being omnipresent on a Northernsoul forum is a paradox, I think you do care and I would bet Pete Smith left nut that you care passionately.

I know some are uber fans and some are even slightly manic but on the whole our passion for this music far supersedes any attitude that can dismiss a film about our scene as if it is a throw away movie such as "finding nemo"

If you can honestly say that a movie about Northernsoul matters as much as a children's Disney movie then I for one have miss read you for many years.

I am not "The Northernsoul Police' but "your fookin nicked sunshine":hatsoff2:

[Chris L]

Interest seems to have waned on this classic film pretty quickly. So ill catch it on dvd in a month or so, im sure it will be £3 well spent.

Hope so, guess it'll never leave the UK shores....................

[Souljer6]

Ditto mate superb,............................esp the Leni Relfenstahl reference.

Steve.

Steve,

I'm really surprised by a fairminded guy like you exhalting this kind of behaviour. This MSS guy is surely mocking these poor lads. It's not their fault they dont know what they're talking about and good on them that they talk about it with such authority. I didnt fight at Agincourt but if I was a filmaker it wouldnt stop me making a film about it.....and who could say I was wrong if I decided to put the French army into 2CVs?

As for poor maligned Russ and the Third Reich's propogandist----I dont get that one. Please explain it for me.

[Guest proudlove]

Steve,

I'm really surprised by a fairminded guy like you exhalting this kind of behaviour. This MSS guy is surely mocking these poor lads. It's not their fault they dont know what they're talking about and good on them that they talk about it with such authority. I didnt fight at Agincourt but if I was a filmaker it wouldnt stop me making a film about it.....and who could say I was wrong if I decided to put the French army into 2CVs?

As for poor maligned Russ and the Third Reich's propogandist----I dont get that one. Please explain it for me.

Rich.............you'd understand better with 5 pints of Peroni down your neck.......................................................

[Modernsoulsucks]

Steve,

I'm really surprised by a fairminded guy like you exhalting this kind of behaviour. This MSS guy is surely mocking these poor lads. It's not their fault they dont know what they're talking about and good on them that they talk about it with such authority. I didnt fight at Agincourt but if I was a filmaker it wouldnt stop me making a film about it.....and who could say I was wrong if I decided to put the French army into 2CVs?

As for poor maligned Russ and the Third Reich's propogandist----I dont get that one. Please explain it for me.

You wouldn't get a Leni the Lion reference.

[Guest martyn]

Steve,

I didnt fight at Agincourt but if I was a filmaker it wouldnt stop me making a film about it.....and who could say I was wrong if I decided to put the French army into 2CVs?

As an aquaintence of some of todays most clued up battlefield archeologists I know for a fact that they would say you were wrong .Bad research is bad research . However , on the other hand 'The Other Boleyn Girl ' starring Natelie Porter & Eric Banna was costume wise almost perfect . .As a film though it stunk .

Better research from the soulboy team would only have appeased us .The wider film going audience would still vote with their feet on entertainment value rather than historical content

Edited July 15, 2010 by martyn

[Modernsoulsucks]

As an aquaintence of some of todays most clued up battlefield archeologists I know for a fact that they would say you were wrong .Bad research is bad research . However , on the other hand 'The Other Boleyn Girl ' starring Natelie Porter & Eric Banna was costume wise almost perfect . .As a film though it stunk .

Better research from the soulboy team would only have appeased us .The wider film going audience would still vote with their feet on entertainment value rather than historical content

As I know for a fact that souljer6 has an NVQ Level I in French History that he borrowed, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss his theory. He has shown me his extensive research he carried out whilst waiting for the kettle to boil last Tuesday evening and I think this is pretty conclusive if circumstantial evidence. From Shakespeare reporting the words of the English king on the very day.

And gentlemen in England now-a-bed

Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,

Now that unleaded is only 56 centimes per litre.

Edited July 15, 2010 by modernsoulsucks

[Paul-s]

Hope so, guess it'll never leave the UK shores....................

You tube maybe or someone might try to smuggle a dvd into a foreign country. BUT, i know that most foreign destinations have strict quality control and high standards, so it will be tough on the IPSO smugglers. You could get 10 years in prison for this tosh in some of the more soulful destinations! Guess the execs can hide it in the baggy trousers that they bought for the premiere..

[JOHNNYBETCHA]

Steve,

I didnt fight at Agincourt but if I was a filmaker it wouldnt stop me making a film about it.....and who could say I was wrong if I decided to put the French army into 2CVs?

As for poor maligned Russ and the Third Reich's propogandist----I dont get that one. Please explain it for me.

So tell us about this Agincourt place then. Was it a Northern Soul club way back? Was there always lots of trouble there? Did you have to leave your bows and arrows at the door?

[Guest martyn]

As I know for a fact that souljer6 has an NVQ Level I in French History that he borrowed, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss his theory. He has shown me his extensive research he carried out whilst waiting for the kettle to boil last Tuesday evening and I think this is pretty conclusive if circumstantial evidence. From Shakespeare reporting the words of the English king on the very day.

And gentlemen in England now-a-bed

Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,

Now that unleaded is only 56 centimes per litre.

Think you may be right , just discovered Shakespears first draft

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;

Or close the wall up with our English dead.

In peace there's nothing so becomes a man

As modest stillness and humility:

But when the blast of war blows in our ears,

Then imitate the action of the tiger;

Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,

Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;

Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;

A 2CV with a fluffy dice & nodding dog

Edited July 15, 2010 by martyn

[Guest enchantedrythm]

  As I know for a fact that souljer6 has an NVQ Level I in French History that he borrowed, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss his theory. He has shown me his extensive research he carried out whilst waiting for the kettle to boil last Tuesday evening and I think this is pretty conclusive if circumstantial evidence. From Shakespeare reporting the words of the English king on the very day.

And gentlemen in England now-a-bed

    Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,

Now that unleaded is only 56 centimes per litre.

excellent!

[Mark Bicknell]

You'll still all go and see it so change the record ffs.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[Souljer6]

Just returned from the beaches of Dunkirk.......

Amazed to see this "poll" has attracted 100 responses......and SOULBOY- THE MOVIE has not yet been released!

Presumably no one including me has seen it then. I must therefore assume that marking is to be based on ones imaginations, just as it seems SOULBOY- THE MOVIE is based on the imaginations of the non-Wigan attending filmakers, although, in fairness they have taken direction from Russ "Mr Wigan Himself" Winstanley, so at least we can be assured that true soulboy credentials are properly in place.

The marking----well I dont know. I'm inclined towards conservatism so I think I may go for a middle of the road "5". Or, taking a leaf out of Cathy McGowan's book "Oil give it foif" (5). ( Perhaps with a few more exciting reviews I might tip it to a "6").

[Mike]

Just returned from the beaches of Dunkirk.......

Amazed to see this "poll" has attracted 100 responses......and SOULBOY- THE MOVIE has not yet been released!

Presumably no one including me has seen it then. I must therefore assume that marking is to be based on ones imaginations, just as it seems SOULBOY- THE MOVIE is based on the imaginations of the non-Wigan attending filmakers, although, in fairness they have taken direction from Russ "Mr Wigan Himself" Winstanley, so at least we can be assured that true soulboy credentials are properly in place.

The marking----well I dont know. I'm inclined towards conservatism so I think I may go for a middle of the road "5". Or, taking a leaf out of Cathy McGowan's book "Oil give it foif" (5). ( Perhaps with a few more exciting reviews I might tip it to a "6").

think you saying 100 just shows what a strong imagination can do to you

says 17 have voted here

plus guy has done it so all votes can be read, so dont think its time to call in the un election monitoring team yet

[Ian Parker]

is it due out on DVD/other media soon?